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Postby Condunum » Tue May 15, 2012 8:43 pm

I found it.

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Postby Wazkyraque » Tue May 15, 2012 8:43 pm

Liriena wrote:
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But that would presuppose that such a being ever had any 'purpose' for his creation. What if he never did?

Alright, no more. Don't mind me. I have too much antihistamine flowing through my veins.


Well...I have always wondered WHY God would have created humans in the first place. What motivation could he have? What benefit would it bring Him?

I used to think it was like life size Sims, for short lived entertainment :P
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue May 15, 2012 8:45 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
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The capacity to create.

If we were to give a deity anthropomorphic features, I guess we could deduce that he had a purpose. But we're referring to a deity. He may not have had any purpose other than to create. After the creation, it was up to humans to find meaning. He perhaps never intended to give any meaning to anything.


Makes Him sound like a machine, which is a viable theory, I suppose.


Well, you see, it's like this. We approach a deity from a human standpoint. We give this deity feelings that are, IMO, inherently human. Do deities, if they exist, feel like us? I can't say yay or nay.
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue May 15, 2012 8:46 pm

I think Im going to crawl under a rock and die now.

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Tue May 15, 2012 8:47 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Makes Him sound like a machine, which is a viable theory, I suppose.


Well, you see, it's like this. We approach a deity from a human standpoint. We give this deity feelings that are, IMO, inherently human. Do deities, if they exist, feel like us? I can't say yay or nay.


Well, given that, whether one exists or not, the vast majority of deities are fictional beings created by humans to comfort us/explain things, deities are inherently human and feel like us.

Without years of evolutionary progress hammering empathy into our heads, a creator is most likely incomprehensible in it's motives (not to mention it's existence), to us.
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From a work to a work I was led to a work."
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Postby Vousielle » Tue May 15, 2012 8:48 pm

So here's the deal, I want to get laser eye surgery, but I'm ascurred.
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Postby Ende » Tue May 15, 2012 8:48 pm

Holy shit, only forty-four pages left until this one's gone too!

This one only lasted like a fortnight.
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Postby Liriena » Tue May 15, 2012 8:48 pm

Wazkyraque wrote:
Liriena wrote:
Well...I have always wondered WHY God would have created humans in the first place. What motivation could he have? What benefit would it bring Him?

I used to think it was like life size Sims, for short lived entertainment :P


Mmmmm...makes sense.
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Postby Saurisisia » Tue May 15, 2012 8:48 pm

Liriena wrote:Well...I have always wondered WHY God would have created humans in the first place. What motivation could he have? What benefit would it bring Him?


Maybe he was bored and figured why not create beings in his own image.

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Ende wrote:Holy shit, only forty-four pages left until this one's gone too!

This one only lasted like a week.


People, people; you're going to kill the website.
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue May 15, 2012 8:49 pm

Saurisisia wrote:
Liriena wrote:Well...I have always wondered WHY God would have created humans in the first place. What motivation could he have? What benefit would it bring Him?


Maybe he was bored and figured why not create beings in his own image.

Hathradic States wrote:I think Im going to crawl under a rock and die now.


What happened?

A lot. Enough to make a rock seem preferable to everything else.

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Postby Indeos » Tue May 15, 2012 8:50 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
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Eh, he was forcibly abstinent and slept with a ton of naked women to condition himself against temptation. Dunno how that's relevant to the joke; I'm in a factsy mood tonight.


Gandhi was weird, but I agree with his philosophy. Up to a point, of course; letting Nazis go unmurdered is too far, even for me.


Meh. I disagree on...well, a lot of his stuff. It's just not for me. Sex, drugs, and rock & roll are. Don't much care about the other thing, though; in-context he was saying that he cared a hell of a lot more about freeing his own damn country than what Hitler was doing. (That and he was commenting about how hypocritical the fight against fascism was while India was oppressed.)
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue May 15, 2012 8:50 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Well, you see, it's like this. We approach a deity from a human standpoint. We give this deity feelings that are, IMO, inherently human. Do deities, if they exist, feel like us? I can't say yay or nay.


Well, given that, whether one exists or not, the vast majority of deities are fictional beings created by humans to comfort us/explain things, deities are inherently human and feel like us.

Without years of evolutionary progress hammering empathy into our heads, a creator is most likely incomprehensible in it's motives (not to mention it's existence), to us.


Ah, but that's what believers suppose. That a deity is good and feels good and wrath, like a human does. However, if there are deities, why would they be subject to our ideas of feelings? Wouldn't they be above or beyond that?
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Postby Condunum » Tue May 15, 2012 8:51 pm

Vousielle wrote:So here's the deal, I want to get laser eye surgery, but I'm ascurred.

I have no idea what that means, but I'm sorry.
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Postby Saurisisia » Tue May 15, 2012 8:53 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Saurisisia wrote:
Maybe he was bored and figured why not create beings in his own image.



What happened?

A lot. Enough to make a rock seem preferable to everything else.


Ah, okay.
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MT FT Embassy
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Tue May 15, 2012 8:53 pm

Indeos wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:

Gandhi was weird, but I agree with his philosophy. Up to a point, of course; letting Nazis go unmurdered is too far, even for me.


Meh. I disagree on...well, a lot of his stuff. It's just not for me. Sex, drugs, and rock & roll are. Don't much care about the other thing, though; in-context he was saying that he cared a hell of a lot more about freeing his own damn country than what Hitler was doing. (That and he was commenting about how hypocritical the fight against fascism was while India was oppressed.)


I'm not saying people have to be like him, but he's a good role model; Intelligent, courageous, and focused on the betterment of humanity. A proper hero.


Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Well, given that, whether one exists or not, the vast majority of deities are fictional beings created by humans to comfort us/explain things, deities are inherently human and feel like us.

Without years of evolutionary progress hammering empathy into our heads, a creator is most likely incomprehensible in it's motives (not to mention it's existence), to us.


Ah, but that's what believers suppose. That a deity is good and feels good and wrath, like a human does. However, if there are deities, why would they be subject to our ideas of feelings? Wouldn't they be above or beyond that?


Yes, but, if the god only exists in the eye of the believer, they can suppose whatever they please and be correct.

If there is a creator, it is certainly not the one depicted in any human religion.
"Then I was fertilized and grew wise;
From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
- Odin, Hávamál 138-141, the Poetic Edda, as translated by Dan McCoy.

I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue May 15, 2012 8:53 pm

Did Karnizistan just plagiarized NS and made a mirror of this site? :o
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Postby Ende » Tue May 15, 2012 8:53 pm

<puts RPer hat on>

I think I'll be able to put a post up in AWB tonight. I'm not tired, I feel pretty good, my writing is decent, and I might be able to get in character.

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Postby Wazkyraque » Tue May 15, 2012 8:53 pm

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Hello Mayo. I like Wednesdays too, other than their bizarre spelling, I also get off early on them, unfortunate that it's Tuesday here ._.
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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Did Karnizistan just plagiarized NS and made a mirror of this site? :o

Link?
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Postby Condunum » Tue May 15, 2012 8:54 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Did Karnizistan just plagiarized NS and made a mirror of this site? :o

Something abut this screams lawsuit worthy.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue May 15, 2012 8:54 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:If there is a creator, it is certainly not the one depicted in any human religion.


Precisely my point.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Tue May 15, 2012 8:55 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:If there is a creator, it is certainly not the one depicted in any human religion.


Precisely my point.


Yeah, but I say it better, and without an accent. :p
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From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
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Postby Wazkyraque » Tue May 15, 2012 8:55 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Did Karnizistan just plagiarized NS and made a mirror of this site? :o

Lawlz.
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