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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:05 pm

Danbershan wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:The problem is that usually, when people put the tribe before the individual, they end up dead, and they can't pass their genes on. I don't know whether this trait is genetic or not, but it would make sense.... >.>;

In prehistory, many humans lived in genetically-related groups, as many do even today. Their self-sacrificial genes might well survive in the relatives they died to protect, thus selecting for altruism.

This is true, and I have faith in this belief that altruism isn't fully selected out and that it's still available in the genes of the surviving relatives -- it's just that this type of altruism often led to death in prehistory.

Alexlantis wrote:Ah, true. Still, having a bunch of people who look out for themselves first leads to everybody dead, instead of just a few.

Well, I am in no position to judge that for sure, I would say it depends on the situation we're looking at. And like stated above, Danbershan is correct in that there will be some genes around in the relatives.
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:10 pm

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Postby Danbershan » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:12 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Danbershan wrote:In prehistory, many humans lived in genetically-related groups, as many do even today. Their self-sacrificial genes might well survive in the relatives they died to protect, thus selecting for altruism.

This is true, and I have faith in this belief that altruism isn't fully selected out and that it's still available in the genes of the surviving relatives -- it's just that this type of altruism often led to death in prehistory.


Well, people perform acts of altruism in real life, so they must come from somewhere :L

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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:14 pm

Grenartia wrote:Peace be with you all.

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Postby Germanic Templars » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:14 pm

Grenartia wrote:Peace be with you all.


And with your spirit.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:15 pm

Danbershan wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:This is true, and I have faith in this belief that altruism isn't fully selected out and that it's still available in the genes of the surviving relatives -- it's just that this type of altruism often led to death in prehistory.

Well, people perform acts of altruism in real life, so they must come from somewhere :L

True. I believe it's both genetics and environment that do this. But meh.
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Postby The Realm of God » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:16 pm

Grenartia wrote:Peace be with you all.


And also with you.
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Postby Danbershan » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:16 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Danbershan wrote:Well, people perform acts of altruism in real life, so they must come from somewhere :L

True. I believe it's both genetics and environment that do this. But meh.


Either way, its in human nature somewhere, surely?

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Postby Ruridova » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:19 pm

Grenartia wrote:Peace be with you all.

Hello Gren.
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"For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat; I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink; I was a stranger and you invited me in; I needed clothes and you clothed me; I was sick and you looked after me; I was in prison and you came to visit me... Truly, whatever you did for one of the least of my brothers and sisters, you did for me."
- the Gospel of Matthew, 25:35-40

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Postby The Corparation » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:21 pm

Imperium Immortalis wrote:
Ruridova wrote:Interesting flag.

Looks like a commie Dalek...
That is badass.

Its not commie. Its a British Ironside. A covert attempt by the British to build a secret weapon to defend against the blitz. The scientist that made them was a andriod created by the daleks in a plot to kill the doctor.
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Postby Immoren » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:22 pm

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:25 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
The Realm of God wrote:You have a third way, used by evangelists called (cheeseily) The Romans Road to Salvation.

That wouldn't be a "third way" that would be by faith alone.

Nowadays there's a fourth way - switching religions or leaving religion altogether.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:32 pm

Danbershan wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:True. I believe it's both genetics and environment that do this. But meh.

Either way, its in human nature somewhere, surely?

I don't know for sure.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:40 pm

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Postby Ruridova » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:41 pm

Dyakovo wrote:

That quote fits you amazingly well.
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"For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat; I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink; I was a stranger and you invited me in; I needed clothes and you clothed me; I was sick and you looked after me; I was in prison and you came to visit me... Truly, whatever you did for one of the least of my brothers and sisters, you did for me."
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:42 pm

That was a good ride with the family.
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:44 pm

Ruridova wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Peace be with you all.

Hello Gren.


Greetings.

The Realm of God wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Peace be with you all.


And also with you.


*gives a slight bow*

Dyakovo wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Peace be with you all.

Мир быть с Вами также, Грен.


Danke.

Germanic Templars wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Peace be with you all.


And with your spirit.


Thank you.

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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:47 pm

Ruridova wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:

That quote fits you amazingly well.

Yup. That's how I've lived my life for the past 20+ years...
Although to be completely accurate for me the quote should read "You either like me or you don't. It took me 19 years to learn how to love myself. I don't have that kind of time to convince someone else."
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:47 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:That was a good ride with the family.

You go to church this week?
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:50 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:That was a good ride with the family.

You go to church this week?


I did.

It was awesome too.

The teams that went on mission trips recently spoke about their experiences, there was a cookout after the service, and the 2 people that caused me headaches the other day on FB didn't even show up.
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Postby Menassa » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:51 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:You go to church this week?


I did.

It was awesome too.

The teams that went on mission trips recently spoke about their experiences, there was a cookout after the service, and the 2 people that caused me headaches the other day on FB didn't even show up.

You know how some people call it Jew-Church?

Well since the Jew's came first I call it: Christian-Synagogue :p
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:52 pm

Menassa wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
I did.

It was awesome too.

The teams that went on mission trips recently spoke about their experiences, there was a cookout after the service, and the 2 people that caused me headaches the other day on FB didn't even show up.

You know how some people call it Jew-Church?

Well since the Jew's came first I call it: Christian-Synagogue :p


:lol:
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:52 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:You go to church this week?


I did.

It was awesome too.

The teams that went on mission trips recently spoke about their experiences, there was a cookout after the service, and the 2 people that caused me headaches the other day on FB didn't even show up.

Good for you. I was hoping you would not let their ignorance and hate keep you away from something that is important to you.
Don't take life so serious... It isn't permanent...
Freedom from religion is an integral part of Freedom of religion
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Postby Menassa » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:53 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Menassa wrote:You know how some people call it Jew-Church?

Well since the Jew's came first I call it: Christian-Synagogue :p


:lol:

It works the same..... I hope you have a wonderful Christian Hanukkah!
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:54 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
I did.

It was awesome too.

The teams that went on mission trips recently spoke about their experiences, there was a cookout after the service, and the 2 people that caused me headaches the other day on FB didn't even show up.

Good for you. I was hoping you would not let their ignorance and hate keep you away from something that is important to you.


Thanks Dyakovo. :hug:

I woke up this morning, did my morning routine, looked at the clock, said "bring it on" and left for the day.
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