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Postby Olthar » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:08 pm

Also: If Malakh was really a girl, then why were the angels all disgusted by her and James? Surely, they'd have known her gender, being that a simple human disguise wouldn't be enough to fool an angel, especially not an archangel. If Malakh though James was gay, then why didn't she say something? Being a girl pretending to be a guy so that you can date a gay man is a colossal dick move, turning Malakh into an incorrigible asshole, making everything James did to her pale in comparison. Yes, James left suddenly, but Malakh was deceiving him about her fucking gender the entire time. Hell, James is really more of a sympathetic character now.
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Postby Olthar » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:11 pm

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Olthar wrote:But he wasn't. Malakh was clearly shown as an angel during arc one and was clearly a man. This retcon creates a plot hole so large I can drive a semi truck through it.

What plot hole?

Malakh was a girl the whole time. So what? That doesn't completely ruin the story. It would ruin the story if I said "Calliel was actually Uriel the whole time".

:palm: The plot hole that Malakh was shown in no uncertain terms as a guy in the first arc! And yes, it does ruin the story, specifically it ruins the Malakh/James romance by Malakh being a huge asshole, as you can see in my last post. More than that, though, is that it dissolves the integrity of the plot faster than cheap toilet paper, which, coincidentally enough, also results in everything getting covered in shit. If the story doesn't even have the standards and decency to keep something as simple as a character's gender consistent, then it deserves no respect.
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Postby New East Ireland » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:12 pm

Olthar wrote:Also: If Malakh was really a girl, then why were the angels all disgusted by her and James? Surely, they'd have known her gender, being that a simple human disguise wouldn't be enough to fool an angel, especially not an archangel. If Malakh though James was gay, then why didn't she say something? Being a girl pretending to be a guy so that you can date a gay man is a colossal dick move, turning Malakh into an incorrigible asshole, making everything James did to her pale in comparison. Yes, James left suddenly, but Malakh was deceiving him about her fucking gender the entire time. Hell, James is really more of a sympathetic character now.

Malakh thinks James was/is homosexual. Seeing that he's homosexual, she decided to disguise herself as a man so she could be with James.

And, only Gabriel and Michael knew about Malakh in the first place. But trying to be with someone you love by pretending to be of the opposite sex does not make anyone an asshole. It isn't the best thing to do, but it doesn't make someone an asshole.
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Postby New East Ireland » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:15 pm

Olthar wrote:
New East Ireland wrote:What plot hole?

Malakh was a girl the whole time. So what? That doesn't completely ruin the story. It would ruin the story if I said "Calliel was actually Uriel the whole time".

:palm: The plot hole that Malakh was shown in no uncertain terms as a guy in the first arc! And yes, it does ruin the story, specifically it ruins the Malakh/James romance by Malakh being a huge asshole, as you can see in my last post. More than that, though, is that it dissolves the integrity of the plot faster than cheap toilet paper, which, coincidentally enough, also results in everything getting covered in shit. If the story doesn't even have the standards and decency to keep something as simple as a character's gender consistent, then it deserves no respect.

Seriously? One bad story idea is going to make you frustrated and mad? I TGed Nightkill about it, and he said it was fine. I make Malakh appear, and I didn't tell anyone about Malakh's appearance because I wanted it to be a surprise, and now you're getting all mad over something we could JUST ERASE. I don't see what the big deal is.
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Postby Olthar » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:18 pm

New East Ireland wrote:
Olthar wrote:Also: If Malakh was really a girl, then why were the angels all disgusted by her and James? Surely, they'd have known her gender, being that a simple human disguise wouldn't be enough to fool an angel, especially not an archangel. If Malakh though James was gay, then why didn't she say something? Being a girl pretending to be a guy so that you can date a gay man is a colossal dick move, turning Malakh into an incorrigible asshole, making everything James did to her pale in comparison. Yes, James left suddenly, but Malakh was deceiving him about her fucking gender the entire time. Hell, James is really more of a sympathetic character now.

Malakh thinks James was/is homosexual. Seeing that he's homosexual, she decided to disguise herself as a man so she could be with James.

And, only Gabriel and Michael knew about Malakh in the first place. But trying to be with someone you love by pretending to be of the opposite sex does not make anyone an asshole. It isn't the best thing to do, but it doesn't make someone an asshole.

YES IT DOES! What about lying to your partner about your true identity isn't assholish behavior? What about deceiving someone into dating you when you know that wouldn't do so normally doesn't make her a huge asshole? Hell, this is one of the worst things you could possibly do in a relationship. I mean, just imagine if this had happened in real life. Pretend a woman disguised herself as a man and dated a gay guy for eighteen years before he found out. How would anyone sympathize with someone who is so clearly an incorrigible asshole?
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Postby New East Ireland » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:19 pm

Olthar wrote:
New East Ireland wrote:Malakh thinks James was/is homosexual. Seeing that he's homosexual, she decided to disguise herself as a man so she could be with James.

And, only Gabriel and Michael knew about Malakh in the first place. But trying to be with someone you love by pretending to be of the opposite sex does not make anyone an asshole. It isn't the best thing to do, but it doesn't make someone an asshole.

YES IT DOES! What about lying to your partner about your true identity isn't assholish behavior? What about deceiving someone into dating you when you know that wouldn't do so normally doesn't make her a huge asshole? Hell, this is one of the worst things you could possibly do in a relationship. I mean, just imagine if this had happened in real life. Pretend a woman disguised herself as a man and dated a gay guy for eighteen years before he found out. How would anyone sympathize with someone who is so clearly an incorrigible asshole?

Honestly, I don't know how the hell you could do that without superpowers. :p
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Postby Olthar » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:23 pm

New East Ireland wrote:
Olthar wrote: :palm: The plot hole that Malakh was shown in no uncertain terms as a guy in the first arc! And yes, it does ruin the story, specifically it ruins the Malakh/James romance by Malakh being a huge asshole, as you can see in my last post. More than that, though, is that it dissolves the integrity of the plot faster than cheap toilet paper, which, coincidentally enough, also results in everything getting covered in shit. If the story doesn't even have the standards and decency to keep something as simple as a character's gender consistent, then it deserves no respect.

Seriously? One bad story idea is going to make you frustrated and mad? I TGed Nightkill about it, and he said it was fine. I make Malakh appear, and I didn't tell anyone about Malakh's appearance because I wanted it to be a surprise, and now you're getting all mad over something we could JUST ERASE. I don't see what the big deal is.

Because it sets a precedent for the future. If you're so willing to blatantly disregard the very story you're writing to add in these nonsensical and absurd plot twists that actively contradict the previous work and open giant plot holes, then what would the future bring? What horrors lay in store down the road? Uriel and Azazel are still alive? There was actually a second Heaven the entire time? Calliel actually won and the entire second arc has been one long fever dream? Crowley is actually a talking sheep? Once you open the floodgate for stupid plot twists, there's no telling what absurdity will come next.
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Postby Olthar » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:25 pm

New East Ireland wrote:
Olthar wrote:YES IT DOES! What about lying to your partner about your true identity isn't assholish behavior? What about deceiving someone into dating you when you know that wouldn't do so normally doesn't make her a huge asshole? Hell, this is one of the worst things you could possibly do in a relationship. I mean, just imagine if this had happened in real life. Pretend a woman disguised herself as a man and dated a gay guy for eighteen years before he found out. How would anyone sympathize with someone who is so clearly an incorrigible asshole?

Honestly, I don't know how the hell you could do that without superpowers. :p

That's not the point. (Though, to be honest, people have actually done such things previously.) The point is that it's incredibly dickish and is one of the worst things you could do to a person.
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Postby New East Ireland » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:26 pm

Olthar wrote:
New East Ireland wrote:Honestly, I don't know how the hell you could do that without superpowers. :p

That's not the point. (Though, to be honest, people have actually done such things previously.) The point is that it's incredibly dickish and is one of the worst things you could do to a person.

Well, at least we're talking about Malakh being an asshole instead of my terrible idea...

Actually, it's Night's fault for allowing such tomfoolery! GET HIM! :p
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:31 pm

Malakh's a guy.

Done. We're retconning everything saying she's a girl. And don't try to blame this on me, NEI.
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Postby Olthar » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:32 pm

New East Ireland wrote:
Olthar wrote:That's not the point. (Though, to be honest, people have actually done such things previously.) The point is that it's incredibly dickish and is one of the worst things you could do to a person.

Well, at least we're talking about Malakh being an asshole instead of my terrible idea...

Actually, it's Night's fault for allowing such tomfoolery! GET HIM! :p

Oh, it's still a terrible idea. I mean, I'm a fan of good plot twists, but this is not good. If the twist had actually been hinted at and was considered throughout the entire story so as not to add such obvious self-contradiction, then I would have liked it. If the twist didn't open up a giant fucking plot hole, I would have been all over it. I would have been praising it. But that is not the case. Instead, the sheer ineptitude with how it was handled just ruined everything. Adding plot twists to a story is like juggling chainsaws. If you do it carefully and skillfully, people will love it and love you for it. If you just clumsily start throwing shit around, everything goes to hell.
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Postby New East Ireland » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:32 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Malakh's a guy.

Done. We're retconning everything saying she's a girl. And don't try to blame this on me, NEI.

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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:43 pm

Malakh has been re-retconned to a dude...a few posts are in need of editing now.
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Postby Yuktova » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:48 pm

Eespecially about the boys in the audience...unless you want to keep it that way ;)
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Postby New East Ireland » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:50 pm

Ok, rewrite everybody! Get that angel chick out of here, bring in the old actor, and let's get this back on track! C'mon everybody, show's not over yet! Chop chop!
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Postby Hardened Pyrokinetics » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:42 pm

... What the FUCK have I missed?
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Postby New East Ireland » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:43 pm

Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:... What the FUCK have I missed?

A hot girl, a rewrite, and now a naked (and very manly) Malakh is talking with Crowley about the Third Metatron.
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Postby Hardened Pyrokinetics » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:45 pm

New East Ireland wrote:
Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:... What the FUCK have I missed?

A hot girl, a rewrite, and now a naked (and very manly) Malakh is talking with Crowley about the Third Metatron.

... What about Timothy, Jojo, and the dude from the school board?
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Postby New East Ireland » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:47 pm

Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:
New East Ireland wrote:A hot girl, a rewrite, and now a naked (and very manly) Malakh is talking with Crowley about the Third Metatron.

... What about Timothy, Jojo, and the dude from the school board?

Timothy and Jojo are fine.

Lind was actually the body that Malakh possessed to be on earth and fight Calliel 18 years ago in Arc 1. When he left that body, a piece of the Metatron that bonded with Malakh after James first fought the Metatron took control of the body and began killing supernaturals, so Malakh left to chase the Third Metatron, who wants to destroy Malakh.
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Postby Hardened Pyrokinetics » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:49 pm

New East Ireland wrote:
Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:... What about Timothy, Jojo, and the dude from the school board?

Timothy and Jojo are fine.

Lind was actually the body that Malakh possessed to be on earth and fight Calliel 18 years ago in Arc 1. When he left that body, a piece of the Metatron that bonded with Malakh after James first fought the Metatron took control of the body and began killing supernaturals, so Malakh left to chase the Third Metatron, who wants to destroy Malakh.

... Why didn't it just plant a bomb in the school?
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Postby Olthar » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:51 pm

New East Ireland wrote:
Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:... What about Timothy, Jojo, and the dude from the school board?

Timothy and Jojo are fine.

Lind was actually the body that Malakh possessed to be on earth and fight Calliel 18 years ago in Arc 1. When he left that body, a piece of the Metatron that bonded with Malakh after James first fought the Metatron took control of the body and began killing supernaturals, so Malakh left to chase the Third Metatron, who wants to destroy Malakh.

If he wanted to kill supernaturals, why did it go after Timothy and Jojo? :eyebrow:
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Postby New East Ireland » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:51 pm

Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:
New East Ireland wrote:Timothy and Jojo are fine.

Lind was actually the body that Malakh possessed to be on earth and fight Calliel 18 years ago in Arc 1. When he left that body, a piece of the Metatron that bonded with Malakh after James first fought the Metatron took control of the body and began killing supernaturals, so Malakh left to chase the Third Metatron, who wants to destroy Malakh.

... Why didn't it just plant a bomb in the school?

I guess it just wanted to try and kill Timothy and Jojo with a charmed gun, but Crowley and it had a little confrontation, then Malakh blew it to God knows where.
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Postby Hardened Pyrokinetics » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:52 pm

New East Ireland wrote:
Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:... Why didn't it just plant a bomb in the school?

I guess it just wanted to try and kill Timothy and Jojo with a charmed gun, but Crowley and it had a little confrontation, then Malakh blew it to God knows where.

k :|

So um, where are Timothy and Anna right now? <<
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Postby New East Ireland » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:53 pm

Olthar wrote:
New East Ireland wrote:Timothy and Jojo are fine.

Lind was actually the body that Malakh possessed to be on earth and fight Calliel 18 years ago in Arc 1. When he left that body, a piece of the Metatron that bonded with Malakh after James first fought the Metatron took control of the body and began killing supernaturals, so Malakh left to chase the Third Metatron, who wants to destroy Malakh.

If he wanted to kill supernaturals, why did it go after Timothy and Jojo? :eyebrow:

I'm going with the idea that he hacked into the school district's website, got a fake ID card, and looked up the two smartest students.
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Postby Alevuss » Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:19 pm

This RP looks like it's getting really good. I'll have to post tomorrow, though. :( (Action/plot is starting, I mean)
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