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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:35 pm

Seperates wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:So we shall. Everyone has this uniqueness to them, but many see this uniqueness as abnormal, and want to be more similar, but in this world, if you're too similar, you're lost. It is seen as normal to want independent thought, and paradoxically, to be like our neighbors and our friends and our coworkers.

That I've noticed. Being hipster is so hipster, it's become mainstream. :P It's ridiculous, really.

Which leads to me. I've had people call me hipster, though I myself don't want to be associated with that psuedo-individuality/clique behavior they tend to exhibit. Now, if I am a hipster, you could call me "an orginal" because I have been doing and wearing the same things for as long as I can remember.

However, I've come to a realization that truely "being hipster" isn't actually about "being the original" so much as it is going out of your way to try to become "an original". And that is how I differentiate myself. I am not a hipster because I don't go out of my way to do "orginal" things. I just do what I always have, because fuck cultural standards, I know what I like to wear and by God I'm going to wear it.

There's no point in going out of your way to be an "original". It's ridiculous and it's self-defeating, and to say the least, it's quite snobbish to like/dislike something just because x number of people heard about so-and-so first.

And I know this is ironic, given my username, but I think that my nation's motto sums it fine: "individuality rules... unless it's time to conform". Why? Because sometimes society, the world consciousness tells the truth, and while it is important to be yourself, sometimes you do need to conform (laws come up to mind). But I digress.
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Postby Seperates » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:36 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Mushet wrote:What kind of poster?


<-----

Look at flag.

But you can see it. It's obviously alive. ;)
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Postby Mushet » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:37 pm

Homosexy wrote:
Mushet wrote:Did you start turning green? :p

No, but if I could have I would have.
This fucking bitch. I swear. She hates me, and I hate her because she's a control freak and likes putting other people down and I don't deal with her shit. So she gets on me harder than anyone for the DUMBEST shit. Today it was that I stopped pulling in carts to get some water, and apparently that's all I do when I work ten times harder busting my ass than most of her other employees.
She gets on me about not saying hi to people when I'm walking through the aisles on an errand. Sorry that people are shopping and I shouldn't bother them. Not to mention I have PTSD up the ass and sometimes walking and thinking to myself or running errands keeps me pulled together when I'm at work. Ugh.
Fuck.
/rant

You seemed to keep a good handle on yourself if all you did was throw bread into someone's basket, did you yell at all?

Other lady could've been scared just by the sheer hate in your eyes. I actually froze a whole family with just a dirty look once, it was fun :D
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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:37 pm

Bralia wrote:Well, I think this half of my night is over. Farewell, TET! I will see some of you later, I imagine. Seeya'll!

Good night Bralia. :hug:
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Postby Homosexy » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:39 pm

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Homosexy wrote:No, but if I could have I would have.
This fucking bitch. I swear. She hates me, and I hate her because she's a control freak and likes putting other people down and I don't deal with her shit. So she gets on me harder than anyone for the DUMBEST shit. Today it was that I stopped pulling in carts to get some water, and apparently that's all I do when I work ten times harder busting my ass than most of her other employees.
She gets on me about not saying hi to people when I'm walking through the aisles on an errand. Sorry that people are shopping and I shouldn't bother them. Not to mention I have PTSD up the ass and sometimes walking and thinking to myself or running errands keeps me pulled together when I'm at work. Ugh.
Fuck.
/rant

You seemed to keep a good handle on yourself if all you did was throw bread into someone's basket, did you yell at all?

Other lady could've been scared just by the sheer hate in your eyes. I actually froze a whole family with just a dirty look once, it was fun :D

I ranted at her for a little bit in the middle of the store. Because she fucking deserves it. I told her "you wanna write me up for not working? I dare you. Do it. Because then they'll come down and do an investigation and see that I bust my ass and you sit around and pick on people all day!" and then I clocked out and went home.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:39 pm

Seperates wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
<-----

Look at flag.

But you can see it. It's obviously alive. ;)


Experiment, damn it. :p
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Postby Mushet » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:39 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Mushet wrote:What kind of poster?


<-----

Look at flag.

Quantum Physics + Neko Girl = ?

I respect it for the amount of nerdiness inherent in any combination of those concepts
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Gun control is, and always has been, a tool of white supremacy.

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Postby Seperates » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:39 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Seperates wrote:Which leads to me. I've had people call me hipster, though I myself don't want to be associated with that psuedo-individuality/clique behavior they tend to exhibit. Now, if I am a hipster, you could call me "an orginal" because I have been doing and wearing the same things for as long as I can remember.

However, I've come to a realization that truely "being hipster" isn't actually about "being the original" so much as it is going out of your way to try to become "an original". And that is how I differentiate myself. I am not a hipster because I don't go out of my way to do "orginal" things. I just do what I always have, because fuck cultural standards, I know what I like to wear and by God I'm going to wear it.

There's no point in going out of your way to be an "original". It's ridiculous and it's self-defeating, and to say the least, it's quite snobbish to like/dislike something just because x number of people heard about so-and-so first.

And I know this is ironic, given my username, but I think that my nation's motto sums it fine: "individuality rules... unless it's time to conform". Why? Because sometimes society, the world consciousness tells the truth, and while it is important to be yourself, sometimes you do need to conform (laws come up to mind). But I digress.

I agree.

Though I put more emphasis on skepticism as a base for whether or not an law of idea is good rather than whether or not something is "conformist" or "individualist".
Because idolizing one and demonizing the other will get you nowhere. After all, unless you are a Sith, life is not made up of absolutes.
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Postby Seperates » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:40 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Seperates wrote:But you can see it. It's obviously alive. ;)


Experiment, damn it. :p

It was a concept, not an actual expiriment. :p
This Debate is simply an exercise in Rhetoric. Truth is a fickle being with no intentions of showing itself today.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:43 pm

Seperates wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Experiment, damn it. :p

It was a concept, not an actual expiriment. :p


I guess you haven't checked online about people who have actually tried to put Schrodinger's Cat paradox to the test.

I have a video from YT in my sig that evidences this. The person went so far as to produce formulas. He discovered that it's a 50-50 chance. Half of the time, the cat will end up dead and half of the time it will stay alive.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:43 pm

Seperates wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:There's no point in going out of your way to be an "original". It's ridiculous and it's self-defeating, and to say the least, it's quite snobbish to like/dislike something just because x number of people heard about so-and-so first.

And I know this is ironic, given my username, but I think that my nation's motto sums it fine: "individuality rules... unless it's time to conform". Why? Because sometimes society, the world consciousness tells the truth, and while it is important to be yourself, sometimes you do need to conform (laws come up to mind). But I digress.

I agree.

Though I put more emphasis on skepticism as a base for whether or not an law of idea is good rather than whether or not something is "conformist" or "individualist".
Because idolizing one and demonizing the other will get you nowhere. After all, unless you are a Sith, life is not made up of absolutes.

Of course not, the world isn't black and white, it's shades of grey. It's really up to people to determine whether a law is just, but some laws (like don't kill people and don't rob people) are universally accepted by all.
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Postby Mushet » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:44 pm

Homosexy wrote:
Mushet wrote:You seemed to keep a good handle on yourself if all you did was throw bread into someone's basket, did you yell at all?

Other lady could've been scared just by the sheer hate in your eyes. I actually froze a whole family with just a dirty look once, it was fun :D

I ranted at her for a little bit in the middle of the store. Because she fucking deserves it. I told her "you wanna write me up for not working? I dare you. Do it. Because then they'll come down and do an investigation and see that I bust my ass and you sit around and pick on people all day!" and then I clocked out and went home.

That's what you do when you're angry? You either keep very good control of yourself or have a different definition of anger than I do :p
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Gun control is, and always has been, a tool of white supremacy.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:44 pm

Mushet wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
<-----

Look at flag.

Quantum Physics + Neko Girl = ?

I respect it for the amount of nerdiness inherent in any combination of those concepts


Some people get it. I got a TG not too long ago about it. The poster said he liked the joke, and wonder how many people in the forum would get it.
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Postby Homosexy » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:45 pm

Mushet wrote:
Homosexy wrote:I ranted at her for a little bit in the middle of the store. Because she fucking deserves it. I told her "you wanna write me up for not working? I dare you. Do it. Because then they'll come down and do an investigation and see that I bust my ass and you sit around and pick on people all day!" and then I clocked out and went home.

That's what you do when you're angry? You either keep very good control of yourself or have a different definition of anger than I do :p

I yell when I'm angry. And smoke like three cigarettes a minute. /exaggeration
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:45 pm

Forster Keys wrote:Hey guys.


Jawohl.
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Postby Mushet » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:47 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Mushet wrote:Quantum Physics + Neko Girl = ?

I respect it for the amount of nerdiness inherent in any combination of those concepts


Some people get it. I got a TG not too long ago about it. The poster said he liked the joke, and wonder how many people in the forum would get it.

I get the basic concept, not very into quantum physics, logic shit

I believe I recall you making a schrodinger's cat joke towards me
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Gun control is, and always has been, a tool of white supremacy.

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Postby Wazkyraque » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:47 pm

Forster Keys wrote:Hey guys.

Hi Fozza. :hug:
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Postby Noobubersland » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:48 pm

Seperates wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:There's no point in going out of your way to be an "original". It's ridiculous and it's self-defeating, and to say the least, it's quite snobbish to like/dislike something just because x number of people heard about so-and-so first.

And I know this is ironic, given my username, but I think that my nation's motto sums it fine: "individuality rules... unless it's time to conform". Why? Because sometimes society, the world consciousness tells the truth, and while it is important to be yourself, sometimes you do need to conform (laws come up to mind). But I digress.

I agree.

Though I put more emphasis on skepticism as a base for whether or not an law of idea is good rather than whether or not something is "conformist" or "individualist".
Because idolizing one and demonizing the other will get you nowhere. After all, unless you are a Sith, life is not made up of absolutes.

That's an absolute, thus you're a Sith
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:48 pm

Mushet wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Some people get it. I got a TG not too long ago about it. The poster said he liked the joke, and wonder how many people in the forum would get it.

I get the basic concept, not very into quantum physics, logic shit

I believe I recall you making a schrodinger's cat joke towards me


I'm on the same boat. I just find the memes about it rather funny.
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Postby Mushet » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:50 pm

Homosexy wrote:
Mushet wrote:That's what you do when you're angry? You either keep very good control of yourself or have a different definition of anger than I do :p

I yell when I'm angry. And smoke like three cigarettes a minute. /exaggeration

Were you yelling loud?

You smoke cigarettes and weed, most people I know do only one of the two, well they may dabble... you did mention you smoking pot before, a pot smoking hippie? :p
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Gun control is, and always has been, a tool of white supremacy.

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Postby Seperates » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:54 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Seperates wrote:It was a concept, not an actual expiriment. :p


I guess you haven't checked online about people who have actually tried to put Schrodinger's Cat paradox to the test.

I have a video from YT in my sig that evidences this. The person went so far as to produce formulas. He discovered that it's a 50-50 chance. Half of the time, the cat will end up dead and half of the time it will stay alive.

Well...no shit?

That wasn't the point of the "experiment". The point was that any defined amount of energy has either a waveform or a particle form. However, we don't know which it is until we actually examine it, which was compared to (in an attempt to ridicule the theory, hilariously) putting a cat in a sealed and opeque box that would be release poisonous gas when a radioactive isotope randomly decayed.

Now then, because the chance of the radioactive isotope decaying IS 50/50 over a certain period of time (a.k.a there was nothing to prove), the cat can be seen as simoultaniously being in 2 forms, both dead and alive, much like the defined amount of energy exists within two forms, until it is examined, or the box is opened.

Actually performing the expiriment is absolutly ridiculous and a waste of time, money, and cats.
This Debate is simply an exercise in Rhetoric. Truth is a fickle being with no intentions of showing itself today.

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Postby Forster Keys » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:55 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:Hey guys.


Jawohl.


At ease.
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San Leggera wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:Hey guys.

Hai.


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