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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:03 pm

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The thing I was wondering about was if they have the rights for a Hunger Games video game or if they're doing it unlicensed.

It's similar to the hunger games. They just didn't want to get sued.

I put it in the Gaiaverse because otherwise they would get sued and it fit the Ragon Empire.


If they do get sued, your posts in this thread can be used as evidence against them.

When you get inspiration from other people's work, you need to be mindful of how you use that and how you talk about it. There's a difference between saying, "It's kind of like Hunger Games," and, "It's Hunger Games - the video game."
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:18 pm

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Postby The New World Oceania » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:24 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:It's similar to the hunger games. They just didn't want to get sued.

I put it in the Gaiaverse because otherwise they would get sued and it fit the Ragon Empire.


If they do get sued, your posts in this thread can be used as evidence against them.

When you get inspiration from other people's work, you need to be mindful of how you use that and how you talk about it. There's a difference between saying, "It's kind of like Hunger Games," and, "It's Hunger Games - the video game."


If I were asked to defend them, I'd likely object to the evidence as hearsay and argue it was self-authenticating. If that were overruled, I'd have objected to a lack of foundation. If the evidence was sustained no matter what, the plaintiff would presumably call Zein as a witness. Then I would obliterate him in the cross-examination.
Or, you know, I'd suggest the company just settle and not butt heads with Lionsgate, but longer trials pay more.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:27 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
If they do get sued, your posts in this thread can be used as evidence against them.

When you get inspiration from other people's work, you need to be mindful of how you use that and how you talk about it. There's a difference between saying, "It's kind of like Hunger Games," and, "It's Hunger Games - the video game."


If I were asked to defend them, I'd likely object to the evidence as hearsay and argue it was self-authenticating. If that were overruled, I'd have objected to a lack of foundation. If the evidence was sustained no matter what, the plaintiff would presumably call Zein as a witness. Then I would obliterate him in the cross-examination.
Or, you know, I'd suggest the company just settle and not butt heads with Lionsgate, but longer trials pay more.


Not to mention with the exception of a legal confession self-incrimination is not valid evidence. That's why if you walked into a 7-11 and said "Yo I killed bob yesterday" and that was the only evidence that was brought against you in a trial you'd walk free.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:35 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
If they do get sued, your posts in this thread can be used as evidence against them.

When you get inspiration from other people's work, you need to be mindful of how you use that and how you talk about it. There's a difference between saying, "It's kind of like Hunger Games," and, "It's Hunger Games - the video game."


If I were asked to defend them, I'd likely object to the evidence as hearsay and argue it was self-authenticating. If that were overruled, I'd have objected to a lack of foundation. If the evidence was sustained no matter what, the plaintiff would presumably call Zein as a witness. Then I would obliterate him in the cross-examination.
Or, you know, I'd suggest the company just settle and not butt heads with Lionsgate, but longer trials pay more.

"Hey you have scrolls in the name, use it once and never again or we'll sue"

"Hey, we totally coined the term Space Marine! Not like it's been used since the 50's"
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Postby Laerod » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:09 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
The New World Oceania wrote:
If I were asked to defend them, I'd likely object to the evidence as hearsay and argue it was self-authenticating. If that were overruled, I'd have objected to a lack of foundation. If the evidence was sustained no matter what, the plaintiff would presumably call Zein as a witness. Then I would obliterate him in the cross-examination.
Or, you know, I'd suggest the company just settle and not butt heads with Lionsgate, but longer trials pay more.

"Hey you have scrolls in the name, use it once and never again or we'll sue"

"Hey, we totally coined the term Space Marine! Not like it's been used since the 50's"

Comparing "Scrolls" or "Space Marine" to "Hunger Games" in terms of uniqeness is silly at best.

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Postby Zeinbrad » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:16 pm

Laerod wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:"Hey you have scrolls in the name, use it once and never again or we'll sue"

"Hey, we totally coined the term Space Marine! Not like it's been used since the 50's"

Comparing "Scrolls" or "Space Marine" to "Hunger Games" in terms of uniqeness is silly at best.

I wasn't.

Those are real life lawsuits.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:20 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Laerod wrote:Comparing "Scrolls" or "Space Marine" to "Hunger Games" in terms of uniqeness is silly at best.

I wasn't.

Those are real life lawsuits.


That's partially because GW are a bunch of dickwads who'll sue over anything and everything they think they can get away with. Bethesda, I'm not so sure about.
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Postby Laerod » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:35 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Laerod wrote:Comparing "Scrolls" or "Space Marine" to "Hunger Games" in terms of uniqeness is silly at best.

I wasn't.

Those are real life lawsuits.

That lost. Hunger Games is a lot more unique than either example you cited.

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Postby Phocidaea » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:07 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:I wasn't.

Those are real life lawsuits.


That's partially because GW are a bunch of dickwads who'll sue over anything and everything they think they can get away with. Bethesda, I'm not so sure about.

To be fair, it was Zenimax, not Bethesda.

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:25 pm

Bezombia wrote:
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If I were asked to defend them, I'd likely object to the evidence as hearsay and argue it was self-authenticating. If that were overruled, I'd have objected to a lack of foundation. If the evidence was sustained no matter what, the plaintiff would presumably call Zein as a witness. Then I would obliterate him in the cross-examination.
Or, you know, I'd suggest the company just settle and not butt heads with Lionsgate, but longer trials pay more.


Not to mention with the exception of a legal confession self-incrimination is not valid evidence. That's why if you walked into a 7-11 and said "Yo I killed bob yesterday" and that was the only evidence that was brought against you in a trial you'd walk free.


Civil cases don't work like criminal trials.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:25 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
Not to mention with the exception of a legal confession self-incrimination is not valid evidence. That's why if you walked into a 7-11 and said "Yo I killed bob yesterday" and that was the only evidence that was brought against you in a trial you'd walk free.


Civil cases don't work like criminal trials.


oh

well i guess this is why i'm not a laywer
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Postby Bontavation » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:52 pm

For Zeinbrad to be sued, he would first have to write something.

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Postby Bezombia » Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:54 pm

Bontavation wrote:For Zeinbrad to be sued, he would first have to write something.


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Postby Zeinbrad » Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:07 pm

Bontavation wrote:For Zeinbrad to be sued, he would first have to write something.

*looks at game*

Heck, I'm not doing anything major in writing because of this.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:31 pm

Bontavation wrote:For Zeinbrad to be sued, he would first have to write something.


Well, he said he was writing and I'm not really in a position to criticize considering how unproductive I've been recently.

Then again I did enter the short story contest with a puppet, so it hasn't been THAT long since I actually wrote something....
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Postby The New World Oceania » Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:34 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Bontavation wrote:For Zeinbrad to be sued, he would first have to write something.


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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:48 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Bontavation wrote:For Zeinbrad to be sued, he would first have to write something.


Well, he said he was writing and I'm not really in a position to criticize considering how unproductive I've been recently.

Then again I did enter the short story contest with a puppet, so it hasn't been THAT long since I actually wrote something....

Now I'm going to see if I can identify your style amongst the entrants, :p
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Postby Vancon » Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:49 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Bontavation wrote:For Zeinbrad to be sued, he would first have to write something.


Well, he said he was writing and I'm not really in a position to criticize considering how unproductive I've been recently.

Then again I did enter the short story contest with a puppet, so it hasn't been THAT long since I actually wrote something....

Whaaaaaaaa?
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:38 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
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Well, he said he was writing and I'm not really in a position to criticize considering how unproductive I've been recently.

Then again I did enter the short story contest with a puppet, so it hasn't been THAT long since I actually wrote something....

Now I'm going to see if I can identify your style amongst the entrants, :p


You probably can figure out which is mine if you are really determined to, not just because of the style, but also because you know what types of subject matter I am interested in.
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Postby Vozt Yurkova » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:59 pm

As Suzanne Collins and Lionsgate have yet to be bankrupted by a lawsuit from Koushun Takami or Toei, I think Zein will be safe. If having a thing be somewhat similar to another thing was that actionable, nobody would ever write anything.
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Postby Respubliko de Libereco » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:06 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Now I'm going to see if I can identify your style amongst the entrants, :p


You probably can figure out which is mine if you are really determined to, not just because of the style, but also because you know what types of subject matter I am interested in.

I think the Civil War ghost gives it away.

For some reason I also suspect that you're -Ebola-, though I don't really have any evidence to back it up.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:13 pm

Vozt Yurkova wrote:As Suzanne Collins and Lionsgate have yet to be bankrupted by a lawsuit from Koushun Takami or Toei, I think Zein will be safe. If having a thing be somewhat similar to another thing was that actionable, nobody would ever write anything.


Having something be similar is fine. Having something similar and telling people, "It's Hunger Games - the video game," is a bad idea.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:24 pm

Respubliko de Libereco wrote:
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You probably can figure out which is mine if you are really determined to, not just because of the style, but also because you know what types of subject matter I am interested in.

I think the Civil War ghost gives it away.

For some reason I also suspect that you're Ebola, though I don't really have any evidence to back it up.


You are right. NFP and -Ebola- are both based on the same concept: Take something that everyone hates because it kills people, then turn it into a likable character.
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Postby Respubliko de Libereco » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:41 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Respubliko de Libereco wrote:
I think the Civil War ghost gives it away.

For some reason I also suspect that you're Ebola, though I don't really have any evidence to back it up.


You are right. NFP and -Ebola- are both based on the same concept: Take something that everyone hates because it kills people, then turn it into a likable character.

In retrospect, I think it was probably a faint memory of Confederate Flower Power that made me suspicious.

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