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Postby Gidgetisms » Sat Nov 08, 2014 2:35 am

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But I'm employed...

so am I. I'm still doing it.
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But I'm employed...

so am I. I'm still doing it.


I just don't see it happening this time around. I was scrambling to finish a short story at the beginning of the month, so I wasn't ready to dive into NaNo when it started, and that kind of threw me off my game.
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Postby Gidgetisms » Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:06 am

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Gidgetisms wrote:so am I. I'm still doing it.


I just don't see it happening this time around. I was scrambling to finish a short story at the beginning of the month, so I wasn't ready to dive into NaNo when it started, and that kind of threw me off my game.

ok, it's cool, but I really think you could do it
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Postby Zeinbrad » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:34 am

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Zeinbrad wrote:And a lot of references or 'clever' naming.

Considering that the majority of the copying/unoriginality accusations against you have been due to your use of names from other sources, I wouldn't be so quick to call your naming "clever" if I were you.

That's why it was in quotes.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:31 am

Gidgetisms wrote:hello guys! How's your nano writing going?

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Postby Yoite » Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:54 pm

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Still scientifically impossible because different neurons are constructed differently for different tasks.

I can give a crash course in bullshitting.

I'm a sci-ri write but I know nothing about science. I just make it up.


That's not something to aspire too. Even science fantasy should try to make sense within the confines of its reality.
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I'm into Patriotic and Enlightenment poems.
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Postby Alliir » Sun Nov 09, 2014 1:21 pm

I'm new to this entire forum, for the most part. Not sure exactly what the "style" is here, but ah well. I'll learn as I go.
So, I'm writing a Sci-fi book. But recently, I've been afraid that It's too similar to my all-time favorite Sci-fi universe, Halo. I'm not sure what to do about this.
In short, my ship design resembles a ship design in Halo, the game is based off a genocidal alien force invading Human space as in Halo, and they are more advanced, as in Halo. I find myself checking everything I start to make sure it is different, which is not very good. Any advice? Anybody going through the same thing?
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Nov 09, 2014 1:23 pm

Alliir wrote:I'm new to this entire forum, for the most part. Not sure exactly what the "style" is here, but ah well. I'll learn as I go.
So, I'm writing a Sci-fi book. But recently, I've been afraid that It's too similar to my all-time favorite Sci-fi universe, Halo. I'm not sure what to do about this.
In short, my ship design resembles a ship design in Halo, the game is based off a genocidal alien force invading Human space as in Halo, and they are more advanced, as in Halo. I find myself checking everything I start to make sure it is different, which is not very good. Any advice? Anybody going through the same thing?


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Postby Torisakia » Sun Nov 09, 2014 1:29 pm

Gidgetisms wrote:hello guys! How's your nano writing going?

Surprisingly, I've gotten 20,135 words within 9 days.

So I'm 40.27% of the way there.
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Postby Yoite » Sun Nov 09, 2014 1:44 pm

Alliir wrote:I'm new to this entire forum, for the most part. Not sure exactly what the "style" is here, but ah well. I'll learn as I go.
So, I'm writing a Sci-fi book. But recently, I've been afraid that It's too similar to my all-time favorite Sci-fi universe, Halo. I'm not sure what to do about this.
In short, my ship design resembles a ship design in Halo, the game is based off a genocidal alien force invading Human space as in Halo, and they are more advanced, as in Halo. I find myself checking everything I start to make sure it is different, which is not very good. Any advice? Anybody going through the same thing?


Those aspects are very common in science fiction, Halo was successful because they took the same things and portrayed them well and made them feel different. Just do that, don't struggle to make sure your things aren't the same, work to make them their own.
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Postby The High Lords » Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:13 pm

Gidgetisms wrote:hello guys! How's your nano writing going?


I just stopped at 5000 words... I'm kind of angry at myself.

I'll probably take a day out on saturday or something and write a shitload.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:18 pm

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Gidgetisms wrote:hello guys! How's your nano writing going?


I just stopped at 5000 words... I'm kind of angry at myself.

I'll probably take a day out on saturday or something and write a shitload.

I'm writing for a game.

Whenever I'm not writing for it I feel kind of bad.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:08 pm

Alliir wrote:I'm new to this entire forum, for the most part. Not sure exactly what the "style" is here, but ah well. I'll learn as I go.
So, I'm writing a Sci-fi book. But recently, I've been afraid that It's too similar to my all-time favorite Sci-fi universe, Halo. I'm not sure what to do about this.
In short, my ship design resembles a ship design in Halo, the game is based off a genocidal alien force invading Human space as in Halo, and they are more advanced, as in Halo. I find myself checking everything I start to make sure it is different, which is not very good. Any advice? Anybody going through the same thing?

I'd only really worry about the first one. The other two are common sci-fi tropes.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:22 pm

Alliir wrote:I'm new to this entire forum, for the most part. Not sure exactly what the "style" is here, but ah well. I'll learn as I go.
So, I'm writing a Sci-fi book. But recently, I've been afraid that It's too similar to my all-time favorite Sci-fi universe, Halo. I'm not sure what to do about this.
In short, my ship design resembles a ship design in Halo, the game is based off a genocidal alien force invading Human space as in Halo, and they are more advanced, as in Halo. I find myself checking everything I start to make sure it is different, which is not very good. Any advice? Anybody going through the same thing?

In short, my ship design resembles a ship design in Halo
-Same really, through I never describe them and if they ever get in a visual medium, I just have the people have their fun with it.

Through I'm thinking of changing the GDF's MAC's.

The game is based off a genocidal alien force invading Human space as in Halo
-Common trope, same with Precursors from my knowledge. Through the Ragon in my stories are not genocidal but more believe in a manifest destiny kind of thing.


They are more advanced, as in Halo
-Another common trope, if I were you I'd be more worried on why the humans are so primitive. Personally I just give the GDF and some corporations some experimental or rare laser weapons.

Heck, the Longsword-Class Dreadnought (The largest mass produced ship in the war next to the Hellsword which wasn't mass produced) used to be armed with higher caliber Gauss guns and four MAC's, now it's armed with reversed engineered plasma cannons and a bunch of other fun toys.

Sorry for rambling.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:16 pm

The High Lords wrote:
Gidgetisms wrote:hello guys! How's your nano writing going?


I just stopped at 5000 words... I'm kind of angry at myself.

I'll probably take a day out on saturday or something and write a shitload.


You're doing better than I am. I just go home from going up to New Hampshire with my parents, and I had set aside the whole weekend for the trip to NH, so I didn't have anything to do tonight, and I actually managed to get a little writing done, but I am still only 1400 words in. This is why I just don't think I am going to finish by the deadline, or even close.
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Postby The New World Oceania » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:24 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
The High Lords wrote:
I just stopped at 5000 words... I'm kind of angry at myself.

I'll probably take a day out on saturday or something and write a shitload.


You're doing better than I am. I just go home from going up to New Hampshire with my parents, and I had set aside the whole weekend for the trip to NH, so I didn't have anything to do tonight, and I actually managed to get a little writing done, but I am still only 1400 words in. This is why I just don't think I am going to finish by the deadline, or even close.


Perhaps you could opt for NaFfoWriMo, for flash fiction. 200 words in one month.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:58 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
You're doing better than I am. I just go home from going up to New Hampshire with my parents, and I had set aside the whole weekend for the trip to NH, so I didn't have anything to do tonight, and I actually managed to get a little writing done, but I am still only 1400 words in. This is why I just don't think I am going to finish by the deadline, or even close.


Perhaps you could opt for NaFfoWriMo, for flash fiction. 200 words in one month.


It's not flash fiction, though. It's a set up for a novel.
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:14 am

6 soldiers are traveling secretly through enemy territory. One rapes another. 2 want to punish the rapist, the other 2 are more concerned about keeping him to finish the mission, while the raped soldier is confused and grieving, as she had fallen in love with her rapist and was in a relationship with him already and had even had sex with him.

Writers, what happens?

I find a good exercise for writers is to give them premises like these and then see what they come up with to see what kind of writer they are and on what level they are.

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:07 pm

The Rich Port wrote:6 soldiers are traveling secretly through enemy territory. One rapes another. 2 want to punish the rapist, the other 2 are more concerned about keeping him to finish the mission, while the raped soldier is confused and grieving, as she had fallen in love with her rapist and was in a relationship with him already and had even had sex with him.

Writers, what happens?

I find a good exercise for writers is to give them premises like these and then see what they come up with to see what kind of writer they are and on what level they are.


They're your characters. Not my problem.

How am I supposed to know what happens if I don't know who these people are?
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Postby Respubliko de Libereco » Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:14 pm

The Rich Port wrote:6 soldiers are traveling secretly through enemy territory. One rapes another. 2 want to punish the rapist, the other 2 are more concerned about keeping him to finish the mission, while the raped soldier is confused and grieving, as she had fallen in love with her rapist and was in a relationship with him already and had even had sex with him.

Writers, what happens?

I find a good exercise for writers is to give them premises like these and then see what they come up with to see what kind of writer they are and on what level they are.

My attempt:

For a while, they try to put the incident behind them, but one of the soldiers (who has some sort of non-sexual relationship to the victim, perhaps a familial relationship of some sort), really wants to see the rapist punished. Eventually, during some sort of operation, he is presented with the perfect opportunity to kill the rapist without taking the blame. However, he hesitates a bit too long, and the rapist manages to fight back a bit, before ultimately being badly injured and knocked unconscious. Before he can finish the rapist off, however, one of the others shows up (having been drawn to the sound of gunfire), forcing the soldier to claim that they were ambushed (or something like that). They drag the badly injured, unconscious rapist back to the camp.

Seeing the rapist in such a vulnerable state increases the victim's confusion/inner turmoil. She spends a lot of time by his side, waiting for him to wake up, but isn't exactly sure how she'll react when it happens. Ultimately, she decides that she'll say a final goodbye and then kill him herself (I'm not sure I could pull this decision off in a believable manner, but whatever). Meanwhile, the soldier who tried to kill the rapist plans to kill finish him off before he wakes, in order to keep his secret from getting out.

Late at night, when it's his turn at watch, the would-be killer sneaks into the tent where the rapist is being kept. In doing so, he wakes the victim (who he didn't know was sleeping in that tent). As he tries to explain himself to the victim, the rapist starts waking up, and looks like he's about to speak. The soldier panics and stabs him, in full view of the victim. Still panicking, he turns to kill her, too, but ultimately can't bring himself to do it (since, as I mentioned near the start, he has some sort of strong relationship with her). She, however, lashes out in self defense, killing him. She then attempts to drag the soldier's body away from the camp and make it look like he was killed by the enemy. While she is doing this, there is no one left awake in the camp, allowing the other three soldiers to be captured easily by a random enemy patrol. Returning to see the camp swarming with enemies, and still in turmoil from recent events, she shoots herself.


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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:01 pm

The Rich Port wrote:6 soldiers are traveling secretly through enemy territory. One rapes another. 2 want to punish the rapist, the other 2 are more concerned about keeping him to finish the mission, while the raped soldier is confused and grieving, as she had fallen in love with her rapist and was in a relationship with him already and had even had sex with him.

Writers, what happens?

I find a good exercise for writers is to give them premises like these and then see what they come up with to see what kind of writer they are and on what level they are.

I can't bring myself to care. It seems so... contrived.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:09 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:6 soldiers are traveling secretly through enemy territory. One rapes another. 2 want to punish the rapist, the other 2 are more concerned about keeping him to finish the mission, while the raped soldier is confused and grieving, as she had fallen in love with her rapist and was in a relationship with him already and had even had sex with him.

Writers, what happens?

I find a good exercise for writers is to give them premises like these and then see what they come up with to see what kind of writer they are and on what level they are.

I can't bring myself to care. It seems so... contrived.


That's kind of my issue with it too. It reads like a hypothetical out of an NSG rape debate, and it doesn't leave enough room for me to put in my own characters because the prompt has already said what everyone's reaction to the rape was.
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Postby Laerod » Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:58 pm

The Rich Port wrote:6 soldiers are traveling secretly through enemy territory. One rapes another. 2 want to punish the rapist, the other 2 are more concerned about keeping him to finish the mission, while the raped soldier is confused and grieving, as she had fallen in love with her rapist and was in a relationship with him already and had even had sex with him.

Writers, what happens?

I find a good exercise for writers is to give them premises like these and then see what they come up with to see what kind of writer they are and on what level they are.

Too much is predetermined and the topic is waaaaaaaaaay too heavy for a simple exercise.

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