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Shanix
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Postby Shanix » Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:32 pm

Ejutla wrote:
NS Nation Name: Ejutla
State of Choice: Kentucky
Leader: Andres Nobili
Government Type: Federal Republic
Calculated Population of State for 2025: 4,375,124
Capital (must be an existing settlement): Lexington
Overall Points: 50
Happiness Points: 10
Economy Points: 18
Military Points/Pop.: 12
Military Tech/Effectiveness Points: 10
Army (+plus marine corps): 4/7
Navy: 3/7
Air Force: 3/7


...this one any better?

Population: Good.
Points: Good.
All over: Great! No corrections needed! If the OP comes back (Or makes me Co-Op), you'll definitely get accepted!
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Postby Ejutla » Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:42 pm

Calmerica wrote:
Ejutla wrote:
NS Nation Name: Ejutla
State of Choice: Kentucky
Leader: Andres Nobili
Government Type: Federal Republic
Calculated Population of State for 2025: 4,375,124
Capital (must be an existing settlement): Lexington
Overall Points: 50
Happiness Points: 10
Economy Points: 18
Military Points/Pop.: 12
Military Tech/Effectiveness Points: 10
Army (+plus marine corps): 4/7
Navy: 3/7
Air Force: 3/7


...this one any better?

You haven't included details, but yeah the numbers add up. Nice job.


I'm having problems with the equations, I don't understand them. Mind helping a brotha out?
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Postby Shanix » Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:49 pm

Ejutla wrote:
Calmerica wrote:You haven't included details, but yeah the numbers add up. Nice job.


I'm having problems with the equations, I don't understand them. Mind helping a brotha out?


I'll break it down for you:
Economy:
Your points for the economy will determine your GDP per capita, and GDP. For every ten million people you have, the value of this point for your GDP per capita will go down by $20. The formula is your population rounded down to the nearest ten million, then divide it by ten million, multiply it by fifteen, then subtract that from $2000.

Your GDP per Capita would be 2,000*Economy Points
GDP=GDP Per Capita*Population




Happiness:
One point for this is 8% happiness. So don't spend over 12.5 points on this, or you'll be wasting valuable points. And Low happiness means riots, revolts, and revolutions, and an unhappy workforce, which could lead to less production. Happiness will go down during wars and the rape of the environment, so if you want to do those spend 12.5 points on this. This will also count for military morale.

Happiness point is 8% Happiness. No more than 12.5 points here.




Military Population:
One point for military population is 0.25% of your population in your military. Don't spend too much on this, an overly large military will kill your economy and reduce happiness. Every 50 million people you have though, it goes down by 0.01%. So, your population rounded down to the nearest fifty-million, divided by fifty-million, and subtract that from 25. And that’s that.

Basically, For every 50 million people you have, every point you spend is .01% less than someone with 50 million less than you. This rule doesn't really matter, you just have to worry about the .25% part




Military Tech and Effectiveness:
This goes up to 19. Remember that this is related to economy, you can't have a good army and tech, but have a weak and shit economy. This is just a rating. These will be further divided into:
Army (+plus marine corps): 0/7
Navy: 0/7
Air Force: 0/7
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Postby Calmerica » Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:57 pm

Wow. Great explanation. I'll update with Mizzou and Kentucky added...

Is this gonna close so we can start RP'ing NPC states as well, because otherwise the mid-US is gonna remain untouched methinks. We have a good solid group right now...
Another RP I was in did that and allowed unclaimed territories to be annexed by players so it could move along with the whole world covered.

EDIT: Here's the new map. Just colored Mizzou and Kentucky as accepted, as no doubt they will be. No other changes at this time.

Two questions on map: Is Idaho aligned with California/ west coast business? Is West Virginia yet aligned?
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Postby Shanix » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:00 pm

Calmerica wrote:Wow. Great explination. I'll update with Mizzou and Kentucky added...

Is this gonna close so we can start RP'ing NPC states as well, because otherwise the mid-US is gonna remain untouched methinks. We have a good solid group right now...
Another RP I was in did that and allowed unclaimed territories to be annexed by players so it could move along with the whole world covered.


I vote that we stop accepting people unless they're worth it.
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Postby Calmerica » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:08 pm

Shanix wrote:
Calmerica wrote:Wow. Great explination. I'll update with Mizzou and Kentucky added...

Is this gonna close so we can start RP'ing NPC states as well, because otherwise the mid-US is gonna remain untouched methinks. We have a good solid group right now...
Another RP I was in did that and allowed unclaimed territories to be annexed by players so it could move along with the whole world covered.


I vote that we stop accepting people unless they're worth it.

Seconded.
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Postby Kangarooia » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:24 pm

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Postby Kangarooia » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:34 pm

Condunum wrote:
Empire of Symphonia wrote:
HAHAHA! New federal government. Did you really think that we are actually turning into US #2? I'd say that about the UoA because their name and how they act is pretty close to it.

If you actually bothered reading the IF Constitution, you'd actually find out that we aren't using the old Fed-style to govern us. And we even made it possible for members to leave.


Symphonia, I know you might be angered, but keep a neutral tone. Tension should not arise outside of the role play, as that will be it's downfall.

Kangarooia: I understand you have no hard feelings, and I understand that this is to offer depth. I have no problem with this being in the RP, I just want it understood that in a real life scenario this would, most likely, not happen.



Ugh, I don't think either of us could predict how an end of the US scenario would happen. New York couldn't give a shit what city you were taking over, we were more upset at the fact you were firing weapons on this continent. Violent tendencies make people react negatively.

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Postby Empire of Symphonia » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:06 pm

Kangarooia wrote:
Condunum wrote:
Symphonia, I know you might be angered, but keep a neutral tone. Tension should not arise outside of the role play, as that will be it's downfall.

Kangarooia: I understand you have no hard feelings, and I understand that this is to offer depth. I have no problem with this being in the RP, I just want it understood that in a real life scenario this would, most likely, not happen.



Ugh, I don't think either of us could predict how an end of the US scenario would happen. New York couldn't give a shit what city you were taking over, we were more upset at the fact you were firing weapons on this continent. Violent tendencies make people react negatively.


Imagine all the guns Americans own....and the fact that America is still the crime capital of the developed world.
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Postby Shanix » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:11 pm

Empire of Symphonia wrote:
Kangarooia wrote:

Ugh, I don't think either of us could predict how an end of the US scenario would happen. New York couldn't give a shit what city you were taking over, we were more upset at the fact you were firing weapons on this continent. Violent tendencies make people react negatively.


Imagine all the guns Americans own....and the fact that America is still the crime capital of the developed world.


Disneyland street crime=Quebec street crime
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Postby Kangarooia » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:22 pm

Shanix wrote:
Empire of Symphonia wrote:
Imagine all the guns Americans own....and the fact that America is still the crime capital of the developed world.


Disneyland street crime=Quebec street crime

I'm talking about organized armed conflict.

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Postby Calmerica » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:38 pm

Kangarooia wrote:
Shanix wrote:
Disneyland street crime=Quebec street crime

I'm talking about organized armed conflict.

America would go to hell. This is way better than what would go down. Just suppose this California split happens people are talking about - that right there might bring war if whoever is President doesn't calm it down. And think about it- timed right, this could happen as a new President steps into office. SHITSTORM.
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Postby Condunum » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:55 pm

Calmerica wrote:
Kangarooia wrote: I'm talking about organized armed conflict.

America would go to hell. This is way better than what would go down. Just suppose this California split happens people are talking about - that right there might bring war if whoever is President doesn't calm it down. And think about it- timed right, this could happen as a new President steps into office. SHITSTORM.

Possibly. There was this one event, 140 years ago. The war only started because the north was too stubborn to leave a fort. It wasn't as bad as this would be, but, had the north not held that fort, we could have a CSA.
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Postby Shanix » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:59 pm

Condunum wrote:
Calmerica wrote:America would go to hell. This is way better than what would go down. Just suppose this California split happens people are talking about - that right there might bring war if whoever is President doesn't calm it down. And think about it- timed right, this could happen as a new President steps into office. SHITSTORM.

Possibly. There was this one event, 140 years ago. The war only started because the north was too stubborn to leave a fort. It wasn't as bad as this would be, but, had the north not held that fort, we could have a CSA.


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Postby Condunum » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:01 pm

Shanix wrote:
Condunum wrote:Possibly. There was this one event, 140 years ago. The war only started because the north was too stubborn to leave a fort. It wasn't as bad as this would be, but, had the north not held that fort, we could have a CSA.


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Sorry, I'm living in 200X. When the better History Channel Specials about that were out :P
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Postby Calmerica » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:04 pm

What a minute... you're saying you wanted the South? Or just there was a possibility of them winning?

And yeah I know your point, its just interesting to see how it plays out in modern day.
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Postby Condunum » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:11 pm

Calmerica wrote:What a minute... you're saying you wanted the South? Or just there was a possibility of them winning?

And yeah I know your point, its just interesting to see how it plays out in modern day.


I'm not saying that, if that was a serious question. What I'm saying is that American history class is a loaded, propaganda filled sack of shit, that couldn't give real facts if a History book shat on it's face, and then preached for three hours, while American history licked the shit up. That the war was, in reality, not the south's fault.
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Postby Calmerica » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:23 pm

Condunum wrote:
Calmerica wrote:What a minute... you're saying you wanted the South? Or just there was a possibility of them winning?

And yeah I know your point, its just interesting to see how it plays out in modern day.


I'm not saying that, if that was a serious question. What I'm saying is that American history class is a loaded, propaganda filled sack of shit, that couldn't give real facts if a History book shat on it's face, and then preached for three hours, while American history licked the shit up. That the war was, in reality, not the south's fault.

Oh I see.

Have a problem in your history class did you? :blink:
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Postby Shanix » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:23 pm

Condunum wrote:
Calmerica wrote:What a minute... you're saying you wanted the South? Or just there was a possibility of them winning?

And yeah I know your point, its just interesting to see how it plays out in modern day.


I'm not saying that, if that was a serious question. What I'm saying is that American history class is a loaded, propaganda filled sack of shit, that couldn't give real facts if a History book shat on it's face, and then preached for three hours, while American history licked the shit up. That the war was, in reality, not the south's fault.


Dude, I'm in the south. And it was of equal side's fault. The North because they wouldn't offer payment for the lost property of the Southern slave owners, and the South because they had slaves. You don't blame the US for Pearl Harbor, do you?
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Postby Calmerica » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:28 pm

Shanix wrote:
Condunum wrote:
I'm not saying that, if that was a serious question. What I'm saying is that American history class is a loaded, propaganda filled sack of shit, that couldn't give real facts if a History book shat on it's face, and then preached for three hours, while American history licked the shit up. That the war was, in reality, not the south's fault.


Dude, I'm in the south. And it was of equal side's fault. The North because they wouldn't offer payment for the lost property of the Southern slave owners, and the South because they had slaves. You don't blame the US for Pearl Harbor, do you?


The North, to me, represents what America is today - a self righteous bitch who likes to get involved in others' business and say "FOR DEMOCRACY, ASSHATS". The South, to me, represented the rest of the world saying - "Let us have our rights, and here's a finger for what we think of you in our business". Because America somehow had to be united, there was a war. That's what I take away from it... but since I was schooled in Britain through American history, and they take a HORRIBLY bias view against the Americans, especially the North, that may be crap.
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Postby Shanix » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:30 pm

Calmerica wrote:
Shanix wrote:
Dude, I'm in the south. And it was of equal side's fault. The North because they wouldn't offer payment for the lost property of the Southern slave owners, and the South because they had slaves. You don't blame the US for Pearl Harbor, do you?


The North, to me, represents what America is today - a self righteous bitch who likes to get involved in others' business and say "FOR DEMOCRACY, ASSHATS". The South, to me, represented the rest of the world saying - "Let us have our rights, and here's a finger for what we think of you in our business". Because America somehow had to be united, there was a war. That's what I take away from it... but since I was schooled in Britain through American history, and they take a HORRIBLY bias view against the Americans, especially the North, that may be crap.


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Postby Calmerica » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:34 pm

Shanix wrote:
Calmerica wrote:
The North, to me, represents what America is today - a self righteous bitch who likes to get involved in others' business and say "FOR DEMOCRACY, ASSHATS". The South, to me, represented the rest of the world saying - "Let us have our rights, and here's a finger for what we think of you in our business". Because America somehow had to be united, there was a war. That's what I take away from it... but since I was schooled in Britain through American history, and they take a HORRIBLY bias view against the Americans, especially the North, that may be crap.


Everything in bold is true.

Hey hey, I got the gist of it. Britain isn't so crazy after all (But yes it is).
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Postby Condunum » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:35 pm

Shanix wrote:
Condunum wrote:
I'm not saying that, if that was a serious question. What I'm saying is that American history class is a loaded, propaganda filled sack of shit, that couldn't give real facts if a History book shat on it's face, and then preached for three hours, while American history licked the shit up. That the war was, in reality, not the south's fault.


Dude, I'm in the south. And it was of equal side's fault. The North because they wouldn't offer payment for the lost property of the Southern slave owners, and the South because they had slaves. You don't blame the US for Pearl Harbor, do you?


How does that compare? If you feel like distorting the facts of that issue, which I'm not saying you would, it was, given the trade sanction that america imposed. Really though, they were justified sanctions. What I was saying is that the south did start the war, but because a Union fort in the middle of Charleston harbor would not surrender. I don't support the south, and never have. I'm just using it as an example for the idiocy of how american history is taught.
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Postby Shanix » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:35 pm

Calmerica wrote:
Shanix wrote:
Everything in bold is true.

Hey hey, I got the gist of it. Britain isn't so crazy after all (But yes it is).


You guys still pissed? I mean, its just tea...
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Postby Aquitayne » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:36 pm

Shanix wrote:
Calmerica wrote:Hey hey, I got the gist of it. Britain isn't so crazy after all (But yes it is).


You guys still pissed? I mean, its just tea...


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