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[Free South Califas]

I have a wife, thank you.

Touch her, your head will be the first of many on my wall.

"EVERYONE ON HIS MAJESTY'S WIFE!

They can't arrest us all, and we have royal decree to engage in intercourse with her!"

Everyone will woo the queen successively and she will have like 60 million 'friends' outside of His Majesty (and inside of her. Oi, oi!)

Your rape joke is sickening, senator. I wouldn't say disappointing, as I would have had to have some regard for your character first. The other two who participated without questioning the premises (besides Hath), I'm a little disappointed in.

A paternal society has nothing to do with men, it simply means that the ruler tries to help their people rather than simply ruling them. Perhaps you got this confused with a patriarchal society?

In my defence, my computer has a large crack in the screen that blurs the pixels around it.

Don't accept TRG's premise - you were responding to a man who literally said the ideal ruler would be 'a father, a procreator'. You've got nothing to defend or apologize for.

[Free South Califas]

Opposed, institutional sexism is harmful and unacceptable; 'chairman' should be 'chair'.

Opposed to this opposition. Gender neutral terms are sexist as they deny me the use of my gender prefix.

Absolute nonsense, I wouldn't do anything to stop you calling yourself Mr. Chair if you were in that role.

[Free South Califas]

This is great work, Yanalia. Thanks for this. My only issue, a small issue, is with 4.5. I would be more comfortable if there were a stricter limit on audits to prevent abuse, harassment or death-by-audit. I'd suggest adding this:

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a. Such audits, or their frequency, intensity or comprehensiveness, shall be applied equally to all taxpayers, except as specified in this act, or as determined by random or unavoidable factors;
b. Such audits, nor their aspects listed above, shall never be used for the purpose of harassment;  unfairly raising the cost of business in a particular sector; establishing political or philosophical dominance except affirming the necessity for taxes to be raised and paid; or enabling [i]de jure[/i] or [i]de facto[/i] discrimination on the basis of ethnicity, socioeconomic standing, appearance, sexual orientation, gender identity, political preference, or similarly irrelevant or vicious factor; except as unavoidable;
c. A taxpaying entity may only be audited if it has never been audited or if its last audit ended later than two years before. Exceptions may be granted by court order if it is determined that said entity has made substantially inaccurate or dishonest claims to the RCA, and a preponderance of evidence suggests that auditing said entity may be crucial for the proper functions of government to be fully funded and carried out in good faith.

Also, I wonder if there's a legislative solution to the "helicopter method" of tax avoidance, where a rich person or profitable company makes an egregious lie on the tax form (i.e. failing to list a helicopter among their assets) which may be easily discovered during an audit. They pay the back tax (and fine if applicable), and satisfy the auditors' sense that they have done their job, making it harder for them to see smaller problems or admit mistakes. The following comes to mind:

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Section 5...
5. If an audit reveals that some (combination of) asset(s) valued at over $70,000 NSC would have otherwise avoided scrutiny for tax purposes, the tax form and audit documentation shall be analysed by (an)other RCA auditor(s) for the purpose of counteracting the effect of unavoidable cognitive bias by the first auditor(s), specifically determining whether there are likely to be other assets which may avoid scrutiny for tax purposes. If there are, the RCA may conduct a 'secondary audit' of the same entity, focusing on finding and accurately describing those assets so as to determine any necessary taxes or fines.

That sounds good. I'll add them tonight.

Thanks, feel free to add my sponsorship or coauthorship (no pressure) when you do that.

[Kouralia]

"EVERYONE ON HIS MAJESTY'S WIFE!

They can't arrest us all, and we have royal decree to engage in intercourse with her!"

Everyone will woo the queen successively and she will have like 60 million 'friends' outside of His Majesty (and inside of her. Oi, oi!)

Your rape joke is sickening, senator. I wouldn't say disappointing, as I would have had to have some regard for your character first. The other two who participated without questioning the premises (besides Hath), I'm a little disappointed in.

You are aware of what 'woo' means? Yes?

woo
v. wooed, woo·ing, woos
v.tr.
1. To seek the affection of with intent to romance.
2.
a. To seek to achieve; try to gain.
b. To tempt or invite.
3. To entreat, solicit, or importune.

v.intr.
To court a woman.

At no point do any of these things imply a lack of consent... Which is ever so slightly necessary for rape to occur, so do not slander me by implying my intentions were anything but what they clearly were.

[Free South Califas]

As expected, no apology to the women of Aurentina appears forthcoming. Fair enough; since you have no argument (you clearly were joking about rape) and what you did was probably legal, there's not much left to say unless you change your mind.

Your rape joke is sickening, senator. I wouldn't say disappointing, as I would have had to have some regard for your character first. The other two who participated without questioning the premises (besides Hath), I'm a little disappointed in.

You are aware of what 'woo' means? Yes?

Yes, and it's not even slightly relevant.

At no point do any of these things imply a lack of consent... Which is ever so slightly necessary for rape to occur, so do not slander me by implying my intentions were anything but what they clearly were.

However, this rather clearly implies that it doesn't matter whether she consents or not, only her husband, which believe it or not, is a type of rape because even married women are not property of some man:

"EVERYONE ON HIS MAJESTY'S WIFE!

They can't arrest us all, and we have royal decree to engage in intercourse with her!"

[The Nihilistic view]

"EVERYONE ON HIS MAJESTY'S WIFE!

They can't arrest us all, and we have royal decree to engage in intercourse with her!"

Everyone will woo the queen successively and she will have like 60 million 'friends' outside of His Majesty (and inside of her. Oi, oi!)

Your rape joke is sickening, senator. I wouldn't say disappointing, as I would have had to have some regard for your character first. The other two who participated without questioning the premises (besides Hath), I'm a little disappointed in.

In my defence, my computer has a large crack in the screen that blurs the pixels around it.

Don't accept TRG's premise - you were responding to a man who literally said the ideal ruler would be 'a father, a procreator'. You've got nothing to defend or apologize for.

Who were the "other two"?

[The Nihilistic view]

Opposed to this opposition. Gender neutral terms are sexist as they deny me the use of my gender prefix.

Absolute nonsense, I wouldn't do anything to stop you calling yourself Mr. Chair if you were in that role.

It should be Chairman/Chairwoman. Not chair, for I do not get sat on!

[The Nihilistic view]

Your rape joke is sickening, senator. I wouldn't say disappointing, as I would have had to have some regard for your character first. The other two who participated without questioning the premises (besides Hath), I'm a little disappointed in.

You are aware of what 'woo' means? Yes?

woo
v. wooed, woo·ing, woos
v.tr.
1. To seek the affection of with intent to romance.
2.
a. To seek to achieve; try to gain.
b. To tempt or invite.
3. To entreat, solicit, or importune.

v.intr.
To court a woman.

At no point do any of these things imply a lack of consent... Which is ever so slightly necessary for rape to occur, so do not slander me by implying my intentions were anything but what they clearly were.

wooed

[Free South Califas]

Your rape joke is sickening, senator. I wouldn't say disappointing, as I would have had to have some regard for your character first. The other two who participated without questioning the premises (besides Hath), I'm a little disappointed in.


Don't accept TRG's premise - you were responding to a man who literally said the ideal ruler would be 'a father, a procreator'. You've got nothing to defend or apologize for.

Who were the "other two"?

One was you, completely by mistake. I apologize for any offense; I misunderstood your joke at the time, but it has been explained to me and the worst I can say about it now is that it's unlikely many followed it all the way through

Absolute nonsense, I wouldn't do anything to stop you calling yourself Mr. Chair if you were in that role.

It should be Chairman/Chairwoman. Not chair, for I do not get sat on!

If necessary, I would move as far as supporting the right of any particular chair to adopt any one of the three as their title.

[The Nihilistic view]

Who were the "other two"?

One was you, completely by mistake. I apologize for any offense; I misunderstood your joke at the time, but it has been explained to me and the worst I can say about it now is that it's unlikely many followed it all the way through

It should be Chairman/Chairwoman. Not chair, for I do not get sat on!

If necessary, I would move as far as supporting the right of any particular chair to adopt any one of the three as their title.

Ah good, people might find out from the lobby thread as one senator noticed but as of yet her husband has not. Its both a joke and a little IC action.

[Kouralia]

As expected, no apology to the women of Aurentina appears forthcoming. Fair enough; since you have no argument (you clearly were joking about rape) and what you did was probably legal, there's not much left to say unless you change your mind.

You are aware of what 'woo' means? Yes?

Yes, and it's not even slightly relevant.

Oh, contraire.

If someone makes 'Ambiguous Statement A', where meaning 1) is rape, and meaning 2-'x') are other things, and then they clarify it with another statement which reduces the possible meanings of 'Ambiguous Statement A' to Meanings 'x, y and z' which are all not rape at all because they necessitate consent of the woman, by definition.

That's the point when the definition of a word someone used becomes very important, especially if it is the lexical verb of a sentence, and thus the point in the sentence which pins down the meaning. The remainder of it is a joke about sex, Senator, so is something which is understandably maybe something not reserved for such polite company (*onion bounces off of Kourie's head* "Oi! Piss off!"), but is not worth the over the top reaction which it received.

At no point do any of these things imply a lack of consent... Which is ever so slightly necessary for rape to occur, so do not slander me by implying my intentions were anything but what they clearly were.

However, this rather clearly implies that it doesn't matter whether she consents or not, only her husband, which believe it or not, is a type of rape because even married women are not property of some man:

"EVERYONE ON HIS MAJESTY'S WIFE!

They can't arrest us all, and we have royal decree to engage in intercourse with her!"

Oh, it might imply, but when clarified by a follow-up statement which destroys that implication, it no longer does so.

[Free South Califas]

Twaddle, I say. Rape jokes are categorically unacceptable whether or not you acknowledge them as such, because they make light of rape regardless of the joker's intentions, and a broad trend of normalizing such jokes could hypothetically precipitate sexual assault, surely a mark the Senator would rather not wear.

The flip side of the twaddle coin is that we all say twaddle sometimes, so a sincere expression of remorse that you formerly misunderstood this topic and will try not to trivialize rape in the future, should see you right through this little social ordeal. Any rape survivors whose post-traumatic stress symptoms were triggered by your 'joke' taking them by surprise, are not so lucky; they've likely been irritable or lashed out against someone already, and they may never live down that thing they said after you provoked their panic.

That being said, again, there's no argument to retread here, so either apologize so we can all move on, or just move forward as the rape-joke senator. Hey, some people see lack of solidarity with rape survivors as a strength, I guess.

[Yanalia]

Revenue Collection Act of 2013
Drafted by: Yanalia [RG], Free South Califas [CP]
Sponsors:

ASTOUNDED that the nation has no legal method of enforcing its tax laws,
REALIZING that taxation enforcement is necessary to provide revenue for the state,
RECOGNIZING ALSO that the laws of the state must be enforced,

The government of the nation hereby enacts the following.

Definitions:

Abuse is defined as the usage of executive powers by government agents beyond those legally granted to them, as well as the violation of restrictions on their powers.
Taxes are defined as any monetary funds collected by the government of the nation.
Audit is defined as examining the financial status of a taxpayer, in order to verify compliance with tax laws.
Taxpayer is defined as any person, organization, or other entity which must by law pay taxes to the government.

Section 1: The Revenue Collection Agency

1. The Revenue Collection Agency, known hereafter in this act as the RCA, shall be established, under the auspices of the Ministry of the Treasury, for the purposes of enforcing the nation's tax laws, collecting government revenue, ensuring the veracity of taxation reports provided by the citizens of the nation, and pursuing those who violate the nation's tax laws.
2. The RCA shall also be legally allowed to issue administrative rulings on taxation issues, within the confines of its legally enshrined grant of authority.
3. When enforcing the nation's taxation laws, RCA agents shall be bound by all laws limiting any and all other law enforcement officers.
4. Citizens of the nation may enter into litigation with the RCA on grounds of its violation of any legislation limiting its powers.

Section 2: The Commissioner of the Revenue Collection Agency

1. The RCA shall be headed by the Commissioner of the Revenue Collection Agency, known hereafter in this act as the RCA Commissioner, or the Commissioner.
2. Given the importance of close oversight over the dealings of the RCA, the RCA Commissioner shall be appointed by the President of the nation.
3. The RCA Commissioner shall be responsible for supervising the RCA in its fulfillment of its duties.
4. The RCA Commissioner shall report to the Ministry of the Treasury, who shall approve the regulations and ruling of the RCA on taxation revenue issues.
5. It is the legal obligation of the Commissioner to report any abuses within the RCA as soon as the Commissioner receives any knowledge of them directly to the Minister of the Treasury.
6. The Commissioner shall be allowed to create whatever structure necessary for the operation of the RCA within the agency's grant of authority, within the confines of the RCA budget.

Section 3: The Budget of the RCA

1. The budget of the RCA shall be allocated by the Minister of the Treasury, who is by law required to provide sufficient funds to meet the RCA Commissioner's proposed structure, or else propose a different structure and budget which shall suffice for the agency to fulfill its mandate.
2. The Senate is bound to provide a sufficient budget to the Ministry of the Treasury to provide for the RCA's operations.
3. If the Senate does not fulfill Section 3, Clause 2 of this act, the Minister of the Treasury will not be held legally accountable for his failure to fulfill Section 3, Clause 1 of the same.

Section 4: Revenue Collection

1. The RCA shall be responsible for the collection and counting of all taxes created by the Senate.
2. Taxpayers shall report all necessary financial details for the calculation of taxes, as well as details necessary for the identification of individual taxpayers, to the RCA.
3. For the purposes of income tax, employers shall also report the details specified in Section 4, Clause 2 of this act for their employees to the RCA.
3. Details must be reported fully and entirely truthfully.
3. Methods and forms for reporting details, as well as the various method of collection of money, shall be created and modified as needed by the RCA Commissioner, with the approval of the Minister of the Treasury.
4. The end result of the processes used by the RCA must result in the legally defined amount of money taken from the taxpayer over the legally defined period, though money may be taken as many times as specified by the RCA Commissioner and approved by the Minister of the Treasury.
5. The RCA may audit any taxpayer, using methodology determined by the RCA Commissioner and approved by the Ministry of the Treasury.
6. Such audits, or their frequency, intensity or comprehensiveness, shall be applied equally to all taxpayers, except as specified in this act, or as determined by random or unavoidable factors.
7. Such audits, nor their aspects listed above, shall never be used for the purpose of harassment; unfairly raising the cost of business in a particular sector; establishing political or philosophical dominance except affirming the necessity for taxes to be raised and paid; or enabling de jure or de facto discrimination on the basis of ethnicity, socioeconomic standing, appearance, sexual orientation, gender identity, political preference, or similarly irrelevant or vicious factor; except as unavoidable.
8. A taxpaying entity may only be audited if it has never been audited or if its last audit ended later than two years before. Exceptions may be granted by court order if it is determined that said entity has made substantially inaccurate or dishonest claims to the RCA, and a preponderance of evidence suggests that auditing said entity may be crucial for the proper functions of government to be fully funded and carried out in good faith.

Section 5: Tax Evasion

1. All those who by law must pay taxes will face legal repercussions if they do not comply.
2. Tax evasion, the crime of not paying legally owed taxes or lowering one's legally owed taxes in an unlawful manner, is hereby illegal in the nation and is a charge that can be applied to suspects when arrested by the police force.
3. In cases involving sums of money over $2 million NSC, the RCA shall provide a reward of at least 10% of recovered funds as a result of the discovery of tax evasion to those who report the crime to the RCA.
4. The RCA shall be allowed to begin an audit for the purposes of uncovering and only given suspicion of tax evasion, remaining within its legal limitations and using methodology created by the Commissioner and approved by the Ministry of the Treasury.
5. If an audit reveals that some (combination of) asset(s) valued at over $70,000 NSC would have otherwise avoided scrutiny for tax purposes, the tax form and audit documentation shall be analysed by (an)other RCA auditor(s) for the purpose of counteracting the effect of unavoidable cognitive bias by the first auditor(s), specifically determining whether there are likely to be other assets which may avoid scrutiny for tax purposes. If there are, the RCA may conduct a 'secondary audit' of the same entity, focusing on finding and accurately describing those assets so as to determine any necessary taxes or fines.
6. The RCA shall have the power to impose fines for tax evasion and require the payment of any unlawfully evaded taxes.
7. The RCA shall not have the power to prosecute criminal cases, although its investigations may lead to and be used in criminal cases.
8. Late tax payments to the RCA shall be fined at a rate of 5% of the unpaid tax per month the reports are late, up to a maximum of 25%.
9. Intentional, materially false reporting of taxes, or assisting a taxpayer in this activity, shall be a criminal offense that can lead to jail time and/or loss of property, as determined by the court.
10. Criminal tax evasion cases shall be prosecuted by the Ministry of Justice.
11. If an accuracy issue is discovered on tax returns by the RCA, and a tax increase results, the RCA shall have the power to fine the taxpayer a set percentage of the missing taxes on top of the missing tax payments which must be made. These percentages will vary based on the egregiousness of the offense, and will be determined by the Commissioner and approved by the Minister of the Treasury.

Section 6: Legal Limitations on the RCA

1. RCA agents shall not have the power to arrest or detain suspects.
2. The RCA shall never consider any taxpayer's religion, political views, appearance, sexuality, skin color, age, or socioeconomic status in any of its operations, except where explicitly and specifically directed by legislation to consider specific characteristics for specific taxation.
3. The RCA shall be forbidden to ask any non-financial details of taxpayers beyond those necessary for identification of taxpayers and those specified in legislation.

Section 7: Investigations into the RCA

1. At any time, the RCA Commissioner may order an internal investigation of the RCA to discover abuses and violations of the law.
2. The Revenue Oversight Committee, hereafter referred to in this act as the ROC, shall be created within the Senate for the purpose of overseeing the RCA.
3. The Commissioner shall announce internal investigations and their purposes to both the Minister of the Treasury and the Senate upon the commencement of an investigation, report any details he/she chooses during the investigation, and announce its termination and results at the investigation's closure.
4. At any time, the Minister of the Treasury or the ROC, referred to together for this purpose as the Investigation Initiator, may initiate an external investigation of the RCA.
5. The Investigation Initiator shall create an Investigator-General, hereafter referred to as the IG, to oversee the investigation of the RCA.
6. Only one external investigation may be ongoing at any time.
7. The IG shall report all details that the Investigation Initiator demands to the Investigation Initiator.
8. The discovery of illegal/abusive activity within the RCA shall lead to the prosecution of any and all persons responsible for the abuse.
9. Violations of any portion of this act by RCA agents shall be considered an arrestable offense on charges of abuse of power.
10. Any agent who upon learning of abuse or illegal activity does not report it to his/her superior in a timely manner shall be considered an accomplice to abuse of power, and charged accordingly.
11. The RCA Commissioner must initiate an internal investigation in a timely manner upon his/her discovery of multiple, related cases of abuse or illegal activity in the RCA, or else face removal from the post and potential charges of being an accomplice to abuse of power, depending on the results of external investigation.
12. Upon the initiation of an external investigation, all operating internal investigations must be stopped immediately, and all findings, documents, and information associated with them reported to the IG in a timely manner.

Complete draft, with FSC's changes. I need criticisms and suggestions now to improve this.

[Yanalia]

Twaddle, I say. Rape jokes are categorically unacceptable whether or not you acknowledge them as such, because they make light of rape regardless of the joker's intentions, and a broad trend of normalizing such jokes could hypothetically precipitate sexual assault, surely a mark the Senator would rather not wear.

The flip side of the twaddle coin is that we all say twaddle sometimes, so a sincere expression of remorse that you formerly misunderstood this topic and will try not to trivialize rape in the future, should see you right through this little social ordeal. Any rape survivors whose post-traumatic stress symptoms were triggered by your 'joke' taking them by surprise, are not so lucky; they've likely been irritable or lashed out against someone already, and they will never live down that thing they said after you provoked their panic.

That being said, again, there's no argument to retread here, so either apologize so we can all move on, or just move forward as the rape-joke senator.

Shall we suppress all humor for fear it might offend someone? Humor, after all, can be offensive to many people, regardless whether intended or not. I think it's a slippery slope to go on.

[Free South Califas]

Twaddle, I say. Rape jokes are categorically unacceptable whether or not you acknowledge them as such, because they make light of rape regardless of the joker's intentions, and a broad trend of normalizing such jokes could hypothetically precipitate sexual assault, surely a mark the Senator would rather not wear.

The flip side of the twaddle coin is that we all say twaddle sometimes, so a sincere expression of remorse that you formerly misunderstood this topic and will try not to trivialize rape in the future, should see you right through this little social ordeal. Any rape survivors whose post-traumatic stress symptoms were triggered by your 'joke' taking them by surprise, are not so lucky; they've likely been irritable or lashed out against someone already, and they will never live down that thing they said after you provoked their panic.

That being said, again, there's no argument to retread here, so either apologize so we can all move on, or just move forward as the rape-joke senator.

Shall we suppress all humor for fear it might offend someone?

No, but on an unrelated note, when I find I've trivialized rape, I apologize and promise to be more mindful.

Humor, after all, can be offensive to many people, regardless whether intended or not. I think it's a slippery slope to go on.

Good thing no one's suggested it, then Of course, we can discuss the trivialization of rape, and its defense, if you want to talk about slippery slopes that lead to rather nastier consequences than being lightly pressured to speak with more consideration of rape survivors. Everyone has to deal with a little social pressure to be more considerate. It won't have been anything new to the Senator or anyone else, I'm sure.

Your abstractions aside, rape jokes and humor do not belong in the same category anyway.

[The Nihilistic view]

Shall we suppress all humor for fear it might offend someone?

No, but on an unrelated note, when I find I've trivialized rape, I apologize and promise to be more mindful.

Humor, after all, can be offensive to many people, regardless whether intended or not. I think it's a slippery slope to go on.

Good thing no one's suggested it, then Of course, we can discuss the trivialization of rape, and its defense, if you want to talk about slippery slopes that lead to rather nastier consequences than being lightly pressured to speak with more consideration of rape survivors. Everyone has to deal with a little social pressure to be more considerate. It won't have been anything new to the Senator or anyone else, I'm sure.

Your abstractions aside, rape jokes and humor do not belong in the same category anyway.

This picture does not represent my views.

[Kouralia]

Twaddle, I say. Rape jokes are categorically unacceptable whether or not you acknowledge them as such, because they make light of rape regardless of the joker's intentions, and a broad trend of normalizing such jokes could hypothetically precipitate sexual assault, surely a mark the Senator would rather not wear.

The flip side of the twaddle coin is that we all say twaddle sometimes, so a sincere expression of remorse that you formerly misunderstood this topic and will try not to trivialize rape in the future, should see you right through this little social ordeal. Any rape survivors whose post-traumatic stress symptoms were triggered by your 'joke' taking them by surprise, are not so lucky; they've likely been irritable or lashed out against someone already, and they may never live down that thing they said after you provoked their panic.

That being said, again, there's no argument to retread here, so either apologize so we can all move on, or just move forward as the rape-joke senator. Hey, some people see lack of solidarity with rape survivors as a strength, I guess.

Fine, I refuse to apologise to the women of Aurentina, instead apologising to the Rape Victims of Aurentina.

Now, if you excuse me, I have some wooing to do.

[Costa Alegria]

So we don't have a formal foreign policy, we don't have a formal immigration policy and people are concerned about the use of gender neutral words.

Priorities people. Gender-neutral words aren't one of them.

[Hathradic States]

So we don't have a formal foreign policy, we don't have a formal immigration policy and people are concerned about the use of gender neutral words.

Priorities people. Gender-neutral words aren't one of them.

Good luck convincing the feminists of that.

[Free South Califas]

So we don't have a formal foreign policy, we don't have a formal immigration policy and people are concerned about the use of gender neutral words.

Priorities people. Gender-neutral words aren't one of them.

Classic canard, top work sir. Regardless, if you want a bill to be acceptable, it should be nondiscriminatory.

[Free South Califas]

Twaddle, I say. Rape jokes are categorically unacceptable whether or not you acknowledge them as such, because they make light of rape regardless of the joker's intentions, and a broad trend of normalizing such jokes could hypothetically precipitate sexual assault, surely a mark the Senator would rather not wear.

The flip side of the twaddle coin is that we all say twaddle sometimes, so a sincere expression of remorse that you formerly misunderstood this topic and will try not to trivialize rape in the future, should see you right through this little social ordeal. Any rape survivors whose post-traumatic stress symptoms were triggered by your 'joke' taking them by surprise, are not so lucky; they've likely been irritable or lashed out against someone already, and they may never live down that thing they said after you provoked their panic.

That being said, again, there's no argument to retread here, so either apologize so we can all move on, or just move forward as the rape-joke senator. Hey, some people see lack of solidarity with rape survivors as a strength, I guess.

Fine, I refuse to apologise to the women of Aurentina, instead apologising to the Rape Victims of Aurentina.

Now, if you excuse me, I have some wooing to do.

Your flexibility is certainly appreciated here, Senator.

[Regnum Dominae]

Sorry for not getting to the sponsor updates, Internet has been REALLY slow the past day, and I mean like dial up slow.

I'm currently trawling all the Senate pages and compiling a new sponsor list.

[Distruzio]

In my defence, my computer has a large crack in the screen that blurs the pixels around it.

Don't accept TRG's premise - you were responding to a man who literally said the ideal ruler would be 'a father, a procreator'. You've got nothing to defend or apologize for.

Implying that a Queen would be a mother, a procreator and yet fit perfectly within a paternalistic milieu. I would encourage the senator to consider the definition of the word, "paternalism."

I'll cite it for you, should you be disinclined:

Paternalism (or parentalism) is behavior, by a person, organization or state, which limits some person or group's liberty or autonomy for their own good.[1] Paternalism can also imply that the behavior is against or regardless of the will of a person, or also that the behavior expresses an attitude of superiority.[2]
The word paternalism is from the Latin pater for father, though paternalism should be distinguished from patriarchy. Paternalism is sometimes thought appropriate towards children and paternalism towards adults is sometimes thought to treat them as if they were children.[

[Hathradic States]

So we don't have a formal foreign policy, we don't have a formal immigration policy and people are concerned about the use of gender neutral words.

Priorities people. Gender-neutral words aren't one of them.

Classic canard, top work sir. Regardless, if you want a bill to be acceptable, it should be nondiscriminatory.

If you think that "Chairman" is discriminatory, you need to kindly get the fuck out of politics and go back to your commune. It is a title, and has no gender. We are all men, even the women are men.

[Fulflood]

"EVERYONE ON HIS MAJESTY'S WIFE!

They can't arrest us all, and we have royal decree to engage in intercourse with her!"

Everyone will woo the queen successively and she will have like 60 million 'friends' outside of His Majesty (and inside of her. Oi, oi!)

Your rape joke is sickening, senator. I wouldn't say disappointing, as I would have had to have some regard for your character first. The other two who participated without questioning the premises (besides Hath), I'm a little disappointed in.

I don't think this is a rape joke though really.