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Postby Super Bwitain » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:50 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:2-0 against a bird :) At least we know what is winning again. But jeez, why don't we just make Feyenoord our national team :blink:


Who were you playing?
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:53 pm

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The Blaatschapen wrote:2-0 against a bird :) At least we know what is winning again. But jeez, why don't we just make Feyenoord our national team :blink:


Who were you playing?


Turkey. So, it is very good that we won this one.
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Postby Super Bwitain » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:55 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Super Bwitain wrote:
Who were you playing?


Turkey. So, it is very good that we won this one.


We got to play the mighty Moldova and only beat them 5-0.
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Postby Serrland » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:56 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Super Bwitain wrote:
Who were you playing?


Turkey. So, it is very good that we won this one.


Lots of squad changes too I hear?

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:49 pm

Serrland wrote:
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Turkey. So, it is very good that we won this one.


Lots of squad changes too I hear?


Yes, like I said, it's pretty much Feyenoord, but with decent group of strikers.
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Postby HC Eredivisie » Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:07 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:2-0 against a bird :) At least we know what is winning again. But jeez, why don't we just make Feyenoord our national team :blink:
Because they don't have decent strikers. I mildly approve of this new team, the chaos was fun to watch.
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Postby Nadkor » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:04 am

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I felt awful for Kazakhstan, I'm gutted for them...


heh, Ireland aren't minnows enough for you?


Ireland - 26th in the world.

Kazakhstan - 142nd in the world.
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Postby Slembana » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:06 am

As a Scotland fan, I'm not happy about us drawing 0-0 with Serbia today. My dad was at the match. But Serbia are much better than us...
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Postby Serrland » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:06 am

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heh, Ireland aren't minnows enough for you?


Ireland - 26th in the world.

Kazakhstan - 142nd in the world.


Let's be fair though FIFA rankings don't mean much.

I think we can agree that Ireland and Kazakhstan have about an identical chance of winning this upcoming World Cup.

None.

Even qualifying will be a big struggle for the both of them.

Also Kazakhstan shouldn't be in UEFA but grumblegrumblegrumble

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Postby Nadkor » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:08 am

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Ireland - 26th in the world.

Kazakhstan - 142nd in the world.


Let's be fair though FIFA rankings don't mean much.


They're not inaccurate to the tune of 116 places. Most teams are accurate if you take a 5-10 position margin of error.

I think we can agree that Ireland and Kazakhstan have about an identical chance of winning this upcoming World Cup.

None.

Even qualifying will be a big struggle for the both of them.


Well, that's not really the point.
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Postby The Icemark » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:11 am

Slembana wrote:As a Scotland fan, I'm not happy about us drawing 0-0 with Serbia today. My dad was at the match. But Serbia are much better than us...


Its not really a bad result - It was expected as theres not much difference between the two nations. Lets face it, both the scots and the serbians will probably be playing for third place anyway.

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Postby Wopruthien » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:13 am

The Icemark wrote:
Slembana wrote:As a Scotland fan, I'm not happy about us drawing 0-0 with Serbia today. My dad was at the match. But Serbia are much better than us...


Its not really a bad result - It was expected as theres not much difference between the two nations. Lets face it, both the scots and the serbians will probably be playing for third place anyway.


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Postby Serrland » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:14 am

Nadkor wrote:
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Let's be fair though FIFA rankings don't mean much.


They're not inaccurate to the tune of 116 places. Most teams are accurate if you take a 5-10 position margin of error.

I think we can agree that Ireland and Kazakhstan have about an identical chance of winning this upcoming World Cup.

None.

Even qualifying will be a big struggle for the both of them.


Well, that's not really the point.


My point was that Ireland seems to hold this position of plucky underdog team trying to defy all odds. People seem to want to see Ireland do well, even if they know it's not likely. Phoenigutza (sorry, spelling bungled, on an iPod so it isn't fun to try to copy and paste otherwise I'd dig up the proper spelling of his name) makes it a point, from what I've seen, to always support a team because they are, well, not so good. Seems to me that Ireland is often one of the teams that that sort of person flocks towards.

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Postby Nadkor » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:18 am

Serrland wrote:
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They're not inaccurate to the tune of 116 places. Most teams are accurate if you take a 5-10 position margin of error.



Well, that's not really the point.


My point was that Ireland seems to hold this position of plucky underdog team trying to defy all odds. People seem to want to see Ireland do well, even if they know it's not likely. Phoenigutza (sorry, spelling bungled, on an iPod so it isn't fun to try to copy and paste otherwise I'd dig up the proper spelling of his name) makes it a point, from what I've seen, to always support a team because they are, well, not so good. Seems to me that Ireland is often one of the teams that that sort of person flocks towards.

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Perhaps in Anglophone countries, but I'd be very surprised if they felt the same in Kazakhstan.
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Postby Serrland » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:20 am

Nadkor wrote:
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My point was that Ireland seems to hold this position of plucky underdog team trying to defy all odds. People seem to want to see Ireland do well, even if they know it's not likely. Phoenigutza (sorry, spelling bungled, on an iPod so it isn't fun to try to copy and paste otherwise I'd dig up the proper spelling of his name) makes it a point, from what I've seen, to always support a team because they are, well, not so good. Seems to me that Ireland is often one of the teams that that sort of person flocks towards.

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Perhaps in Anglophone countries, but I'd be very surprised if they felt the same in Kazakhstan.


Agreed, but given that Ph. isn't from Kazakhstan...

As an aside - does anyone know why Kazakhstan is in UEFA when the other former Soviet Central Asian states aren't?

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:21 am

Serrland wrote:
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Perhaps in Anglophone countries, but I'd be very surprised if they felt the same in Kazakhstan.


Agreed, but given that Ph. isn't from Kazakhstan...

As an aside - does anyone know why Kazakhstan is in UEFA when the other former Soviet Central Asian states aren't?


It has some land in Europe. Just a tiny bit, but yeah, that's it.

Also, Israel is in UEFA too, while having no territory whatsoever in Europe.
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Postby Serrland » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:23 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
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Agreed, but given that Ph. isn't from Kazakhstan...

As an aside - does anyone know why Kazakhstan is in UEFA when the other former Soviet Central Asian states aren't?


It has some land in Europe. Just a tiny bit, but yeah, that's it.

Also, Israel is in UEFA too, while having no territory whatsoever in Europe.


I figured that was more along the lines of Israeli fans (or neighboring fans heading to Israel) having difficulty getting through borders.

edit: since Spain has a teeny bit of land in Africa I am now writing Platini to see if UEFA will please boot them.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:25 am

Serrland wrote:
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It has some land in Europe. Just a tiny bit, but yeah, that's it.

Also, Israel is in UEFA too, while having no territory whatsoever in Europe.


I figured that was more along the lines of Israeli fans (or neighboring fans heading to Israel) having difficulty getting through borders.

edit: since Spain has a teeny bit of land in Africa I am now writing Platini to see if UEFA will please boot them.


Well, sucks to be an Israeli then. Not the UEFAs problem.

I also suggest to kick both France and Netherlands out, considering we have territory in the South America or/and the Caribbean (and in Frances case, also North America and various other places).
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Postby Serrland » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:30 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
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I figured that was more along the lines of Israeli fans (or neighboring fans heading to Israel) having difficulty getting through borders.

edit: since Spain has a teeny bit of land in Africa I am now writing Platini to see if UEFA will please boot them.


Well, sucks to be an Israeli then. Not the UEFAs problem.

I also suggest to kick both France and Netherlands out, considering we have territory in the South America or/and the Caribbean (and in Frances case, also North America and various other places).


So in situations like France, Spain, Netherlands, Portugal, the UK, USA, etc does the responsible national governing body decide which conference to join? Does FIFA assign it?

/headache.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:33 am

Serrland wrote:
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Well, sucks to be an Israeli then. Not the UEFAs problem.

I also suggest to kick both France and Netherlands out, considering we have territory in the South America or/and the Caribbean (and in Frances case, also North America and various other places).


So in situations like France, Spain, Netherlands, Portugal, the UK, USA, etc does the responsible national governing body decide which conference to join? Does FIFA assign it?

/headache.


Do not forget Australia. They joined the Asian conference.

So I assume that the responsible national governing body (FA, KNVB, etc.) decides on which conference to join, and I guess that said conference can then accept or refuse.
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Postby Phoenigetuzstha » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:33 am

Serrland wrote:
My point was that Ireland seems to hold this position of plucky underdog team trying to defy all odds. People seem to want to see Ireland do well, even if they know it's not likely. Phoenigutza (sorry, spelling bungled, on an iPod so it isn't fun to try to copy and paste otherwise I'd dig up the proper spelling of his name) makes it a point, from what I've seen, to always support a team because they are, well, not so good. Seems to me that Ireland is often one of the teams that that sort of person flocks towards.

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Tis okay, sometimes I can't spell my nations name :s

But yes, I usually support the underdogs, I almost lept up when Luxembourg scored against Portugal :')

Although, I don't really consider Ireland underdogs. They aren't that bad of a side. In their group, I would tip them, or Sweden to qualify, rather than a true underdog like Kazakhstan and Faroe Islands.

On another note: ARMENIA TOP GROUP 3! Although, we did lose embarrassingly to Switzerland. I'm guessing we'll get maybe 14-ish points, and not threaten the top 2.
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Postby Nadkor » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:33 am

The UK doesn't include any territory outside Europe :p
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:36 am

Nadkor wrote:The UK doesn't include any territory outside Europe :p


That's only because sometimes they consider themselves not to be a part of it ;)
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Postby Serrland » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:36 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
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So in situations like France, Spain, Netherlands, Portugal, the UK, USA, etc does the responsible national governing body decide which conference to join? Does FIFA assign it?

/headache.


Do not forget Australia. They joined the Asian conference.

So I assume that the responsible national governing body (FA, KNVB, etc.) decides on which conference to join, and I guess that said conference can then accept or refuse.


I wish we'd joined Asia, darn it.

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Postby Serrland » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:37 am

Nadkor wrote:The UK doesn't include any territory outside Europe :p


Oh you and your confusing overlaps.

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