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Postby The Corparation » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:35 pm

Saurisisia wrote:
Yuktova wrote:That's what the Scientific Party is. It doesn't exist...yet...


Eh, I prefer running on my own accord. I would trust no one as I strive to achieve my ultimate goal: the position as ruler of America.

I thoguht you had given that goal up in support of hath in the name of the cookie.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:35 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
I admire the optimism.

As far as the policies, I disagree with drastically increasing taxes on corporations, but do support a small hike... and a small hike in capital gains taxes... I'd say I like about half that plan. Not a bad start.


When I say extremely, I mean that in the context of policy. Most corporations which make tens of millions or higher have negligible marginal rates. I support drawing around 20% of their operating profits and using the windfall from that to lower taxes on smaller businesses. As for capital gains, I support raising it to about 35%, which is in line with average income tax for wage earners.


20% is too high. Drop it to 10%... 35% on capital gains is also a bit overdone. I'd go with 15 or 20%, depending on the cash involved.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:36 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Norstal wrote:Something I noticed: increasing taxes on corporations on a state-level seems to drive them away. Increasing taxes on corporations on a national-level won't do much.


That's one reason why the South isn't hurting quite as bad as the rest of us.


They are. Job growth in Texas has been outpaced by population growth. The rest of the south suffers from the most severe poverty in the US. Unemployment isn't the only measure of "hurting," since I would much rather be unemployed in Massachusetts than in Tennessee. All in all, people are doing better in northern states with average better education, better health care outcomes, higher median incomes and better access to basic services like police and fire departments(of which nearly half were shut down in Texas, for example.)
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Postby Saurisisia » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:36 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Saurisisia wrote:
Eh, I prefer running on my own accord. I would trust no one as I strive to achieve my ultimate goal: the position as ruler of America.

I thoguht you had given that goal up in support of hath in the name of the cookie.


Oh yeah.

Eh, we'll see how it goes. If it turns out that Hath's unable to do it, then I'd be able to carry it out myself.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:38 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
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I'm libertarian, not conservative, and not liberal. D:


You're more conservative than the average centrist.


The FB quiz I took yesterday also said I'm libertarian...
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Postby Wazkyraque » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:38 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:
You're more conservative than the average centrist.


The FB quiz I took yesterday also said I'm libertarian...

I lol'd
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:39 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:
You're more conservative than the average centrist.


The FB quiz I took yesterday also said I'm libertarian...


Quizzes lie.

And I'm not saying you aren't a libertarian. I'm saying you're a right-libertarian.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:39 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:
When I say extremely, I mean that in the context of policy. Most corporations which make tens of millions or higher have negligible marginal rates. I support drawing around 20% of their operating profits and using the windfall from that to lower taxes on smaller businesses. As for capital gains, I support raising it to about 35%, which is in line with average income tax for wage earners.


20% is too high. Drop it to 10%... 35% on capital gains is also a bit overdone. I'd go with 15 or 20%, depending on the cash involved.


20% is less than my grandfather paid to operate a business with profits of <$500k a year. 20% is what my mother pays before she receives her check. Since every penny they've earned has been on the backs of generations of Americans who built a country in which business can be profitably operated, I'd say 20% is a deal they should be delighted to receive.

I'd support an additional transaction tax of 50% on every dollar over $5,000 spent on political contributions.
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Postby Yuktova » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:40 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
Yuktova wrote:Thanks!

I'll prolly run under the Scientific Party or something. It'll mainly focus on improving agriculture, using the "Finnish model" of education (low stress, co-operative learning, individualized tests, ect.) make higher learning more affordable, make healthcare cheap and affordable, ect.


As long as you don't raise taxes, count me in.

I won't. It'll mainly be if we have the resources to do what we want. Money never really enters the equation. It depends on if we have the resources to do it. For example, let's say I want to replace Boston's old, inefficient city design with a circular city. We would first make sure we have the concrete, and metals required. We would put a central computer information "bank" in the centre, so that it can monitor all of the resources for us, population, ect. We then put several universities around the central computer information "bank". The universities are detected to agriculture, agronomy, medicine, ect. We then have entertainment centers and social clubs in the middle. Beyond that, we have the housing and agricultural "sky-scrappers" if you will. They can grow fruits and veggies year round due to gethothermal.
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Postby The Corparation » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:41 pm

Saurisisia wrote:
The Corparation wrote:I thoguht you had given that goal up in support of hath in the name of the cookie.


Oh yeah.

Eh, we'll see how it goes. If it turns out that Hath's unable to do it, then I'd be able to carry it out myself.

This tratoiurs thinking hall be reported to Hath in the name of cookies and milk.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:41 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
20% is too high. Drop it to 10%... 35% on capital gains is also a bit overdone. I'd go with 15 or 20%, depending on the cash involved.


20% is less than my grandfather paid to operate a business with profits of <$500k a year. 20% is what my mother pays before she receives her check. Since every penny they've earned has been on the backs of generations of Americans who built a country in which business can be profitably operated, I'd say 20% is a deal they should be delighted to receive.

I'd support an additional transaction tax of 50% on every dollar over $5,000 spent on political contributions.


Class warfare doesn't work though. And I LOVE that tax on political contributions. A truly voluntary tax.
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:43 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:
20% is less than my grandfather paid to operate a business with profits of <$500k a year. 20% is what my mother pays before she receives her check. Since every penny they've earned has been on the backs of generations of Americans who built a country in which business can be profitably operated, I'd say 20% is a deal they should be delighted to receive.

I'd support an additional transaction tax of 50% on every dollar over $5,000 spent on political contributions.


Class warfare doesn't work though. And I LOVE that tax on political contributions. A truly voluntary tax.


It isn't "class warfare" to ask rich people to lend a hand to the poor.
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Postby Former Wellboneland » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:43 pm

Me and my friends are going hunting.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:44 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:
20% is less than my grandfather paid to operate a business with profits of <$500k a year. 20% is what my mother pays before she receives her check. Since every penny they've earned has been on the backs of generations of Americans who built a country in which business can be profitably operated, I'd say 20% is a deal they should be delighted to receive.

I'd support an additional transaction tax of 50% on every dollar over $5,000 spent on political contributions.


Class warfare doesn't work though. And I LOVE that tax on political contributions. A truly voluntary tax.


Paying what other people have to pay to do something that will help you no matter what the outcome is. Class warfare is already going on, and so far the wealthy are winning by convincing everyone else that any attempt to get them to pay for the services they rely on to make their millions(or billions,) is an act of aggression, while they increase profit margins by stagnating their wages over a period of 40 years.
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Postby Yuktova » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:45 pm

Wazkyraque wrote:
Yuktova wrote:So kinda like déjà vu. Cool.

Also, I tied you up to a railroad ;)


When did this happen? :b

While you were asleep. I sodomized you :lol: :p
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Postby Saurisisia » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:46 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Saurisisia wrote:
Oh yeah.

Eh, we'll see how it goes. If it turns out that Hath's unable to do it, then I'd be able to carry it out myself.

This tratoiurs thinking hall be reported to Hath in the name of cookies and milk.


Oh crap.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:47 pm

Yuktova wrote:
Wazkyraque wrote:
When did this happen? :b

While you were asleep. I sodomized you :lol: :p


:rofl: :rofl:
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Postby Former Wellboneland » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:48 pm

I am on a boat :3
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Postby Norstal » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:49 pm

Former Wellboneland wrote:I am on a boat :3

I'm a boss.
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Postby Former Wellboneland » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:50 pm

Norstal wrote:
Former Wellboneland wrote:I am on a boat :3

I'm a boss.

The kid who look up to me can suck my dick.
I'm on shrooms.
I got a dick in a box.
Formerly Wellboneland, add 1982 posts.
I use the stats of my old nation. I have 2 billion people and 4 million soldiers.
Tulija wrote:Immature; good comic relief.
Our Tech Level is MT, and call us Wellboneland.
Our military

I am not a likable person at first, but it always comes back to this.
My Little Nutella
Bacon Tacos with Alekcandor!
99% of our people ICly act like this.
WE ARE NOT PONYISTS OMG IF YOU CALL US PONIES ONE MORE TIME...

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Postby Yuktova » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:52 pm

Former Wellboneland wrote:
Norstal wrote:I'm a boss.

The kid who look up to me can suck my dick.
I'm on shrooms.
I got a dick in a box.

:lol:
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Postby The Corparation » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:53 pm

Former Wellboneland wrote:
Norstal wrote:I'm a boss.

The kid who look up to me can suck my dick.
I'm on shrooms.
I got a dick in a box.

I threw your box on the ground.
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Postby Norstal » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:53 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
Class warfare doesn't work though. And I LOVE that tax on political contributions. A truly voluntary tax.


Paying what other people have to pay to do something that will help you no matter what the outcome is. Class warfare is already going on, and so far the wealthy are winning by convincing everyone else that any attempt to get them to pay for the services they rely on to make their millions(or billions,) is an act of aggression, while they increase profit margins by stagnating their wages over a period of 40 years.

I agree that the tax on a federal level needs to be increased, but this whole class warfare thing? I don't see it.
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Postby Former Wellboneland » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:55 pm

Yuktova wrote:
Former Wellboneland wrote:The kid who look up to me can suck my dick.
I'm on shrooms.
I got a dick in a box.

:lol:

Yes, TLI is funny.
Formerly Wellboneland, add 1982 posts.
I use the stats of my old nation. I have 2 billion people and 4 million soldiers.
Tulija wrote:Immature; good comic relief.
Our Tech Level is MT, and call us Wellboneland.
Our military

I am not a likable person at first, but it always comes back to this.
My Little Nutella
Bacon Tacos with Alekcandor!
99% of our people ICly act like this.
WE ARE NOT PONYISTS OMG IF YOU CALL US PONIES ONE MORE TIME...

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Postby Wazkyraque » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:55 pm

Yuktova wrote:
Wazkyraque wrote:
When did this happen? :b

While you were asleep. I sodomized you :lol: :p

Damnit, all the fun stuff happens when I'm not awake :b :3
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