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Postby Forster Keys » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:55 pm

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Postby Seperates » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:55 pm

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Seperates wrote:I agree.

Though I put more emphasis on skepticism as a base for whether or not an law of idea is good rather than whether or not something is "conformist" or "individualist".
Because idolizing one and demonizing the other will get you nowhere. After all, unless you are a Sith, life is not made up of absolutes.

That's an absolute, thus you're a Sith

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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:57 pm

Seperates wrote:
Noobubersland wrote:That's an absolute, thus you're a Sith

May Yoda have mercy on my soul.

Mercy you got.

With that in mind, time to depart for the oblivion that is sleep nowadays. Good night.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:57 pm

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I guess you haven't checked online about people who have actually tried to put Schrodinger's Cat paradox to the test.

I have a video from YT in my sig that evidences this. The person went so far as to produce formulas. He discovered that it's a 50-50 chance. Half of the time, the cat will end up dead and half of the time it will stay alive.

Well...no shit?

That wasn't the point of the "experiment". The point was that any defined amount of energy has either a waveform or a particle form. However, we don't know which it is until we actually examine it, which was compared to (in an attempt to ridicule the theory, hilariously) putting a cat in a sealed and opeque box that would be release poisonous gas when a radioactive isotope randomly decayed.

Now then, because the chance of the radioactive isotope decaying IS 50/50 over a certain period of time (a.k.a there was nothing to prove), the cat can be seen as simoultaniously being in 2 forms, both dead and alive, much like the defined amount of energy exists within two forms, until it is examined, or the box is opened.

Actually performing the expiriment is absolutly ridiculous and a waste of time, money, and cats.


Schrodinger put it out there, people will try it.

Are you fixin' for a debate? Because I'm not in the mood to engage, since I was BSing just for the fun of it. o.O
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Postby Mushet » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:57 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Mushet wrote:I get the basic concept, not very into quantum physics, logic shit

I believe I recall you making a schrodinger's cat joke towards me


I'm on the same boat. I just find the memes about it rather funny.

Now that memes are getting to be used by people who don't even know what 4chan is we have to get in obscure ones to confound the non-internet geek populace :p
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Postby Auremena » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:57 pm

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:58 pm

Mushet wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I'm on the same boat. I just find the memes about it rather funny.

Now that memes are getting to be used by people who don't even know what 4chan is we have to get in obscure ones to confound the non-internet geek populace :p


Meh, Schrodinger's cat has been mentioned many times on NS. It's not like everyone's as ignorant as some of the posters you may encounter in other latrines of the net.
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Postby San Leggera » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:59 pm

7am and I'm no more tired than at 7pm... Regardless, I need sleep, so 'night, TET.
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Postby Noobubersland » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:00 pm

San Leggera wrote:7am and I'm no more tired than at 7pm... Regardless, I need sleep, so 'night, TET.

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Postby Auremena » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:01 pm

San Leggera wrote:7am and I'm no more tired than at 7pm... Regardless, I need sleep, so 'night, TET.
Don't you mean morning? 700 sounds like morning to me.
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The female Jim Morrison; not as talented, but just as attractive and self destructive. The one true heir to the throne of the Lizard King.
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Postby San Leggera » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:02 pm

Auremena wrote:
San Leggera wrote:7am and I'm no more tired than at 7pm... Regardless, I need sleep, so 'night, TET.
Don't you mean morning? 700 sounds like morning to me.

I'm on a backwards sleeping schedule.. currently waking up at 3pm.
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Postby Mushet » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:03 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Mushet wrote:Now that memes are getting to be used by people who don't even know what 4chan is we have to get in obscure ones to confound the non-internet geek populace :p


Meh, Schrodinger's cat has been mentioned many times on NS. It's not like everyone's as ignorant as some of the posters you may encounter in other latrines of the net.

We just cover it up better with mental wankery :p
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Postby Seperates » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:03 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Seperates wrote:Well...no shit?

That wasn't the point of the "experiment". The point was that any defined amount of energy has either a waveform or a particle form. However, we don't know which it is until we actually examine it, which was compared to (in an attempt to ridicule the theory, hilariously) putting a cat in a sealed and opeque box that would be release poisonous gas when a radioactive isotope randomly decayed.

Now then, because the chance of the radioactive isotope decaying IS 50/50 over a certain period of time (a.k.a there was nothing to prove), the cat can be seen as simoultaniously being in 2 forms, both dead and alive, much like the defined amount of energy exists within two forms, until it is examined, or the box is opened.

Actually performing the expiriment is absolutly ridiculous and a waste of time, money, and cats.


Schrodinger put it out there, people will try it.

Are you fixin' for a debate? Because I'm not in the mood to engage, since I was BSing just for the fun of it. o.O

Nope. Just setting you straight just in case you didn't actually know the concept. Because there are alot of people who actually think it was an expiriment.

And again, waste of time, money, and most importantly... cats.
This Debate is simply an exercise in Rhetoric. Truth is a fickle being with no intentions of showing itself today.

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Postby Seperates » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:04 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Seperates wrote:May Yoda have mercy on my soul.

Mercy you got.

With that in mind, time to depart for the oblivion that is sleep nowadays. Good night.

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Postby Auremena » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:04 pm

San Leggera wrote:
Auremena wrote:Don't you mean morning? 700 sounds like morning to me.

I'm on a backwards sleeping schedule.. currently waking up at 3pm.
Move to India or something. Go 8 hours ahead. I fit right in in Europe. Wish I could move back. I wake up like 11 or 12, can't sleep until 3 or 4usually.
NS's aviation and train sabelotodo.
Post-left anarchist and sad about it.
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Foot worshipper: Lutvikkia. Dakky's mom, I had her with Nana.
The female Jim Morrison; not as talented, but just as attractive and self destructive. The one true heir to the throne of the Lizard King.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:04 pm

Seperates wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Schrodinger put it out there, people will try it.

Are you fixin' for a debate? Because I'm not in the mood to engage, since I was BSing just for the fun of it. o.O

Nope. Just setting you straight just in case you didn't actually know the concept. Because there are alot of people who actually think it was an expiriment.

And again, waste of time, money, and most importantly... cats.


Then at ease, because I know the concept of the paradox. No need to get all flustered.

Mushet wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Meh, Schrodinger's cat has been mentioned many times on NS. It's not like everyone's as ignorant as some of the posters you may encounter in other latrines of the net.

We just cover it up better with mental wankery :p


Don't we always. :p
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Postby Seperates » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:05 pm

Auremena wrote:Tonight, tonight, tonihihihight!

What about tonight?
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:06 pm

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:07 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:I did it again.


Britney?
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Postby Seperates » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:07 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Seperates wrote:Nope. Just setting you straight just in case you didn't actually know the concept. Because there are alot of people who actually think it was an expiriment.

And again, waste of time, money, and most importantly... cats.


Then at ease, because I know the concept of the paradox. No need to get all flustered.

No problem.
Of course, when it was presented it was a paradox... but now it's still a part of basic Quantum Physics as the mindset you need to have when approaching packets of energy. So it's fairly ironic in that sense.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:08 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:I did it again.

Oops.
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Postby Noobubersland » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:08 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:I did it again.


Britney?

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Postby Noobubersland » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:08 pm

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New England and The Maritimes wrote:I did it again.

Oops.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:09 pm

Seperates wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Then at ease, because I know the concept of the paradox. No need to get all flustered.

No problem.
Of course, when it was presented it was a paradox... but now it's still a part of basic Quantum Physics as the mindset you need to have when approaching packets of energy.


Yes, as a thought experiment for the problem of the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics applied to everyday objects.
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