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Postby Gidgetisms » Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:28 am

Conserative Morality wrote:Shit, shit, shit, NaNoWriMo...

you should have heard me at kickoff.....blargh
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:46 am

Gidgetisms wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Shit, shit, shit, NaNoWriMo...

you should have heard me at kickoff.....blargh


I just realized that I don't have a name for the band my protagonist plays in... I'm thinking of calling them the Plague Doctors, but not having a name ready tripped me enough that I didn't get started tonight. I know where I want the story to go, but I didn't have a plan ready for the opening scene.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:56 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Gidgetisms wrote:you should have heard me at kickoff.....blargh


I just realized that I don't have a name for the band my protagonist plays in... I'm thinking of calling them the Plague Doctors, but not having a name ready tripped me enough that I didn't get started tonight. I know where I want the story to go, but I didn't have a plan ready for the opening scene.


You at least have an idea where your story is going. All I have are ideas and no concrete direction on where or how to cohesively take them. I don't think NaNoWriMo is gonna get done for me this year... again.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:26 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
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I just realized that I don't have a name for the band my protagonist plays in... I'm thinking of calling them the Plague Doctors, but not having a name ready tripped me enough that I didn't get started tonight. I know where I want the story to go, but I didn't have a plan ready for the opening scene.


You at least have an idea where your story is going. All I have are ideas and no concrete direction on where or how to cohesively take them. I don't think NaNoWriMo is gonna get done for me this year... again.


Oh, there's a lot I don't have worked out yet. I have a pair of protagonists, a villain, and a rough idea of what they are fighting about, but beyond that I don't know what I'm doing. Basically, the 2nd coming has occurred and a couple of heathen gods are trying to prevent Jesus from ending the world.
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Postby Nordengrund » Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:31 am

I started the story for my NaNo a day early. I hope that isn't cheating. So far I have a good start. I think I will share a little bit once I finish the first chapter.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:42 am

Goddamn I'm writing for a Christmas Contest, NaNoWriMo, the Fall Short Story Contest on here, and my usual tormentors.

Jesus Christ I need to step up my game. Or step down. Maybe both.

EDIT: Started on NaNo. Maybe this year I'll make it (Ha)

Who else is doing NaNo? Other than those who've already chimed in on this page.
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Postby Respubliko de Libereco » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:08 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
You at least have an idea where your story is going. All I have are ideas and no concrete direction on where or how to cohesively take them. I don't think NaNoWriMo is gonna get done for me this year... again.


Oh, there's a lot I don't have worked out yet. I have a pair of protagonists, a villain, and a rough idea of what they are fighting about, but beyond that I don't know what I'm doing. Basically, the 2nd coming has occurred and a couple of heathen gods are trying to prevent Jesus from ending the world.

Hm.

Have you read Good Omens, by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman?

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Postby Nerotysia » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:19 am

Conserative Morality wrote:Goddamn I'm writing for a Christmas Contest, NaNoWriMo, the Fall Short Story Contest on here, and my usual tormentors.

Jesus Christ I need to step up my game. Or step down. Maybe both.

EDIT: Started on NaNo. Maybe this year I'll make it (Ha)

Who else is doing NaNo? Other than those who've already chimed in on this page.

I had planned to do NaNo, but I've just finished a novella which I shall be occupied editing for quite a while, and it'd be nice to have a break from novel-writing for a bit.

But good luck anyways!

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:41 pm

Respubliko de Libereco wrote:
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Oh, there's a lot I don't have worked out yet. I have a pair of protagonists, a villain, and a rough idea of what they are fighting about, but beyond that I don't know what I'm doing. Basically, the 2nd coming has occurred and a couple of heathen gods are trying to prevent Jesus from ending the world.

Hm.

Have you read Good Omens, by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman?


Yeah. Not that long ago, actually, but I've had the idea for Jesus as a villain kicking around since before that. My aunt likes to complain about how the religious right treats the apocalypse like it's a goal to work toward, and she blames that for some of the bad decisions Christians make regarding foreign policy in the Middle East.

My viewpoint character is the god of smallpox. He lost most of his powers and forgot who he was when smallpox was eradicated, and a psychiatrist set him up with a new life where he thinks he's just a regular human being and he plays guitar in a rock band. He realizes something is wrong when everyone around him is having visions and revelations, and it seems like he is the only one that doesn't have them.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:51 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Goddamn I'm writing for a Christmas Contest, NaNoWriMo, the Fall Short Story Contest on here, and my usual tormentors.

Jesus Christ I need to step up my game. Or step down. Maybe both.

EDIT: Started on NaNo. Maybe this year I'll make it (Ha)

Who else is doing NaNo? Other than those who've already chimed in on this page.

I have a game to write for. So I don't think I can take part.

That and I can never really stick with a story for long. Sadly.
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Postby Laerod » Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:54 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Respubliko de Libereco wrote:Hm.

Have you read Good Omens, by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman?


Yeah. Not that long ago, actually, but I've had the idea for Jesus as a villain kicking around since before that. My aunt likes to complain about how the religious right treats the apocalypse like it's a goal to work toward, and she blames that for some of the bad decisions Christians make regarding foreign policy in the Middle East.

An evangelical blogger I like to read often compares premillenial dispensationalists to Buffyverse cults attempting to summon their great evil onto the world.

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Postby The New World Oceania » Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:05 pm

Those not doing NaNo, November 20th is your last day to improvise this fall.
Submissions look of vaguely high potential. Not only is there tthe story contest, but anyone who drops out of NaNo might be able to submit, and we have a surplus of art from summer.
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Postby Lunas Legion » Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:16 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:Those not doing NaNo, November 20th is your last day to improvise this fall.
Submissions look of vaguely high potential. Not only is there tthe story contest, but anyone who drops out of NaNo might be able to submit, and we have a surplus of art from summer.


Thinking of entering it with my earlier Yellow Submarine idea, but I'm not sure whether I'll be able to finish it within the deadline.
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Postby The High Lords » Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:55 pm

Got 1670 words in NaNoWriMo today! Good first day, if I may say so :D
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Postby Zeinbrad » Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:02 pm

The High Lords wrote:Got 1670 words in NaNoWriMo today! Good first day, if I may say so :D

Get a life! :p
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Postby The High Lords » Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:16 pm

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The High Lords wrote:Got 1670 words in NaNoWriMo today! Good first day, if I may say so :D

Get a life! :p


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Postby Unitaristic Regions » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:05 pm

Would anyone here (maybe) be interested in my plot idea for an Avatar: the Last Airbender fanfic? Or do all of you oppose fanfics out of principle?
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Postby Bontavation » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:08 pm

Unitaristic Regions wrote:Would anyone here (maybe) be interested in my plot idea for an Avatar: the Last Airbender fanfic? Or do all of you oppose fanfics out of principle?


I oppose fanfics and plot outlines out of principle. Sharing an outline of a story doesn't accomplish anything. Outlines are awful. You don't see people buying outlines and having whole libraries full of them. And fanfics are a grey area - there are some good ones, but in general, anyone capable of writing a good fanfic is capable of writing a good original story, which they should be doing instead.

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Postby Respubliko de Libereco » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:31 pm

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Unitaristic Regions wrote:Would anyone here (maybe) be interested in my plot idea for an Avatar: the Last Airbender fanfic? Or do all of you oppose fanfics out of principle?


I oppose fanfics and plot outlines out of principle. Sharing an outline of a story doesn't accomplish anything. Outlines are awful. You don't see people buying outlines and having whole libraries full of them. And fanfics are a grey area - there are some good ones, but in general, anyone capable of writing a good fanfic is capable of writing a good original story, which they should be doing instead.

The point of sharing an outline is to get feedback on an idea at an early stage. It's nothing like posting a (mostly) completed story/poem, but it's not supposed to be.

People don't have closets full of those weird concept drawings that clothing designers make, but it would still make sense to post those sorts of sketches on a clothing design discussion thread.

As for fanfic, I'm not sure I agree. Fanfic can be a way for someone whose main interest is in the process of writing itself, rather than coming up with settings and characters, to exercise their talents and engage in writing. In some ways, it's similar to the practice of retelling pre-existing stories in a new way, something that has been done by many great writers throughout history.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:37 pm

Respubliko de Libereco wrote:
Bontavation wrote:
I oppose fanfics and plot outlines out of principle. Sharing an outline of a story doesn't accomplish anything. Outlines are awful. You don't see people buying outlines and having whole libraries full of them. And fanfics are a grey area - there are some good ones, but in general, anyone capable of writing a good fanfic is capable of writing a good original story, which they should be doing instead.

The point of sharing an outline is to get feedback on an idea at an early stage. It's nothing like posting a (mostly) completed story/poem, but it's not supposed to be.

People don't have closets full of those weird concept drawings that clothing designers make, but it would still make sense to post those sorts of sketches on a clothing design discussion thread.


Bont's probably just tired of all the people who post outlines and then never actually write the stories.
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Postby Torisakia » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:39 pm

So I'm attempting NaNoWriMo again this year (tried last year but my "novel" was is a head-on collision and burned in car fuel in less than a week) but this year I'm writing a novel based on a game I'm developing (it's one I was developing over the summer but delayed it due to IRL issues; I'm going to resume development sometime this week or next). So I shouldn't find it too hard to write, since I had the entire plot, characters, and setting written out months ago.
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Postby Unitaristic Regions » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:09 am

Bontavation wrote:
Unitaristic Regions wrote:Would anyone here (maybe) be interested in my plot idea for an Avatar: the Last Airbender fanfic? Or do all of you oppose fanfics out of principle?


I oppose fanfics and plot outlines out of principle. Sharing an outline of a story doesn't accomplish anything. Outlines are awful. You don't see people buying outlines and having whole libraries full of them. And fanfics are a grey area - there are some good ones, but in general, anyone capable of writing a good fanfic is capable of writing a good original story, which they should be doing instead.


While I get your opposition to fanfics, I don't get your opposition to sharing ideas for a story. It just makes no sense to say that you shouldn't talk about a the gist of a story (and I'm not talking about outlining the entire plot). Most of my ideas get transferred to paper quickly without any dialogue with others, but that's how I work: I like my stories to be exclusively my own. But when we're talking about a fanfic we have a huge chance of creating a story that is less interesting than the original, using cliche plot devices or Mary Suing main characters even in the very basic idea... so I don't get why I shouldn't ask you guys if you like the idea.

I do get why you dislike fanfics, as in that they are not very original. Yes, I get that, but I always write original stories (as in, standalone, to claim they are actually "original" as in special is a tad arrogant) and I don't see the problem with offering tribute to one of my favorite shows.

Respubliko de Libereco wrote:
Bontavation wrote:
I oppose fanfics and plot outlines out of principle. Sharing an outline of a story doesn't accomplish anything. Outlines are awful. You don't see people buying outlines and having whole libraries full of them. And fanfics are a grey area - there are some good ones, but in general, anyone capable of writing a good fanfic is capable of writing a good original story, which they should be doing instead.

The point of sharing an outline is to get feedback on an idea at an early stage. It's nothing like posting a (mostly) completed story/poem, but it's not supposed to be.

People don't have closets full of those weird concept drawings that clothing designers make, but it would still make sense to post those sorts of sketches on a clothing design discussion thread.

As for fanfic, I'm not sure I agree. Fanfic can be a way for someone whose main interest is in the process of writing itself, rather than coming up with settings and characters, to exercise their talents and engage in writing. In some ways, it's similar to the practice of retelling pre-existing stories in a new way, something that has been done by many great writers throughout history.


For me, it's mostly to try and add to piece of worldbuilding I admire and give it a twist. So... might I interest you in a critique of my general idea then?

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Respubliko de Libereco wrote:The point of sharing an outline is to get feedback on an idea at an early stage. It's nothing like posting a (mostly) completed story/poem, but it's not supposed to be.

People don't have closets full of those weird concept drawings that clothing designers make, but it would still make sense to post those sorts of sketches on a clothing design discussion thread.


Bont's probably just tired of all the people who post outlines and then never actually write the stories.


Generalizing is a crime against humanity. And like I said, I'm not much of an outline poster :). I'm fulling intending to write the story.
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Unitaristic Regions wrote:
Bontavation wrote:
I oppose fanfics and plot outlines out of principle. Sharing an outline of a story doesn't accomplish anything. Outlines are awful. You don't see people buying outlines and having whole libraries full of them. And fanfics are a grey area - there are some good ones, but in general, anyone capable of writing a good fanfic is capable of writing a good original story, which they should be doing instead.


While I get your opposition to fanfics, I don't get your opposition to sharing ideas for a story. It just makes no sense to say that you shouldn't talk about a the gist of a story (and I'm not talking about outlining the entire plot). Most of my ideas get transferred to paper quickly without any dialogue with others, but that's how I work: I like my stories to be exclusively my own. But when we're talking about a fanfic we have a huge chance of creating a story that is less interesting than the original, using cliche plot devices or Mary Suing main characters even in the very basic idea... so I don't get why I shouldn't ask you guys if you like the idea.

I do get why you dislike fanfics, as in that they are not very original. Yes, I get that, but I always write original stories (as in, standalone, to claim they are actually "original" as in special is a tad arrogant) and I don't see the problem with offering tribute to one of my favorite shows.

Respubliko de Libereco wrote:The point of sharing an outline is to get feedback on an idea at an early stage. It's nothing like posting a (mostly) completed story/poem, but it's not supposed to be.

People don't have closets full of those weird concept drawings that clothing designers make, but it would still make sense to post those sorts of sketches on a clothing design discussion thread.

As for fanfic, I'm not sure I agree. Fanfic can be a way for someone whose main interest is in the process of writing itself, rather than coming up with settings and characters, to exercise their talents and engage in writing. In some ways, it's similar to the practice of retelling pre-existing stories in a new way, something that has been done by many great writers throughout history.


For me, it's mostly to try and add to piece of worldbuilding I admire and give it a twist. So... might I interest you in a critique of my general idea then?

Most fanfics I have read were bloody awful.

One had two twins that had been separated for years...get it on.

Did I mention the sister is a axe murder?
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Postby Unitaristic Regions » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:22 am

Zeinbrad wrote:
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While I get your opposition to fanfics, I don't get your opposition to sharing ideas for a story. It just makes no sense to say that you shouldn't talk about a the gist of a story (and I'm not talking about outlining the entire plot). Most of my ideas get transferred to paper quickly without any dialogue with others, but that's how I work: I like my stories to be exclusively my own. But when we're talking about a fanfic we have a huge chance of creating a story that is less interesting than the original, using cliche plot devices or Mary Suing main characters even in the very basic idea... so I don't get why I shouldn't ask you guys if you like the idea.

I do get why you dislike fanfics, as in that they are not very original. Yes, I get that, but I always write original stories (as in, standalone, to claim they are actually "original" as in special is a tad arrogant) and I don't see the problem with offering tribute to one of my favorite shows.



For me, it's mostly to try and add to piece of worldbuilding I admire and give it a twist. So... might I interest you in a critique of my general idea then?

Most fanfics I have read were bloody awful.

One had two twins that had been separated for years...get it on.

Did I mention the sister is a axe murder?


Yeah, most aren't that good. A lot of them are self inserts. But that's exactly why I want people to look at my idea and tell me if it's different or not! :)
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Postby The High Lords » Sun Nov 02, 2014 5:03 am

How do you guys copyright a work in progress...?

I want my story to be out there, as I write it, but I don't want the risk of someone just taking it... Should I even share it, for that reason?
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