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Postby Balochistan and New York » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:04 am

Beta Test wrote:The results are in. Both my own vote and Costa's vote were not counted as they were just passed the deadline

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Resolved: All future OOC votes called by the Senate Admins shall require that the process of the vote, to include tie breaking procedures, shall be laid out in their fullness at the commencement of the vote and not determined after the voting has commenced or concluded.

With 20 Ayes to 6 nays, this resolution has passed

Name

And now for the most important part, the final result of this vote was
Fernao 18
Fortuna Islands 9

The name of our nation shall be Fernao.

And with that, voting is concluded. The Admins will have a new lobby, chamber, coffee shop, etc. up in the next few hours, upon which we will officially begin Fernao.

Yay!
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Postby Lykens » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:05 am

Admins can we postpone the chamber?

Filimons' history is very broad on how the Senate comes into fernao, on one hand it can be interpreted that a provisional government has to pass a constitution, which I would be in favor of, we can have people propose constitutions and then vote on them, and then dive into the RP.

On the other hand, it could provide for a constitutional convention, which while it seemed to be fun in Elizia, happens to only be a few people participating, and drawing out the process longer than it has to be.
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Postby Balochistan and New York » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:06 am

Just a question what is the majority Gender in this nation? Also who would like to form the Womens Party with me? If there is majority females in this nation, if no then the Progressive Party?
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Postby FreYhill » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:11 am

Lykens wrote:Admins can we postpone the chamber?

Filimons' history is very broad on how the Senate comes into fernao, on one hand it can be interpreted that a provisional government has to pass a constitution, which I would be in favor of, we can have people propose constitutions and then vote on them, and then dive into the RP.

On the other hand, it could provide for a constitutional convention, which while it seemed to be fun in Elizia, happens to only be a few people participating, and drawing out the process longer than it has to be.

I'm in favor of this too Admins.
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Postby The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:37 am

If we don't do a constitutional convention, how will a constitution be drafted, out of curiosity?
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Postby Lykens » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:39 am

The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism wrote:If we don't do a constitutional convention, how will a constitution be drafted, out of curiosity?


In Dagmar we accepted different drafts of the Government Establishment Act, I don't see why we can't have different drafts of constitutions written by members that get debated and then put to a vote.
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Postby The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:43 am

Lykens wrote:
The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism wrote:If we don't do a constitutional convention, how will a constitution be drafted, out of curiosity?


In Dagmar we accepted different drafts of the Government Establishment Act, I don't see why we can't have different drafts of constitutions written by members that get debated and then put to a vote.

I'd have no issues with that.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:36 am

Amir Haddad was born on March 18, 1957 into a working class family that resided in the Naba'a district in the town of Bourj Hammoud, south of the Lebanese capital, Beirut. His father was a shopkeeper and his mother was a hairdresser. A strict authoritarian, his father would routinely beat Haddad if he stepped out of line. His mother also received a number of beatings. He was also blamed for his father's subsequent descent into alcoholism, especially given that the family struggled supporting two additional children. However, Haddad became a curious and rather intelligent child with a surprising amount of popularity and charisma despite suffering from less than ideal domestic situations. Being the youngest son in the family, Haddad wasn't considered as important as his older brother Mahmoud and was pulled out of school at age 13 to help his father run the family store. During this time, he developed a friendship with a girl named Nayla Habib, who still attended school. She would help him with further reading and mathmatics skills.

In 1973, at age 16, the relationship between Haddad and his father deteriorated significantly. His father and Haddad got into a fight after he had been caught stealing sweets for Nayla, who was now his girlfriend. A few weeks later, another fight occurred when Nayla's father marched him home in the early hours of the morning after catching Haddad and Nayla having sex. His parents forbade him from seeing Nayla, although Haddad continued to evade his parents and routinely met up with her. In October of that year, Haddad returned home from seeing his friends to find his father beating his mother with a belt. Enraged, Haddad grabbed a hammer and began beating his father with it, knocking him unconscious. Haddad and his brother then dragged their fathers body and disposed of it in a nearby dumpster. Whatever happened to his father's body still remains a mystery today.

Liberated from his abusive father, Haddad moved with his mother to a different part of Bourj Hammoud after selling up the shop. Although his mother still worked as a hairdresser, Haddad gained employment as a shopkeeper's assistant until he was drafted by the Lebanese Army in 1975.

Haddad had barely passed basic training when the Lebanese Civil War broke out. Haddad's unit initially remained within the Lebanese Army but joined Lieutenant Ahmed al-Khatib's mutiny. Now part of the Lebanese Arab Army (LNA), Haddad initially escaped the breakout of hostilities until March 1976 when the LNA participated in the Battle of the Hotels. Haddad participated in the seizure of the Holiday Inn Hotel, cooperating with Palestinians from the Palestinian Liberation Organization. During the seizure, he managed to engage in hand-to-hand combat with a Christian militiaman of an age similar to his and successfully won the combat by bayonetting the Christian. According to Haddad, that was a definining moment in his life.

Disillusioned with the disestablishment of the and reintegration into the regular Lebanese Army, Haddad defected from the Lebanese Army in March 1977 and joined Al-Mourabitoun, a left-wing Nasserist militia. He would fight with the militia until September 1982 after the ending of the Seige of Beirut by Israel. By then Haddad, now 25, had largely formed his own militia group which controlled parts of the port areas in Beirut. Loosely controlled and organized, the milita developed a bloodthirsty reputation, often kidnapping Christian civilians and sending their families body parts when they demanded ransoms. During this time, Hadded attempted to keep his family safe. However, by 1982 he had only his brother left. His mother died during street fighting in 1979 and his sister was taken by Lebanese soldiers in 1981. He secured his brother's escape from Lebanon in November 1982 whilst he remained in Beirut, building up enough money and connections to secure his own escape. However, he was lured into the smuggling business and became well known within Beirut. In January 1983, Haddad caught his long-term girlfriend Nayla Habib having sex with Mohammed Gharib, who had defected with Haddad in 1977 and with whom he had fought alongside in the intervening six years. Incensed by the betrayal and now motivated by pure anger, Haddad personally tortured them both until they both confessed of their relationship. Haddad then had the both of them tied together and placed into a car, which was doused in petrol and set alight, burning them both alive. What followed was a two week long orgy of blood letting in which Haddad attacked various militia groups on the right and left. Haddad's victims were commonly hacked to death with knives and machetes, their body parts then delivered in boxes to their respective commanders. This earned him the name "The Butcher of Beirut".

With nothing left to fight for, Haddad left Lebanon in October 1983, seeking refuge initially in Jordan but then moving to Egypt where he attended Al-Azhar University in Cairo. However, he only stayed in Cairo for two months, unable to reconcile his faith with his political convictions. He remained in Cairo however, completing his Hajj that year as well. Having felt some atonement for his past deeds, he used what remained of the money obtained from smuggling to emigrate to Fernao, settling in the predominantly Arab west of the country. He gained citizenship in January 1986 and joined the military, becoming a career officer. In 1993, aged 36, Haddad became a lieutenant.

With the outbreak of the Fernese Civil War in 1994, Haddad quickly hatched a plan to seize power within the military units based in the western half of Fernao. In June 1994, Haddad led a mutiny against the predominantly Hindu leadership of the Fernese Armed Forces, exploiting a substantial rift between the leadership and the predominantly Muslim forces based in the west of Fernao. Now the leader of a substantially sized and well armed force, Haddad moved to secure the majority Muslim areas of Fernao, carving himself out a nationstate for Fernao's Arabs and Muslims. Relying on his experiences in Lebanon, Haddad proved to be an effective and somewhat bloodthirsty leader, allowing his forces to forcefully evict all non-Arabs and non-Muslims from territory he took, whilst also encouraging Muslims and Arabs from elsewhere to settle in his new nationstate. In December 1994, Haddad proclaimed the independence of the Republic of Akhdiria.

He transformed his new state into one based on his ideology, Tanwirism, which he had cultivated after exposure to Nasserist thought and later, Ba'athist thought, combined with the Islamic teachings he received in Egypt. He promoted stability and peace within the region by removing all potential threats to his rule, politically or otherwise. He founded the Arab National Front as the vanguard of his revolution and consolidated his power by using the military as an extension of his power. This was later backed up by the formation of the National Security Force which provided the government with a secret police to spy on and arrest suspected dissidents. Haddad cultivated ties with foreign nations, in particular Syria and Iraq, with whom he considered to be ideological friends. Substantial investment came from these nations, although this was supplemented with investments from Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Because of Haddad's opposition to the Hindu majority on the islands, investments also came from Pakistan, who provided Haddad's forces with weapons. Later on, Iran, China and Russia began investing in Akhdiria, although recognition was not given. The Chinese clandestinely provided weapons to Haddad's forces through Pakistan.

Haddad used his position of power to assume a substantial amount of wealth for himself. In addition, corruption, cronyism and human rights abuses were common. Media was severely limited in its freedoms and propaganda was routinely disseminated by the state. Haddad personally organized and ordered pogroms and massacres against the Hindus that were not forced out during his initial territorial carve out. Eventually this lead to an all out ethnic cleansing campaign in September 2001, which went largely unnoticed due to events in the United States. Haddad also gained an international reputation for being one of the more despotic dictators in the world. He routinely organized torture sessions for political dissidents at his personal residence. Haddad would often have younger women, many of whom were between 18 and 25 years of age, brought to his residence for sex, with those that refused being fed to a group of lions that were imported illegally from Africa. Those that he did have sex with were later given to his body guards or distributed among soldiers, many of whom would later die due to injuries or being shot dead by displeased soldiers. He also began a campaign of state sponsored terrorism against Hindus outside of Akhdiria, using finances and training provided by Saudi Arabia. This continued from 2005 until 2014.

An Indian-led UN intervention ended Haddad's rule. A swift three week campaign against superior air and naval power virtually destroyed his armed forces and forced Haddad to enter into negotiations with the Fernao government in order to unify the state. Although the United Nations attempted to arrest him for various human rights abuses, Haddad was never imprisoned due to a lack of evidence after the Indian Air Force's air strikes against government buildings destroyed most of the evidence, with Haddad's forces setting fire to the national archives in the midst of the chaos. Haddad is now the leader of an Arab nationalist and Muslim interest party seeking autonomy or a renewal of independence from Fernao.
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Postby Tumbra » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:33 am

dibs on the name Raghav Shivansh Kshatriya and the model of Rahul Gandhi if anyone was thinking about stealing either
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Postby The New World Oceania » Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:40 am

Balochistan and New York wrote:Just a question what is the majority Gender in this nation? Also who would like to form the Womens Party with me? If there is majority females in this nation, if no then the Progressive Party?

Definitely starting a Feminist Party, will make the thread later today.
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I´ll join whoever comes up with a communist/socialist party that wants power more than Karl Marx´s wet dream come true. :)
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Postby Balochistan and New York » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:34 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
Balochistan and New York wrote:Just a question what is the majority Gender in this nation? Also who would like to form the Womens Party with me? If there is majority females in this nation, if no then the Progressive Party?

Definitely starting a Feminist Party, will make the thread later today.

Could we be Co-Chairwomen?
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