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Shanix
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Postby Shanix » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:27 pm

Condunum wrote:
Shanix wrote:
I wasn't.


ODAYUM.

Shanix, what was your exchange rate for tobacco products we discussed? For outside export, I mean. Me and Aquitayne have been talking about oil trade, if the IF doesn't secure oil, and tobacco would be a perfect object of trade, given our abundance of it, and their lack of it.

Edit: I back tracked, and we didn't decide a USD price for the products.


I know, I considered that we'd barter until the Imperial Credit (?) was introduced. The exchange was
1 ton of tobacco is 1.5 tonnes of food
1 ton of cigarettes is equivalent to 2.25 tonnes of food
1 ton of cigars is equal to 5 tonnes of food

To put money on it, I'll use today's exchange system, which is
$40,000 for one ton of tobacco
$14,545 for a ton of cigarettes
$~56,000 for a ton of cigars (Though no one sells a ton of cigars)

Yeah...I vote we barter.
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Postby Aquitayne » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:28 pm

Shanix wrote:
Condunum wrote:
ODAYUM.

Shanix, what was your exchange rate for tobacco products we discussed? For outside export, I mean. Me and Aquitayne have been talking about oil trade, if the IF doesn't secure oil, and tobacco would be a perfect object of trade, given our abundance of it, and their lack of it.

Edit: I back tracked, and we didn't decide a USD price for the products.


I know, I considered that we'd barter until the Imperial Credit (?) was introduced. The exchange was
1 ton of tobacco is 1.5 tonnes of food
1 ton of cigarettes is equivalent to 2.25 tonnes of food
1 ton of cigars is equal to 5 tonnes of food

To put money on it, I'll use today's exchange system, which is
$40,000 for one ton of tobacco
$14,545 for a ton of cigarettes
$~56,000 for a ton of cigars (Though no one sells a ton of cigars)

Yeah...I vote we barter.


I vote no one in hell's gunna pay for that...
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Postby Shanix » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:33 pm

Aquitayne wrote:
Shanix wrote:
I know, I considered that we'd barter until the Imperial Credit (?) was introduced. The exchange was
1 ton of tobacco is 1.5 tonnes of food
1 ton of cigarettes is equivalent to 2.25 tonnes of food
1 ton of cigars is equal to 5 tonnes of food

To put money on it, I'll use today's exchange system, which is
$40,000 for one ton of tobacco
$14,545 for a ton of cigarettes
$~56,000 for a ton of cigars (Though no one sells a ton of cigars)

Yeah...I vote we barter.


I vote no one in hell's gunna pay for that...


That's modern exchange dude...
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Postby Condunum » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:34 pm

Shanix wrote:
Condunum wrote:
ODAYUM.

Shanix, what was your exchange rate for tobacco products we discussed? For outside export, I mean. Me and Aquitayne have been talking about oil trade, if the IF doesn't secure oil, and tobacco would be a perfect object of trade, given our abundance of it, and their lack of it.

Edit: I back tracked, and we didn't decide a USD price for the products.


I know, I considered that we'd barter until the Imperial Credit (?) was introduced. The exchange was
1 ton of tobacco is 1.5 tonnes of food
1 ton of cigarettes is equivalent to 2.25 tonnes of food
1 ton of cigars is equal to 5 tonnes of food

To put money on it, I'll use today's exchange system, which is
$40,000 for one ton of tobacco
$14,545 for a ton of cigarettes
$~56,000 for a ton of cigars (Though no one sells a ton of cigars)

Yeah...I vote we barter.


Right. so that would, by Aquitayne's price, thats 500 barrels of oil per ton of tobacco, which we won't trade, as it's raw tobacco, 182 barrels of oil per ton of cigarettes, and 700 barrels of oil per ton of cigars. We'll trade those by the crate, yes?

Aquitayne: Yes, actually they would. One ton of cigarettes is a lot of cigarettes. Like, a lot.
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Postby Shanix » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:35 pm

Condunum wrote:
Shanix wrote:
I know, I considered that we'd barter until the Imperial Credit (?) was introduced. The exchange was
1 ton of tobacco is 1.5 tonnes of food
1 ton of cigarettes is equivalent to 2.25 tonnes of food
1 ton of cigars is equal to 5 tonnes of food

To put money on it, I'll use today's exchange system, which is
$40,000 for one ton of tobacco
$14,545 for a ton of cigarettes
$~56,000 for a ton of cigars (Though no one sells a ton of cigars)

Yeah...I vote we barter.


Right. so that would, by Aquitayne's price, thats 500 barrels of oil per ton of tobacco, which we won't trade, as it's raw tobacco, 182 barrels of oil per ton of cigarettes, and 700 barrels of oil per ton of cigars. We'll trade those by the crate, yes?

Aquitayne: Yes, actually they would. One ton of cigarettes is a lot of cigarettes. Like, a lot.


Pack of Cigarettes: 1.1 Ounces.
1 pack has how many cigarettes in it?
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Postby Aquitayne » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:38 pm

Wow... Alrighty then. Sorry, I'm not huge on the smoking industry. Lol
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Postby Empire of Symphonia » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:40 pm

Aquitayne wrote:Wow... Alrighty then. Sorry, I'm not huge on the smoking industry. Lol


Neither am I, but there are still a lot of people who smoke. Regardless of what you want or not......
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Postby Shanix » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:41 pm

Empire of Symphonia wrote:
Aquitayne wrote:Wow... Alrighty then. Sorry, I'm not huge on the smoking industry. Lol


Neither am I, but there are still a lot of people who smoke. Regardless of what you want or not......


And thats why North Carolina always wins.
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Postby Condunum » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:42 pm

Shanix wrote:
Condunum wrote:
Right. so that would, by Aquitayne's price, thats 500 barrels of oil per ton of tobacco, which we won't trade, as it's raw tobacco, 182 barrels of oil per ton of cigarettes, and 700 barrels of oil per ton of cigars. We'll trade those by the crate, yes?

Aquitayne: Yes, actually they would. One ton of cigarettes is a lot of cigarettes. Like, a lot.


Pack of Cigarettes: 1.1 Ounces.
1 pack has how many cigarettes in it?


Twenty.

Empire of Symphonia wrote:
Aquitayne wrote:Wow... Alrighty then. Sorry, I'm not huge on the smoking industry. Lol


Neither am I, but there are still a lot of people who smoke. Regardless of what you want or not......

I don't like it, but I recognize that it has one of the largest potentials for profit available.
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Postby Shanix » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:43 pm

Condunum wrote:
Shanix wrote:
Pack of Cigarettes: 1.1 Ounces.
1 pack has how many cigarettes in it?


Twenty.


So, 20 cigs per pack, 1,400 packs per ton, That's, what, 28,000 cigs per ton? Thats a lot of smoking.
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Postby Empire of Symphonia » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:45 pm

Condunum wrote:
Shanix wrote:
Pack of Cigarettes: 1.1 Ounces.
1 pack has how many cigarettes in it?


Twenty.

Empire of Symphonia wrote:
Neither am I, but there are still a lot of people who smoke. Regardless of what you want or not......

I don't like it, but I recognize that it has one of the largest potentials for profit available.



Hahaha. Virginia is mostly services and government, though we still do mine coal and have agriculture similar to that of Maryland.
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Postby Aquitayne » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:48 pm

http://www.tobaccofreekids.org/research/factsheets/pdf/0125.pdf

Might not be needing all that Tobacco. Lol
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Postby Empire of Symphonia » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:48 pm

By the way Shanix, are you going to agree with IF Resolution #2? I was working on the Constitution for pretty much the whole day. :p ('Crazy child' as my mother said)

Oh and I might not be able to semd the draft to you until tommorow. I got a party because my parents invited 5 families over to my house tonight.
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Postby Condunum » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:50 pm

Shanix wrote:
Condunum wrote:
Twenty.


So, 20 cigs per pack, 1,400 packs per ton, That's, what, 28,000 cigs per ton? Thats a lot of smoking.


How many tons of cigarettes come from one ton of tobacco?
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Postby Shanix » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:54 pm

Aquitayne wrote:http://www.tobaccofreekids.org/research/factsheets/pdf/0125.pdf

Might not be needing all that Tobacco. Lol


NC has DOUBLE the Acreage of Tobacco. Just because there's more farms means nothing. :palm:
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Postby Chetssaland » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:56 pm

Chetssaland wrote:So much happenned, haven't been online since my friends keep coming to my house at 2 AM to take me to Taco Bell because it's fun to break curfew without a license...

It appears I'm out of an alliance, but I couldn't find anything about it. Someone explain to me what's going on!

Also, heads up to everyone: I'll be in Cleveland in Thursday of next week through Tuesday.


#3.
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Postby Shanix » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:58 pm

Chetssaland wrote:
Chetssaland wrote:So much happenned, haven't been online since my friends keep coming to my house at 2 AM to take me to Taco Bell because it's fun to break curfew without a license...

It appears I'm out of an alliance, but I couldn't find anything about it. Someone explain to me what's going on!

Also, heads up to everyone: I'll be in Cleveland in Thursday of next week through Tuesday.


#3.

*start ghost noises*
Using my scary Co-Op Powers....
You are hereby invited into the Imperial Federation...
Now shut it.....*end ghost noises*
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Postby Aquitayne » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:58 pm

Shanix wrote:
Aquitayne wrote:http://www.tobaccofreekids.org/research/factsheets/pdf/0125.pdf

Might not be needing all that Tobacco. Lol


NC has DOUBLE the Acreage of Tobacco. Just because there's more farms means nothing. :palm:


I couldn't delete the post when I realized that... xD
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Postby Chetssaland » Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:00 pm

Shanix wrote:
Chetssaland wrote:
#3.

*start ghost noises*
Using my scary Co-Op Powers....
You are hereby invited into the Imperial Federation...
Now shut it.....*end ghost noises*


That's not what I wanted.

What is going on right now. Like, give me an overview or something.

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Postby Aquitayne » Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:02 pm

Chetssaland wrote:
Shanix wrote:*start ghost noises*
Using my scary Co-Op Powers....
You are hereby invited into the Imperial Federation...
Now shut it.....*end ghost noises*


That's not what I wanted.

What is going on right now. Like, give me an overview or something.


UoA is invading Florida and taking all teh oilz. :D
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16:08 GHawkins I continue to be amazed by Aq's ability to fuck up his own name.

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Postby Condunum » Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:04 pm

Aquitayne wrote:
Shanix wrote:
NC has DOUBLE the Acreage of Tobacco. Just because there's more farms means nothing. :palm:


I couldn't delete the post when I realized that... xD

Research fail.

I think Connecticut could, on it's own, support the tobacco needs of one city, and not even a large one. Pennsylvania could support Harrisburg's need, and it's suburb's needs. (Mechanicsburg, Camp Hill, etc.)
So yes, you need us, since we hold the two top acreages in that list xD Too bad Maryland isn't on there. But then, it's a small state, and is more industrial than farmland.
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Postby Shanix » Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:06 pm

Condunum wrote:
Aquitayne wrote:
I couldn't delete the post when I realized that... xD

Research fail.

I think Connecticut could, on it's own, support the tobacco needs of one city, and not even a large one. Pennsylvania could support Harrisburg's need, and it's suburb's needs. (Mechanicsburg, Camp Hill, etc.)
So yes, you need us, since we hold the two top acreages in that list xD Too bad Maryland isn't on there. But then, it's a small state, and is more industrial than farmland.


Considering that, would it be better for NC to do the harvesting and you do the processing?
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Postby Condunum » Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:13 pm

Aquitayne wrote:
Chetssaland wrote:
That's not what I wanted.

What is going on right now. Like, give me an overview or something.


UoA is invading Florida and taking all teh oilz. :D


*turns into slayer's vocalist, Tom Araya* It's all about the mother fuckin' oil! Regardless of the flag upon it's soil! AMERICOONN! Stupidest song ever. I love slayer, but the lyrics to this song sucks.

Shanix wrote:
Condunum wrote:Research fail.

I think Connecticut could, on it's own, support the tobacco needs of one city, and not even a large one. Pennsylvania could support Harrisburg's need, and it's suburb's needs. (Mechanicsburg, Camp Hill, etc.)
So yes, you need us, since we hold the two top acreages in that list xD Too bad Maryland isn't on there. But then, it's a small state, and is more industrial than farmland.


Considering that, would it be better for NC to do the harvesting and you do the processing?


Yes, much better, I think. I need a way to show that Maryland has a stable economy. Also, we have a steel mill that has recently been revitalized, so if anyone have an iron mining industry...
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Postby Aquitayne » Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:17 pm

Condunum wrote:
Aquitayne wrote:
UoA is invading Florida and taking all teh oilz. :D


*turns into slayer's vocalist, Tom Araya* It's all about the mother fuckin' oil! Regardless of the flag upon it's soil! AMERICOONN! Stupidest song ever. I love slayer, but the lyrics to this song sucks.


Win.
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Postby Calmerica » Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:19 pm

Chetssaland wrote:
Shanix wrote:*start ghost noises*
Using my scary Co-Op Powers....
You are hereby invited into the Imperial Federation...
Now shut it.....*end ghost noises*


That's not what I wanted.

What is going on right now. Like, give me an overview or something.


My tg yesterday should've explained it :unsure:
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