The same stuff is still going on and I can't keep it up.
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by New England and The Maritimes » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:17 pm
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.

by New England and The Maritimes » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:21 pm
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.

by The Black Forrest » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:22 pm

by Katyuscha » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:23 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Pondering a question.
If vampires don't have reflections in mirrors, how do girl vampires put on makeup?

by Dyakovo » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:29 pm
Ende wrote:FoxTropica wrote:Isn't tax kinda like charging for a useful service though?
Let's say that Sam's Club says "Yeah, we'll provide useful services for you, but you have to pay us money for our services, even if you don't really use them or want our services, and if you don't pay for them, we can send men after you and make you pay eventually."
Then, Sam's Club would be a government.

by Ende » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:31 pm
Dyakovo wrote:Ende wrote:Let's say that Sam's Club says "Yeah, we'll provide useful services for you, but you have to pay us money for our services, even if you don't really use them or want our services, and if you don't pay for them, we can send men after you and make you pay eventually."
Then, Sam's Club would be a government.
Everyone uses government services.

by Grenartia » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:34 pm

by Dyakovo » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:37 pm

by Ende » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:42 pm

by Katyuscha » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:56 pm
Ende wrote:Dyakovo wrote:Do you want a police department, fire department, food not from your own garden?
In other words, yes everybody wants them whether they'll admit it or not.
Also, yes everybody has to pay for them.
I don't necessarily want a police department. All they do for me is give traffic tickets. Fire departments are useful, but I could live without them. The government isn't responsible for food outside my own garden - that would be trade.
I suppose that I do like the military as well as education, so, of course, I want those services and would be fine with paying taxes, but does everybody truly want them?
Of course, you'd have to be an idiot not to want them, but in the rare case of somebody not wanting them, would it be morally right to take their money and provide the services?

by Typhlochactas » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:18 pm

by Forster Keys » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:34 pm

by New England and The Maritimes » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:35 pm
Forster Keys wrote:Why did I sniff that bottle of latex when I was drunk?
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.

by Forster Keys » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:36 pm

by Forster Keys » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:36 pm

by Gauntleted Fist » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:41 pm
Ende wrote:I don't necessarily want a police department. All they do for me is give traffic tickets.
Ende wrote: Fire departments are useful, but I could live without them.
Ende wrote:The government isn't responsible for food outside my own garden - that would be trade.
Ende wrote:I suppose that I do like the military as well as education, so, of course, I want those services and would be fine with paying taxes, but does everybody truly want them?
Of course, you'd have to be an idiot not to want them, but in the rare case of somebody not wanting them, would it be morally right to take their money and provide the services?

by New England and The Maritimes » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:42 pm
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.
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