The Eternal Thread: Diamonds, and this thread, are Forever

[Cill Airne]

Perhaps? Perhaps not?
Who knows? Generally realising who you are, what you like, and what you are is considered a good thing. Other people may not like it.

I disagree. I know what I like, what I dislike, and I am content with that. Why would I feel it necessary to find out who I am? How does it help me in the long run? Isn't it more likely that most people lie to themselves about who they are, really?

I don't think you understood. For most of my life I thought I knew what I liked and i'm starting to realise what it is I really like? How is it better to be someone different than yourself?

I took the Spanish, que, and wrote it as it'd be spelt in Irish.

So you asked 'what'.

That's surprising, as my statement was simple.

I actually didn't understand it.

[Ruridova]

Oh, and Cill! I once told you that there was an Irish word with the letter "N" pronounced as an R, but I couldn't remember what it was.
Here it is:
Luimneach/luimnigh, Irish for limerick or Limerick.

[Zarashti]

I disagree. I know what I like, what I dislike, and I am content with that. Why would I feel it necessary to find out who I am? How does it help me in the long run? Isn't it more likely that most people lie to themselves about who they are, really?

I don't think you understood. For most of my life I thought I knew what I liked and i'm starting to realise what it is I really like? How is it better to be someone different than yourself?

So you asked 'what'.

That's surprising, as my statement was simple.

I actually didn't understand it.

It is good to learn what you really are, and not be afraid to embrace it.

And I didn't understand the statement either.

[Cill Airne]

Oh, and Cill! I once told you that there was an Irish word with the letter "N" pronounced as an R, but I couldn't remember what it was.
Here it is:
Luimneach/luimnigh, Irish for limerick or Limerick.

the N isn't pronounced as an r here though? Luimneach --> ˈl̪imʲɨnʲəx (lim-in-ach; ch like loch or german bach)

[Mishmahig]

I disagree. I know what I like, what I dislike, and I am content with that. Why would I feel it necessary to find out who I am? How does it help me in the long run? Isn't it more likely that most people lie to themselves about who they are, really?

I don't think you understood. For most of my life I thought I knew what I liked and i'm starting to realise what it is I really like? How is it better to be someone different than yourself?

Conversely, why is it better to be yourself? I go with the flow and do whatever I feel like doing, or do whatever I need to do to get done whatever I want, and I apply that same view to my likes, dislikes, interests, activities, etc. Why not simply do that, rather than make it philosophical? If you like something that you didn't like before, or vice versa, then that's normal---interests and likes change over time. Go for it.

[Typhlochactas]

I actually didn't understand it.

''Don't care about what other people think.''
''If I listened to that, I would be caring about what you think.''

It's simple.

[Mishmahig]

I disagree. I know what I like, what I dislike, and I am content with that. Why would I feel it necessary to find out who I am? How does it help me in the long run? Isn't it more likely that most people lie to themselves about who they are, really?

It's a philosophical thing. The search for inner truth, and for yourself and who you really are. Some people like to stay with a comfortable non-changing image of themselves. Others go out on limbs to look for what they're hiding from themselves and the world.

I have a constantly changing image of myself, depending on what I'm doing or how I'm doing, but I don't feel the need to look for what I'm hiding. If I've hidden something from myself, then I realize that my subconscious has done a pretty good job for 17 years---why dig up stuff consciously that I've repressed subconsciously? Doesn't it simply make you feel worse in the long run?

[Cill Airne]

I don't think you understood. For most of my life I thought I knew what I liked and i'm starting to realise what it is I really like? How is it better to be someone different than yourself?

Conversely, why is it better to be yourself? I go with the flow and do whatever I feel like doing, or do whatever I need to do to get done whatever I want, and I apply that same view to my likes, dislikes, interests, activities, etc. Why not simply do that, rather than make it philosophical? If you like something that you didn't like before, or vice versa, then that's normal---interests and likes change over time. Go for it.

Why? Because instead of feeling like I am trying to be something, I actually feel free and more accepting of myself, because I am being myself and not what I wanted to be?

I actually didn't understand it.

''Don't care about what other people think.''
''If I listened to that, I would be caring about what you think.''

It's simple.

Actually, no. Because my statement was that I shouldn't care about other's opinions, not that others shouldn't, making your second statement confusing and pointless. Furthermore because I made the statement because I was letting other people shape my life, your statement again is pointless.

[Ruridova]

Oh, and Cill! I once told you that there was an Irish word with the letter "N" pronounced as an R, but I couldn't remember what it was.
Here it is:
Luimneach/luimnigh, Irish for limerick or Limerick.

the N isn't pronounced as an r here though? Luimneach --> ˈl̪imʲɨnʲəx (lim-in-ach; ch like loch or german bach)

It's an R in English...

Language is confusing and having the British come in and change all the spellings and pronunciations didn't help.

It's a philosophical thing. The search for inner truth, and for yourself and who you really are. Some people like to stay with a comfortable non-changing image of themselves. Others go out on limbs to look for what they're hiding from themselves and the world.

I have a constantly changing image of myself, depending on what I'm doing or how I'm doing, but I don't feel the need to look for what I'm hiding. If I've hidden something from myself, then I realize that my subconscious has done a pretty good job for 17 years---why dig up stuff consciously that I've repressed subconsciously? Doesn't it simply make you feel worse in the long run?

Maybe, but the idea is that knowing thyself will help you cure what makes you feel bad.

[Mesoland]

I've rekindled my love for music released several years/decades before my birth.

[Typhlochactas]

Actually, no. Because my statement was that I shouldn't care about other's opinions, not that others shouldn't, making your second statement confusing and pointless. Furthermore because I made the statement because I was letting other people shape my life, your statement again is pointless.

Your post was, verbatim, '' I need to stop caring about what others think.'' The contradiction in this is that you came to the thread just to talk about your life, and you're getting Ruridova's thoughts on it, and mine too in a way.

[Cill Airne]

the N isn't pronounced as an r here though? Luimneach --> ˈl̪imʲɨnʲəx (lim-in-ach; ch like loch or german bach)

It's an R in English...

Language is confusing and having the British come in and change all the spellings and pronunciations didn't help.

Oh, I actually don't know where the Anglicisation of Luimneach came from. It was originally anglicised Limnigh up until the past few hundred years.

[Mishmahig]

Conversely, why is it better to be yourself? I go with the flow and do whatever I feel like doing, or do whatever I need to do to get done whatever I want, and I apply that same view to my likes, dislikes, interests, activities, etc. Why not simply do that, rather than make it philosophical? If you like something that you didn't like before, or vice versa, then that's normal---interests and likes change over time. Go for it.

Why? Because instead of feeling like I am trying to be something, I actually feel free and more accepting of myself, because I am being myself and not what I wanted to be?

The two aren't mutually exclusive. You can be free and accepting of yourself, while also realizing that there are certain things you want to do and be. Accepting yourself doesn't mean settling for yourself as you are--it means you're basically saying 'this is who I am,' but it doesn't have to stay that way.

I have a constantly changing image of myself, depending on what I'm doing or how I'm doing, but I don't feel the need to look for what I'm hiding. If I've hidden something from myself, then I realize that my subconscious has done a pretty good job for 17 years---why dig up stuff consciously that I've repressed subconsciously? Doesn't it simply make you feel worse in the long run?

Maybe, but the idea is that knowing thyself will help you cure what makes you feel bad.

Ah, I don't see that at all, but I can accept that. I prefer to repress things that make me feel bad.

[Ruridova]

I've rekindled my love for music released several years/decades before my birth.

I tend to like music from the 1980s through the 2000s, although most of the music I listen to that's been made within the past 12 years wasn't exactly the really popular stuff.

[Mesoland]

I've rekindled my love for music released several years/decades before my birth.

I tend to like music from the 1980s through the 2000s, although most of the music I listen to that's been made within the past 12 years wasn't exactly the really popular stuff.

70s and 80s stuff is what I'm referring to.

[Cill Airne]

Actually, no. Because my statement was that I shouldn't care about other's opinions, not that others shouldn't, making your second statement confusing and pointless. Furthermore because I made the statement because I was letting other people shape my life, your statement again is pointless.

Your post was, verbatim, '' I need to stop caring about what others think.'' The contradiction in this is that you came to the thread just to talk about your life, and you're getting Ruridova's thoughts on it, and mine too in a way.

How am I getting Ruridova's thoughts on it? Because I am not. I clarified what I meant when it seemed Ruri was confused.

Secondly, you said that if you listened to that, you would be caring about what I think; which was a pointless statement as I never said anything about anyone else listening to me, nor was I giving out advice. I was talking about myself, not others. So I don't understand your argument at all?

Why? Because instead of feeling like I am trying to be something, I actually feel free and more accepting of myself, because I am being myself and not what I wanted to be?

The two aren't mutually exclusive. You can be free and accepting of yourself, while also realizing that there are certain things you want to do and be. Accepting yourself doesn't mean settling for yourself as you are--it means you're basically saying 'this is who I am,' but it doesn't have to stay that way.

Yes, and I understand that. But I don't think you understand the way I was before. Not a lot of people on here do. I ended up causing an eating disorder because I tried to hard to be something I wasn't. I'm starting to learn that it is better to just be myself and accept myself, because that makes me happier than me trying to be like the people I idolised. That's all I am saying.

[Ruridova]

I tend to like music from the 1980s through the 2000s, although most of the music I listen to that's been made within the past 12 years wasn't exactly the really popular stuff.

70s and 80s stuff is what I'm referring to.

I listen to a reasonable amount of that. I also suspect that I'm younger than you.

[Mesoland]

70s and 80s stuff is what I'm referring to.

I listen to a reasonable amount of that. I also suspect that I'm younger than you.

Doubt it.

[Ruridova]

I listen to a reasonable amount of that. I also suspect that I'm younger than you.

Doubt it.

What's your age(or a range in which your age is located)?

[Mesoland]

Doubt it.

What's your age(or a range in which your age is located)?

I'm under 16, let's just say that.

[Ruridova]

What's your age(or a range in which your age is located)?

I'm under 16, let's just say that.

I could say that without lying.

[Mesoland]

I'm under 16, let's just say that.

I could say that without lying.

Nice to see another under 16 in TET.

[Ruridova]

I could say that without lying.

Nice to see another under 16 in TET.

I could say the same as well, although the age of the NSers I know isn't usually something I think about when on NS.

[Typhlochactas]

How am I getting Ruridova's thoughts on it? Because I am not. I clarified what I meant when it seemed Ruri was confused.

This post is where he gives his thoughts, which is true if you corrected him or not.

Here, he gives his thoughts again.

And grandest of all, you're giving time to what I'm posting right now.

Secondly, you said that if you listened to that, you would be caring about what I think; which was a pointless statement as I never said anything about anyone else listening to me

Obviously caring about other people's thoughts is not something that just applies to you. I would be surprised if you actually said 'I shouldn't care about other people's thoughts, but everyone else should'.

nor was I giving out advice.

Who said you were?

[Ruridova]

How am I getting Ruridova's thoughts on it? Because I am not. I clarified what I meant when it seemed Ruri was confused.

This post is where he gives his thoughts, which is true if you corrected him or not.

Here, he gives his thoughts again.

And grandest of all, you're giving time to what I'm posting right now.

You and Cill have been arguing over whether or not I was confused and I haven't even known?