NSG Senate Lobby (OLD THREAD, DO NOT POST)

[Great Nepal]

There's still debate over the system.

I personally back an elected King/Queen to reign over the nation as Head of State, with a Prime Minister as the Head of Government.

How about King/Queen who is elected by parliament to reign over nation. Any member of senate is able to call vote of no confidence (with 51% support) and vote will be held. If no confidence motion gets 2/3rd vote king/queen will be fired and election for new one will be held which will also require 2/3rd majority.

[Gordano and Lysandus]

An abdication could be forced by the Senate, yes, that could work.

[Geilinor]

There's still debate over the system.

I personally back an elected King/Queen to reign over the nation as Head of State, with a Prime Minister as the Head of Government.

How about King/Queen who is elected by parliament to reign over nation. Any member of senate is able to call vote of no confidence (with 51% support) and vote will be held. If no confidence motion gets 2/3rd vote king/queen will be fired and election for new one will be held which will also require 2/3rd majority.

Isn't that essentially a prime minister?

[Camelza]

An abdication could be forced by the Senate, yes, that could work.

So, practically speaking, the "king" will be just an indirectly elected consul/president with a crown and as such the "kingdom" will effectively be a republic?

[Gordano and Lysandus]

Unless he abdicates, either at the behest of the Senate or from his own choice, his rule is indefinite.

[Great Nepal]

How about King/Queen who is elected by parliament to reign over nation. Any member of senate is able to call vote of no confidence (with 51% support) and vote will be held. If no confidence motion gets 2/3rd vote king/queen will be fired and election for new one will be held which will also require 2/3rd majority.

Isn't that essentially a prime minister?

But with cache that there is coronation ceremony and fancy palaces and crown and royal weddings...

[Gordano and Lysandus]

All things that bring in scores of tourists and restore a socio-cultural grandeur to the state that cannot exist in a republic.

[Finium]

An abdication could be forced by the Senate, yes, that could work.

So, practically speaking, the "king" will be just an indirectly elected consul/president with a crown and as such the "kingdom" will effectively be a republic?

If you are familiar with it, the senate could act more like the Witan of early England. We would have the power to select the king/queen, but in practice we would maintain a degree of fidelity to a family tree of sorts.

[Gordano and Lysandus]

The purpose here is to create a stable government. Under an elected monarch, we have someone present to keep this Senate in check in case we overstep our bounds and avoid us falling into extremism.

[The American Commune]

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[Camelza]

All things that bring in scores of tourists and restore a socio-cultural grandeur to the state that cannot exist in a republic.

It's win-win and I will support it, but, as for what you said about the socio-cultural grandeur, there is a certain republic that begs to differ.

...also: Venice.

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[Gordano and Lysandus]

Where I think the real debate exists is the extent of power granted to the monarch.

[Great Nepal]

All things that bring in scores of tourists and restore a socio-cultural grandeur to the state that cannot exist in a republic.

It's win-win and I will support it, but, as for what you said about the socio-cultural grandeur, there is a certain republic that begs to differ.

...also: Venice.

Roman republic is plain compared to Roman Empire.

[Mollary]

Where I think the real debate exists is the extent of power granted to the monarch.

I would argue none.

[Gordano and Lysandus]

I would argue that the monarch needs to be able to keep the Senate in check - I think they should be the ultimate authority when it comes to declaring war and I think he/she should have the right to dismiss the head of government if needs be.

[Silent Majority]

We shouldn't even have a monarch.

[Camelza]

It's win-win and I will support it, but, as for what you said about the socio-cultural grandeur, there is a certain republic that begs to differ.

...also: Venice.

Roman republic is plain compared to Roman Empire.

Rome gained nearly 90% of its territories as a Republic, the beggining of the Imperial era was the beggining of a flamboyant downfall.

[Geilinor]

If it's a constitutional monarch with a ceremonial role, I honestly don't care if we have one or not.

[Great Nepal]

Rome gained nearly 90% of its territories as a Republic, the beggining of the Imperial era was the beggining of a flamboyant downfall.

It gained most of territory as Republic but under Empire, it went on to control most of Europe including British Isles, Egypt and North Africa. Plus, politics was more entertaining.

[Camelza]

Rome gained nearly 90% of its territories as a Republic, the beggining of the Imperial era was the beggining of a flamboyant downfall.

It gained most of territory as Republic but under Empire, it went on to control most of Europe including British Isles, Egypt and North Africa. Plus, politics was more entertaining.

If by entertaining you mean murderous, sure!

[Great Nepal]

It gained most of territory as Republic but under Empire, it went on to control most of Europe including British Isles, Egypt and North Africa. Plus, politics was more entertaining.

If by entertaining you mean murderous, sure!

Thats what I meant, yes. Which is more fun to watch? Two guys shouting at each other or people planning to assassinate their enemies and failing horribly because they have been double crossed and then they get executed however, the executor is working with him so instead Caesar is one that ends up dead...

[Gordano and Lysandus]

I think we also need a Speaker to keep order!

[Oneracon]

We shouldn't even have a monarch.

Why not?

There are plenty of highly developed RL countries that are monarchies.

[Othelos]

If it's a constitutional monarch with a ceremonial role, I honestly don't care if we have one or not.

Same.