New Breakup of the USA OOC

[Empire of Symphonia]

By the way, I'm neutral/slighty pro-government. I don't like what they do a lot, because America has a lot more problems it needs to fix. Sure terrorists needs to be watched and prevented, but we can't go into every place to defeat terrorism. America has debt problems, stagnant economy which is rapidly losing to China, stagnant government (thanks to everyone not compromising and getting stuff done), and just loss of self-confidence.

I believe that America can still be better than China and all the other nations anti-American people spout. I just want our leaders to realize that they need to take a step back and see what they've done to us.

That's one thing I never got. How does installing cameras in public places protect us from terrorists? Just wonderin', not trying to cause a fuss.

I thought those were for domestic security, like what they do in Taiwan.......

[Empire of Symphonia]

HAHAHA! New federal government. Did you really think that we are actually turning into US #2? I'd say that about the UoA because their name and how they act is pretty close to it.

If you actually bothered reading the IF Constitution, you'd actually find out that we aren't using the old Fed-style to govern us. And we even made it possible for members to leave.

Symphonia, I know you might be angered, but keep a neutral tone. Tension should not arise outside of the role play, as that will be it's downfall.

Kangarooia: I understand you have no hard feelings, and I understand that this is to offer depth. I have no problem with this being in the RP, I just want it understood that in a real life scenario this would, most likely, not happen.

I'm not mad. I'm pointing things out.

[Condunum]

By the way, I'm neutral/slighty pro-government. I don't like what they do a lot, because America has a lot more problems it needs to fix. Sure terrorists needs to be watched and prevented, but we can't go into every place to defeat terrorism. America has debt problems, stagnant economy which is rapidly losing to China, stagnant government (thanks to everyone not compromising and getting stuff done), and just loss of self-confidence.

I believe that America can still be better than China and all the other nations anti-American people spout. I just want our leaders to realize that they need to take a step back and see what they've done to us.

While I agree with quite a bit of this, I want to state something about terrorism. While it is detestable, terrorism is one of the smallest threats to the lives of american people. In fact, we have lost the war on terror. The moment we began our fearful increase of security, Terrorist had one. Their goal is to instill terror into the minds of people. They have done just that. Now that may make you want to kill terrorists, but the fact of the matter is, you are more likely to be struck by lighting than be killed, or even harmed, by a terrorist.

You assume to quickly. I detest the American government. I believe it is too conservative. Even when democratic, it is conservative, as American politics is unusually right-leaning. Now, that being said, you are also assuming that human beings are reasonable. We are, most often, highly irrational beings. When something acts against us, we want revenge. It's ingrained into our psyches from birth. We are evil, detestable beings that occasionally aspire to do something less-than-evil. So, as irrational, evil beings, our political opinion would not matter if welfare, social security, healthcare, employment, law, and everything government run was either canceled or turned over to the state government, which would not be able to handle all of these responsibilities so soon. As a result, we would want revenge. After a few months, the knowledge of someone else carrying out this act for us would be satisfactory, instead of detestable.

TL;DR Version Made by Shanix:

I don't like The US Gov't. Humans like to get revenge. And they did stuff that warranted my revenge.

Yeah, I guess that sums it up.

[Shanix]

That's one thing I never got. How does installing cameras in public places protect us from terrorists? Just wonderin', not trying to cause a fuss.

I thought those were for domestic security, like what they do in Taiwan.......

But its not really protecting us, is it?

[Condunum]

Symphonia, I know you might be angered, but keep a neutral tone. Tension should not arise outside of the role play, as that will be it's downfall.

Kangarooia: I understand you have no hard feelings, and I understand that this is to offer depth. I have no problem with this being in the RP, I just want it understood that in a real life scenario this would, most likely, not happen.

I'm not mad. I'm pointing things out.

Understood. Just be careful not to word things in a way that could be taken offensively. Or use the smilies to lighten things

[Empire of Symphonia]

By the way, I'm neutral/slighty pro-government. I don't like what they do a lot, because America has a lot more problems it needs to fix. Sure terrorists needs to be watched and prevented, but we can't go into every place to defeat terrorism. America has debt problems, stagnant economy which is rapidly losing to China, stagnant government (thanks to everyone not compromising and getting stuff done), and just loss of self-confidence.

I believe that America can still be better than China and all the other nations anti-American people spout. I just want our leaders to realize that they need to take a step back and see what they've done to us.

While I agree with quite a bit of this, I want to state something about terrorism. While it is detestable, terrorism is one of the smallest threats to the lives of american people. In fact, we have lost the war on terror. The moment we began our fearful increase of security, Terrorist had one. Their goal is to instill terror into the minds of people. They have done just that. Now that may make you want to kill terrorists, but the fact of the matter is, you are more likely to be struck by lighting than be killed, or even harmed, by a terrorist.

Thats part of it. From what I hear, the Republicans use this as part of their support in their agenda and such. Another reason why I webt from supporter of Bush/Republicans to "Despise Level 50".

[Condunum]

I thought those were for domestic security, like what they do in Taiwan.......

But its not really protecting us, is it?

Actually, it is. From crime in the local area, at least. Just recently, a camera outside of a convenience store in Baltimore was used to positively identify a man who kidnapped a woman and her child in her own car.

[Condunum]

While I agree with quite a bit of this, I want to state something about terrorism. While it is detestable, terrorism is one of the smallest threats to the lives of american people. In fact, we have lost the war on terror. The moment we began our fearful increase of security, Terrorist had one. Their goal is to instill terror into the minds of people. They have done just that. Now that may make you want to kill terrorists, but the fact of the matter is, you are more likely to be struck by lighting than be killed, or even harmed, by a terrorist.

Thats part of it. From what I hear, the Republicans use this as part of their support in their agenda and such. Another reason why I webt from supporter of Bush/Republicans to "Despise Level 50".

Question mark? I don't quite understand.

[Shanix]

BACK TO RUNNING OUR STATES!

[Empire of Symphonia]

BACK TO RUNNING OUR STATES!

Yes sir. I hate talking about politics......

[Condunum]

BACK TO RUNNING OUR STATES!

Yes sir. I hate talking about politics......

*a tear rolls down my cheek* But I like having intelligent conversation with friends... Fuck, I hate politics too, what am I talking about? That's why I dilute it with psychology.

I'll be waiting for something concerning Maryland. In the mean time, Shanix, how about we being those trade relations? I want to build the Maryland version of the La Grande Arch de Defense, but I need to have a trade surplus first.

[Shanix]

Yes sir. I hate talking about politics......

*a tear rolls down my cheek* But I like having intelligent conversation with friends... Fuck, I hate politics too, what am I talking about? That's why I dilute it with psychology.

I'll be waiting for something concerning Maryland. In the mean time, Shanix, how about we being those trade relations? I want to build the Maryland version of the La Grande Arch de Defense, but I need to have a trade surplus first.

Ah! Yes, trade discussions we shall.
Well, I'm the breadbasket of the Imperial Federation, so I sell you both food. In exchange, you give me similar amounts of tobacco (1 ton of tobacco is 1.5 tonnes of food). I process the tobacco into cigarettes and cigars. 1 ton of cigarettes is equivalent to 2.25 tonnes of food, and 1 ton of cigars is equal to five tonnes of food. I use ton because It's what I'm most accustomed to (I play <game> Can't say, mods'll kill me), but you get the gist of it. And this bartering is only to be used until the Imperial Credit can finally be implemented. Good, bad, ja?

[Empire of Symphonia]

Gah. My parents are forcing me to swimming today. So long people. Until later tonight or tommorow.

[Shanix]

Gah. My parents are forcing me to swimming today. So long people. Until later tonight or tommorow.

Layters broseph.

[Sanguinthium]

NS Nation Name: Sanguinthium
State of Choice: Mississippi
Leader: Koba Ashimov
Government Type: Communist Dictatorship
Calculated Population of State for 2025: (I'll do this for you) ~3,667,297
Capital (must be an existing settlement): Jackson
Overall Points: 50
Happiness Points: 4/7
Economy Points: 4/7
Military Points/Pop.: 3%
Military Tech/Effectiveness Points: 5/7
Army (+plus marine corps): 6/7
Navy: 3/7
Air Force: 5/7

[Shanix]

NS Nation Name: Sanguinthium
State of Choice: Mississippi
Leader: Koba Ashimov
Government Type: Communist Dictatorship
Calculated Population of State for 2025: (I'll do this for you) ~3,667,297
Capital (must be an existing settlement): Jackson
Overall Points: 50
Happiness Points: 4
Economy Points: 4
Military Points/Pop.: 12
Military Tech/Effectiveness Points: 14
Army (+plus marine corps): 6/7
Navy: 3/7
Air Force: 5/7

34 points mate. Spend some more. (I suggest max happiness and then rest into economy)

[Condunum]

*a tear rolls down my cheek* But I like having intelligent conversation with friends... Fuck, I hate politics too, what am I talking about? That's why I dilute it with psychology.

I'll be waiting for something concerning Maryland. In the mean time, Shanix, how about we being those trade relations? I want to build the Maryland version of the La Grande Arch de Defense, but I need to have a trade surplus first.

Ah! Yes, trade discussions we shall.
Well, I'm the breadbasket of the Imperial Federation, so I sell you both food. In exchange, you give me similar amounts of tobacco (1 ton of tobacco is 1.5 tonnes of food). I process the tobacco into cigarettes and cigars. 1 ton of cigarettes is equivalent to 2.25 tonnes of food, and 1 ton of cigars is equal to five tonnes of food. I use ton because It's what I'm most accustomed to (I play <game> Can't say, mods'll kill me), but you get the gist of it. And this bartering is only to be used until the Imperial Credit can finally be implemented. Good, bad, ja?

TG me the name of the game

I say good. I'll have to RP some sort of food shortage, though, because I mistakenly made the New Maryland farming industry too efficient.

[Sanguinthium]

NS Nation Name: Sanguinthium
State of Choice: Mississippi
Leader: Koba Ashimov
Government Type: Communist Dictatorship
Calculated Population of State for 2025: (I'll do this for you) ~3,667,297
Capital (must be an existing settlement): Jackson
Overall Points: 34
Happiness Points: 6/7
Economy Points: 7/7
Military Points/Pop.: 3%
Military Tech/Effectiveness Points: 7/7
Army (+plus marine corps): 6/7
Navy: 3/7
Air Force: 5/7

[Calmerica]

Ive been trying to help Illinois, but yeah hes new. As to the IF I figured theyd never accept him lol.

And the point about hiding, its true. Were bigger. That was the point I was making. We could mutually agree to war for teh lulz, or see how it plays out. No dif to me.

As to Mississippi - yeah fuck that.

Then why'd you make a post about it? HMM!? WHY'D YOU GO AHEAD AND BREAK THE RULE MAN!?

I know. Thats my bad. I didn't know whether people would ignore, forgive, or whatever.

Its good to have Illinois gone. They were detracting from this whole business. I was ready to help them but clearly it was over the line.

I apologize for the part I played in assisting that godmod.

[Mexico and its People]

Hey guys, I'm going to be gone tonight and Saturday. Staying at a friend's lakehouse.

However, I just wanted to conclude that the Union of America (formerly the Great Lakes Alliance) includes:

-Minnesota
-Indiana
-Michigan
-New York
-Pennsylvania

We look forward to adding:

-Arizona

And we would like these nations to join, if possible:

-Ohio
-Wisconsin
-Maryland (had a previous conversation with you, I do not know if you're still going to join)

I'm Wisconsin. Already in.

[Shanix]

NS Nation Name: Sanguinthium
State of Choice: Mississippi
Leader: Koba Ashimov
Government Type: Communist Dictatorship
Calculated Population of State for 2025: (I'll do this for you) ~3,667,297
Capital (must be an existing settlement): Jackson
Overall Points: 34 50
Happiness Points: 6/7
Economy Points: 7/7
Military Points/Pop.: 3%
Military Tech/Effectiveness Points: 7/7
Army (+plus marine corps): 6/7
Navy: 3/7
Air Force: 5/7

No, you use up all your points.

[Calmerica]

Hey guys, I'm going to be gone tonight and Saturday. Staying at a friend's lakehouse.

However, I just wanted to conclude that the Union of America (formerly the Great Lakes Alliance) includes:

-Minnesota
-Indiana
-Michigan
-New York
-Pennsylvania

We look forward to adding:

-Arizona

And we would like these nations to join, if possible:

-Ohio
-Wisconsin
-Maryland (had a previous conversation with you, I do not know if you're still going to join)

I'm Wisconsin. Already in.

So is Ohio and Louisiana... I thought we talked about that Vitius? Anyhow, the map is being updated with Illinois gone and NJ switching. Also, name updates. Give me a minute...

[Sanguinthium]

Sanguinthium
State of Choice: Mississippi
Leader: Koba Ashimov
Government Type: Communist Dictatorship
Calculated Population of State for 2025: (I'll do this for you) ~3,667,297
Capital (must be an existing settlement): Jackson
Overall Points: 50
Happiness Points: 11
Economy Points: 7/7
Military Points/Pop.: 3%
Military Tech/Effectiveness Points: 14
Army (+plus marine corps): 7/7
Navy: 4/7
Air Force: 7/7[/quote]
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[Calmerica]

Sanguinthium
State of Choice: Mississippi
Leader: Koba Ashimov
Government Type: Communist Dictatorship
Calculated Population of State for 2025: (I'll do this for you) ~3,667,297
Capital (must be an existing settlement): Jackson
Overall Points: 50
Happiness Points: 11
Economy Points: 7/7
Military Points/Pop.: 3%
Military Tech/Effectiveness Points: 14
Army (+plus marine corps): 7/7
Navy: 4/7
Air Force: 7/7

YOU HAVE 14 MILITARY POINTS.

Army, Navy, and Air Force divide that up

[Shanix]

Sanguinthium
State of Choice: Mississippi
Leader: Koba Ashimov
Government Type: Communist Dictatorship
Calculated Population of State for 2025: (I'll do this for you) ~3,667,297
Capital (must be an existing settlement): Jackson
Overall Points: 50
Happiness Points: 11
Economy Points: 7/7 There is no limit to economy points. So it's not 7/7, it's just 32, 19, whatever you want.
Military Points/Pop.: 3% No Percentages unless there's a number of points and a population. 12 points
Military Tech/Effectiveness Points: 14 This is the numbers after this one added up. So yours would be 18.
Army (+plus marine corps): 7/7
Navy: 4/7
Air Force: 7/7

48
Still needing to put 2 points somewhere.
If you want my advice, your military tech points shouldn't exceed your economy points.