Everything that has existed lingers in the Eternity...of NSG

[Gaveo]

New thread. Cool.

Greetings and goodnight folks.

Hello. Wait are you leaving?

[Manahakatouki]

The clock works fine, with God not needing to interfere, the reasoning goes, because he already set the plan in motion...

That's the reasoning I was always told anyway as well...

I'm a deist because I don't think there's any explanation for the origin of the universe that doesn't require us to invoke a timeless and immaterial being.

Now do you believe in an actual being of conscious decision, or do you, (like my one friend) believe that the deity is not a being, but should be recognized as one because of it's power...

[Roan Cara]

New thread. Cool.

Greetings and goodnight folks.

Hello. Wait are you leaving?

unfortunately, he SHOULD at any rate, so he isn't falling asleep on the way to work

[Gaveo]

Hello. Wait are you leaving?

unfortunately, he SHOULD at any rate, so he isn't falling asleep on the way to work

OOOOOOOOOOH Okay. I don't have school for a whole week so...

[Typhlochactas]

I'm a deist because I don't think there's any explanation for the origin of the universe that doesn't require us to invoke a timeless and immaterial being.

Now do you believe in an actual being of conscious decision, or do you, (like my one friend) believe that the deity is not a being, but should be recognized as one because of it's power...

I don't have any claims to knowledge about the traits that this deity has outside of it being extremely powerful, timeless, and immaterial.

[Manahakatouki]

Now do you believe in an actual being of conscious decision, or do you, (like my one friend) believe that the deity is not a being, but should be recognized as one because of it's power...

I don't have any claims to knowledge about the traits that this deity has outside of it being extremely powerful, timeless, and immaterial.

I see nothing wrong with this belief to be honest, and I can easily see where it comes from...

I just have daddy issues with the idea of a god in any form, but I probably would come to this conclusion to, if I thought about it more...

[Typhlochactas]

I don't have any claims to knowledge about the traits that this deity has outside of it being extremely powerful, timeless, and immaterial.

I see nothing wrong with this belief to be honest, and I can easily see where it comes from...

I just have daddy issues with the idea of a god in any form, but I probably would come to this conclusion to, if I thought about it more...

I don't accept miracles or other supernatural parapsychology. I hope for happiness in the next life, but I do not know if it exists.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Now do you believe in an actual being of conscious decision, or do you, (like my one friend) believe that the deity is not a being, but should be recognized as one because of it's power...

I don't have any claims to knowledge about the traits that this deity has outside of it being extremely powerful, timeless, and immaterial.

Those are pretty grand claims of knowledge.

[Typhlochactas]

I don't have any claims to knowledge about the traits that this deity has outside of it being extremely powerful, timeless, and immaterial.

Those are pretty grand claims of knowledge.

I didn't claim that they were modest either.

[Luziyca]

Ah... The used thread smell. Why does everyone make it used?

[Gaveo]

Ah... The used thread smell. Why does everyone make it used?

I don't know you tell me.

[Luziyca]

Ah... The used thread smell. Why does everyone make it used?

I don't know you tell me.

Note to self: Never buy anything from Nathi. It probably is either used by the time I get it, or fell off the back of a truck.

[Gaveo]

I don't know you tell me.

Note to self: Never buy anything from Nathi. It probably is either used by the time I get it, or fell off the back of a truck.

Or a white van...

[Tlaceceyaya]

Those are pretty grand claims of knowledge.

I didn't claim that they were modest either.

If you ever do anything with those extraordinary claims, remember this.

The weight of evidence for an extraordinary claim must be proportioned to its strangeness.

Also, I just read back through the chain of quotes, and there doesn't need to be an explanation just yet. Scientists are working on one. I remember reading something about matter and antimatter and something.

Chapter 40: In the Beginning, of Death By Black Hole and Other Cosmic Quandaries by Neil deGrasse Tyson. Gives a simple, non-technobabble explanation.

[Typhlochactas]

If you ever do anything with those extraordinary claims, remember this.

The weight of evidence for an extraordinary claim must be proportioned to its strangeness.

I don't think I ever stated that they were extraordinary either, but I don't like to play I said/you said, so I'll just run with it. Of course it's an entirely different thing if you want to argue that the traits I have given to god are extraordinary by implication.

Philosophically, it's not hard to prove that god has those traits. He has to be outside of matter and time to create matter and time, therefore immaterial. In order to create the universe ex nihilo, it must be incredibly powerful, if not omnipotent. If you want to talk about whether that deity exists, then that's different, but it's easy to attribute these traits to him.

That said, I'm very open to the idea that I'm completely wrong about this. I've only scratched the surface of cosmology and physics so far, and I could definitely be wrong. I want to note that I don't believe in the supernatural, and that I believe that evolution is as true as gravity.

Also, I just read back through the chain of quotes, and there doesn't need to be an explanation just yet. Scientists are working on one. I remember reading something about matter and antimatter and something.

Chapter 40: In the Beginning, of Death By Black Hole and Other Cosmic Quandaries by Neil deGrasse Tyson. Gives a simple, non-technobabble explanation.

I've read a lot of literature about the origins of the universe. I like Tyson, and I actually just watched one of his lectures on intelligent design that he gave when he was on a panel with Sam Harris and Laurence Krauss, among others.

[Auremena]

Mom won't let me because it's a cold medicine.
Because I was only partially awake from 6-14. Woke up for a bit then fell asleep. From 14 to now (about 22) I've been awake. Actually that's only 8 hours.

Oh still you must be exhausted.

Not at all. 8 hours is only usually half of the waking day. Normally I'm awake at least 16 hours a day.

[Gaveo]

Oh still you must be exhausted.

Not at all. 8 hours is only usually half of the waking day. Normally I'm awake at least 16 hours a day.

Jeez. I would probably fall asleep.

[Auremena]

Not at all. 8 hours is only usually half of the waking day. Normally I'm awake at least 16 hours a day.

Jeez. I would probably fall asleep.

16 hours is only 2/3 of a day.

[Menassa]

What to do?
What to say?
Shall you carry my treasure away?
What a gem.... what a pearl,
beyond rubies is our little girl.

[Gaveo]

Jeez. I would probably fall asleep.

16 hours is only 2/3 of a day.

True but lately I have been have trouble stay awake.

[Typhlochactas]

I read a little on Carl Jung and found myself immediately interested in him.

[Big Jim P]

Jeez. I would probably fall asleep.

16 hours is only 2/3 of a day.

I am usually awake 19 - 20 hours a day.

[Menassa]

16 hours is only 2/3 of a day.

I am usually awake 19 - 20 hours a day.

I'm usually awake from 6-12....... around half of the day..... and I can only function well on an 8 hour sleep...... which is why I'm always tired..... and I don't get Sundays off!

[Individuality-ness]

16 hours is only 2/3 of a day.

I am usually awake 19 - 20 hours a day.

Aren't you supposed to be asleep Satan?

[Big Jim P]

I am usually awake 19 - 20 hours a day.

Aren't you supposed to be asleep Satan?

Indeed I am.