The Eternal Thread - So NSG, What's Going On?

[Nationstatelandsville]

He also says that violating any of the other ones means you go to Hell.

People misquote Jesus all the time. Tons of people edited the Bible after Jesus died.

So how do you know he wasn't even harsher, hm?

[Indeos]

He also says that violating any of the other ones means you go to Hell.

People misquote Jesus all the time. Tons of people edited the Bible after Jesus died.

Prove that what you're quoting is real and what I'm quoting isn't and I'll admit you're right. Until then, that's a paper-thin excuse for not wanting to believe most people burn for eternity.

[Nationstatelandsville]

People misquote Jesus all the time. Tons of people edited the Bible after Jesus died.

Prove that what you're quoting is real and what I'm quoting isn't and I'll admit you're right. Until then, that's a paper-thin excuse for not wanting to believe most people burn for eternity.

Are you Christian, Indeos?

[Indeos]

Prove that what you're quoting is real and what I'm quoting isn't and I'll admit you're right. Until then, that's a paper-thin excuse for not wanting to believe most people burn for eternity.

Are you Christian, Indeos?

Atheist/Agnostic/I don't actually really believe much of anything.

[Nationstatelandsville]

Are you Christian, Indeos?

Atheist/Agnostic/I don't actually really believe much of anything.

So, uh... why are you arguing this?

[Coffee Cakes]

As long as you're a good person, you end up in Heaven sooner or later, sooner if you've been a better person and later if you've been worse. Or at least, that's the way it should be.

"The way it should be" =/= the way it is. Like I said, reading has led me to believe that very few people can actually make it into Heaven. Most of what Jesus says in the Bible is about how difficult it is.

Hm, yeah his parables do paint that picture, but it's really the opposite if you read Paul's writings.
But they were spoken at different times.
Jesus's parables were spoken before he died and was resurrected (in Christian theology), and were aimed at the Jewish folk who believed following the Law was what got you to Heaven.
Paul came along afterwards, when the doctrine of being saved by faith through Jesus's death was being spread and expounded on that topic to a decent degree.

[Yoite]

Atheist/Agnostic/I don't actually really believe much of anything.

So, uh... why are you arguing this?

He is being . . . "The Devil's Advocate"

[Indeos]

Atheist/Agnostic/I don't actually really believe much of anything.

So, uh... why are you arguing this?

Because he's making baseless claims at this point, and I don't see why I can't argue the facts of what's in the Bible even if I don't believe any of it.

[Newmoonrising]

"The way it should be" =/= the way it is. Like I said, reading has led me to believe that very few people can actually make it into Heaven. Most of what Jesus says in the Bible is about how difficult it is.

Jesus said the two most important commandments are to love God and to love one another. If someone is loving towards their fellow human beings and isn't too big on hating on God, they go to Heaven. Simple as that. Good people go to Heaven.

Also, considering that their are verses where he went down into hell and recused all the prophet from before his time from hell make me think that he isn't that vindictive and cruel.

[Thatius]

Just booked my National Championship Tickets for Alabama vs. LSU.

[Alexlantis]

Jesus said the two most important commandments are to love God and to love one another. If someone is loving towards their fellow human beings and isn't too big on hating on God, they go to Heaven. Simple as that. Good people go to Heaven.

Also, considering that their are verses where he went down into hell and recused all the prophet from before his time from hell make me think that he isn't that vindictive and cruel.

Thank you.

[Nationstatelandsville]

So, uh... why are you arguing this?

Because he's making baseless claims at this point, and I don't see why I can't argue the facts of what's in the Bible even if I don't believe any of it.

He's making a baseless claim about religion. Sure, you're right, but they're his... "beliefs", as bullshit as that is. He's chosen to belief that the Christian God is merciful, and we have no real way of disproving that. It's a book. He can interpret the character differently. That's basically what it comes down to.

[Indeos]

Because he's making baseless claims at this point, and I don't see why I can't argue the facts of what's in the Bible even if I don't believe any of it.

He's making a baseless claim about religion. Sure, you're right, but they're his... "beliefs", as bullshit as that is. He's chosen to belief that the Christian God is merciful, and we have no real way of disproving that. It's a book. He can interpret the character differently. That's basically what it comes down to.

I'd like to see which parts of the book he's interpreting like that, mostly.

[Yoite]

Because he's making baseless claims at this point, and I don't see why I can't argue the facts of what's in the Bible even if I don't believe any of it.

He's making a baseless claim about religion. Sure, you're right, but they're his... "beliefs", as bullshit as that is. He's chosen to belief that the Christian God is merciful, and we have no real way of disproving that. It's a book. He can interpret the character differently. That's basically what it comes down to.

And besides, "baseless claims" is synonymous with "religion"

[Nationstatelandsville]

He's making a baseless claim about religion. Sure, you're right, but they're his... "beliefs", as bullshit as that is. He's chosen to belief that the Christian God is merciful, and we have no real way of disproving that. It's a book. He can interpret the character differently. That's basically what it comes down to.

I'd like to see which parts of the book he's interpreting like that, mostly.

Do people usually let petty things like "proof" get in the way of how they see things?

[Nationstatelandsville]

He's making a baseless claim about religion. Sure, you're right, but they're his... "beliefs", as bullshit as that is. He's chosen to belief that the Christian God is merciful, and we have no real way of disproving that. It's a book. He can interpret the character differently. That's basically what it comes down to.

And besides, "baseless claims" is synonymous with "religion"

Eh... somewhat.

[Indeos]

I'd like to see which parts of the book he's interpreting like that, mostly.

Do people usually let petty things like "proof" get in the way of how they see things?

If they don't, I'm just going to reject them out of hand as loudly as possible. I have a word for people who don't bother with proof. Several, actually.

[Coffee Cakes]

Just booked my National Championship Tickets for Alabama vs. LSU.

I'll drink to that. SEC BABY!

[Nationstatelandsville]

Do people usually let petty things like "proof" get in the way of how they see things?

If they don't, I'm just going to reject them out of hand as loudly as possible. I have a word for people who don't bother with proof. Several, actually.

Don't share, please.

With religion though, you know, it's hard to refute, mainly because it's so tied to emotion.

[Newmoonrising]

He's making a baseless claim about religion. Sure, you're right, but they're his... "beliefs", as bullshit as that is. He's chosen to belief that the Christian God is merciful, and we have no real way of disproving that. It's a book. He can interpret the character differently. That's basically what it comes down to.

I'd like to see which parts of the book he's interpreting like that, mostly.

If Jesus wasn't merciful do you thing he would have saved a prostitute from death?

[Indeos]

If they don't, I'm just going to reject them out of hand as loudly as possible. I have a word for people who don't bother with proof. Several, actually.

Don't share, please.

With religion though, you know, it's hard to refute, mainly because it's so tied to emotion.

I'm not refuting the religion, I'm refuting his belief that the Bible says it's easy to get into Heaven. This is something that can be proven beyond a doubt rather easily.

[Indeos]

I'd like to see which parts of the book he's interpreting like that, mostly.

If Jesus wasn't merciful do you thing he would have saved a prostitute from death?

When did I call him unmerciful? I just said that his speeches lead me to believe it's difficult for people to get into Heaven.

[Nationstatelandsville]

Don't share, please.

With religion though, you know, it's hard to refute, mainly because it's so tied to emotion.

I'm not refuting the religion, I'm refuting his belief that the Bible says it's easy to get into Heaven. This is something that can be proven beyond a doubt rather easily.

Not really, no. Have you been to Heaven? No. You really can't say for sure. The Bible is, after all, a contradictory mess of accounts from many different authors.

[The Murtunian Tribes]

I'd like to see which parts of the book he's interpreting like that, mostly.

If Jesus wasn't merciful do you thing he would have saved a prostitute from death?

Maybe.

[Indeos]

I'm not refuting the religion, I'm refuting his belief that the Bible says it's easy to get into Heaven. This is something that can be proven beyond a doubt rather easily.

Not really, no. Have you been to Heaven? No. You really can't say for sure. The Bible is, after all, a contradictory mess of accounts from many different authors.

Actually, it can. We're arguing what the Bible says, not what's true. You obviously just don't understand what I'm saying.