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Cill Airne
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Postby Cill Airne » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:31 pm

Zottistan wrote:
Cill Airne wrote:Don't go there? No, I will. Because I know Orthodox Rabbis who will argue against you saying it is not an ethnicity, it is a religion. If Jewish was an ethnicity, Jews would share a common DNA and would share alleles - genotype and phenotype. And that is not the case, is it? Furthermore, there are converts to Judaism, and their children are Jewish. If it was an ethnicity, they wouldn't be Jewish.

There are ethnic Jews and religious Jews. I think you know that.

No, there isn't. There are Jews, religious and non-religious. It is not an ethnic group - and Orthodox Jews will tell you that. The claim it is an ethnicity comes from a mistaken view of "being Jewish is passed from the mother".
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Postby Rocopurr » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:31 pm

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Postby Slembana » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:31 pm

GrandKirche wrote:
Slembana wrote:Nope, I don't. I don't have any political enemies either.


Sweetie, what do you do for fun then?

Go on the Internet, write, draw, read, and stuff.
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Postby Bralia » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:31 pm

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:D :hug: :kiss:
people just trust me... I'm weird that way...

Not weird at all. :)
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Postby Luveria » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:32 pm

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Bralia wrote:What, you don't have a dungeon? :eyebrow:. Where do you keep your political enemies?

I can't afford keeping every Communist in one dungeon.
And I can't afford a dungeon, either.

Why would you keep commies alive? :? Just execute them like I do.

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Postby Horusland » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:32 pm

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Sweetie, what do you do for fun then?

Go on the Internet, write, draw, read, and stuff.

Listen to music?

P.S. We just lost the entire Eurovision.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:32 pm

Cill Airne wrote:
Zottistan wrote:There are ethnic Jews and religious Jews. I think you know that.

No, there isn't. There are Jews, religious and non-religious. It is not an ethnic group - and Orthodox Jews will tell you that. The claim it is an ethnicity comes from a mistaken view of "being Jewish is passed from the mother".

Oh FFS, stop this nonsense.
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Postby Athartha » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:32 pm

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:roll:

Wasn't talking about that, but you've been like all over him today like a Rottweiler...
Unless I missed something the last time you talked to him.

I've never had a discussion with him before, ever.
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Postby Stattr » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:32 pm

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Stattr wrote: :D :hug: :kiss:
people just trust me... I'm weird that way...

Not weird at all. :)

Yes weird because no one IRl trusts me... It hurts... Especially relationship wise... :(
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Postby Slembana » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:32 pm

HorusLand wrote:
Slembana wrote:Go on the Internet, write, draw, read, and stuff.

Listen to music?

P.S. We just lost the entire Eurovision.

Yup. I also like to listen to music.
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Postby GrandKirche » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:32 pm

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GrandKirche wrote:
Sweetie, what do you do for fun then?

Go on the Internet, write, draw, read, and stuff.


Go on the internet and not end up with BDSM?

I'm not sure I understand how that works...
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Postby The Truth and Light » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:33 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Cill Airne wrote:Don't go there? No, I will. Because I know Orthodox Rabbis who will argue against you saying it is not an ethnicity, it is a religion. If Jewish was an ethnicity, Jews would share a common DNA and would share alleles - genotype and phenotype. And that is not the case, is it? Furthermore, there are converts to Judaism, and their children are Jewish. If it was an ethnicity, they wouldn't be Jewish.

While I think this discussion is stupid, I don't think Orthodox Rabbis are the place to go concerning scientific matters with ethnicity.

Oh, but honey, this is Cill you're talking to here. Religion is his specialty. And me? Oh well, I'm just some peasant who claims to be a Jew because of centuries of heritage passed down over the generations in his family. So what do I know, let him explain to me why I'm not a Jew after all.
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Postby Luveria » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:33 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Cill Airne wrote:No, there isn't. There are Jews, religious and non-religious. It is not an ethnic group - and Orthodox Jews will tell you that. The claim it is an ethnicity comes from a mistaken view of "being Jewish is passed from the mother".

Oh FFS, stop this nonsense.


Why is there christianity in my TET? :evil:

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Postby Zottistan » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:34 pm

Cill Airne wrote:
Zottistan wrote:There are ethnic Jews and religious Jews. I think you know that.

No, there isn't. There are Jews, religious and non-religious. It is not an ethnic group - and Orthodox Jews will tell you that. The claim it is an ethnicity comes from a mistaken view of "being Jewish is passed from the mother".

Orthodox Jews are wrong, then. There is a Jewish ethnicity, which stems from the ancient Hebrews. There is also a Jewish religion, which is completely irrelevant to the Jewish ethnicity.
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Postby Cill Airne » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:34 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Cill Airne wrote:No, there isn't. There are Jews, religious and non-religious. It is not an ethnic group - and Orthodox Jews will tell you that. The claim it is an ethnicity comes from a mistaken view of "being Jewish is passed from the mother".

Oh FFS, stop this nonsense.

No, I will not. Because these ethnicities are things like sephardim and Ashkenazim not Jewish. If he says he is Ashkenazim that is one thing, Jewish is another thing. Jewish ≠ Sephardim and Ashkenazim.
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Postby Slembana » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:34 pm

Luveria wrote:


Why is there christianity in my TET? :evil:

Your TET?

You don't own TET. :p

No-one owns it.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:35 pm

Cill Airne wrote:

No, I will not. Because these ethnicities are things like sephardim and Ashkenazim not Jewish. If he says he is Ashkenazim that is one thing, Jewish is another thing. Jewish ≠ Sephardim and Ashkenazim.

I am Ashkenazi, and until you came along that was always a JEWISH ETHNICITY, so pass me that weed it smells great.
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Postby Horusland » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:35 pm

Luveria wrote:
HorusLand wrote:I can't afford keeping every Communist in one dungeon.
And I can't afford a dungeon, either.

Why would you keep commies alive? :? Just execute them like I do.

I can't kill. Every time something bad happens around me, I feel bad for it. Any wound around me gives me that same feeling, except that it's worse.
Only exception: when my nose is bleeding (at least once per week).
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Postby Luveria » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:36 pm

Slembana wrote:
Luveria wrote:
Why is there christianity in my TET? :evil:

Your TET?

You don't own TET. :p

No-one owns it.


I own TET just as much as you do.

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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:36 pm

Athartha wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
:roll:

Wasn't talking about that, but you've been like all over him today like a Rottweiler...
Unless I missed something the last time you talked to him.

I've never had a discussion with him before, ever.


Then that's just whack, to say the least.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:36 pm

Cill Airne wrote:

No, I will not. Because these ethnicities are things like sephardim and Ashkenazim not Jewish. If he says he is Ashkenazim that is one thing, Jewish is another thing. Jewish ≠ Sephardim and Ashkenazim.

Jews are often identified as belonging to one of two major groups: the Ashkenazim, or "Germanics" (Ashkenaz meaning "Germany" in Medieval Hebrew, denoting their Central European base), and the Sephardim, or "Hispanics" (Sefarad meaning "Spain/Hispania" or "Iberia" in Hebrew, denoting their Spanish, and Portuguese, base). The Mizrahim, or "Easterners" (Mizrach being "East" in Hebrew), that is, the diverse collection of Middle Eastern and North African Jews, constitute a third major group, although they are sometimes termed Sephardi for liturgical reasons.[51]


Groups existing within an ethnicity doesn't mean the ethnicity doesn't exist.
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Postby Slembana » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:36 pm

Luveria wrote:
Slembana wrote:Your TET?

You don't own TET. :p

No-one owns it.


I own TET just as much as you do.


Okay.

I guess it's a people's thing.
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Postby Bralia » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:36 pm

Stattr wrote:
Bralia wrote:Not weird at all. :)

Yes weird because no one IRl trusts me... It hurts... Especially relationship wise... :(

Huh. I think I'm the opposite IRL, I don't trust others . . . it results in a similar pain as yours, I'm guessing . . .
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Postby Cill Airne » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:38 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
Cill Airne wrote:No, I will not. Because these ethnicities are things like sephardim and Ashkenazim not Jewish. If he says he is Ashkenazim that is one thing, Jewish is another thing. Jewish ≠ Sephardim and Ashkenazim.

I am Ashkenazi, and until you came along that was always a JEWISH ETHNICITY, so pass me that weed it smells great.

Yes, it bloody is. Most Ashkenazim and Sephardim are Jews, but not necessarily. But guess what "JEWISH" itself is not an ethnicity. That is the point I am getting at. Ashkenazim, Sephardim yes. Jewish, as in the word Jewish, is not. And I am sorry you disagree with me, but that is what I have been taught by Rabbis, and that is what I am going to stick with. If you have a problem with that, please take it up with a Rabbi.
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Postby Luveria » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:38 pm

HorusLand wrote:
Luveria wrote:Why would you keep commies alive? :? Just execute them like I do.

I can't kill. Every time something bad happens around me, I feel bad for it. Any wound around me gives me that same feeling, except that it's worse.
Only exception: when my nose is bleeding (at least once per week).

Those commies would do the same to you if they had the chance. Show them no quarter.

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