But I really want a baby

[West Failure]

Another case of a woman killed and the foetus she was carrying is cut out and kept by someone who presumably wanted a baby really, really badly.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8175813.stm

A baby who was cut from her mother's womb has been found alive two days after the woman's body was discovered, US police have said.

I find this incomprehensible, is adoption so difficult in the US that unless you are Madonna and can bribe an entire country you can't find a child to adopt?

[Brogavia]

Forced abortion!

[Barringtonia]

I find this incomprehensible, is adoption so difficult in the US that unless you are Madonna and can bribe an entire country you can't find a child to adopt?

Presumably, if you're mad enough to cut a baby from someone else's stomach, you're not really fit for adopting a baby - I'd guess she has a history of mental instability.

[The Immortal Shogun]

Another case of a woman killed and the foetus she was carrying is cut out and kept by someone who presumably wanted a baby really, really badly.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8175813.stm

A baby who was cut from her mother's womb has been found alive two days after the woman's body was discovered, US police have said.

I find this incomprehensible, is adoption so difficult in the US that unless you are Madonna and can bribe an entire country you can't find a child to adopt?

Nope. Americans routinely adopt Chinese babies for their awesome sense of duty and math skeelz. Adoption of chinese babies is going to replace baseball as the national sport one day.

[Gazilland]

This is pretty f'd up.

[SaintB]

Its always surprising to find out people that sick exist, especially since it shouldn't be.

[No Names Left Damn It]

I was about to post this. Disgusting. I can't imagine what would drive people to do this.

[Risottia]

Presumably, if you're mad enough to cut a baby from someone else's stomach,

...then I'd guess that this "someone else" ate the baby.


Anyway, holy shit. Humanity never fails to hold up its atrocity records.

[The Archregimancy]

Forced abortion!

Not really, because the baby's been found alive.

'Forced Caesarian section' would be more accurate.

[Inchland]

Thats quite fucked up......

[Barringtonia]

Presumably, if you're mad enough to cut a baby from someone else's stomach,

...then I'd guess that this "someone else" ate the baby.

Babies are made in the stomach, that's why you get pregnant from blowjobs, it's true, my teacher told me,

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Dammit!

[Risottia]

Babies are made in the stomach, that's why you get pregnant from blowjobs, it's true, my teacher told me

Then genital penetration is a safe birth-control method!

[West Failure]

Although thinking about it I suppose it is possible that they intended to murder the victim but then had an 'I am anti killing fetuses' moment and decided to save the foetus as an after thought.

[Yootopia]

Although thinking about it I suppose it is possible that they intended to murder the victim but then had an 'I am anti killing fetuses' moment and decided to save the foetus as an after thought.

What, like a slightly more brutal Predator 2 or something?

[Krypton-Zod]

Change but two things in this scenario:

1. a doctor doing the 'procedure' instead of a lunatic psycho woman
2. the baby being killed instead of the mother

and you get:

Liberals and lefties cheering 'a womans right to kill'.

Strange that those very same people are so upset now.

[North Suran]

Although thinking about it I suppose it is possible that they intended to murder the victim but then had an 'I am anti killing fetuses' moment and decided to save the foetus as an after thought.

What, like a slightly more brutal Predator 2 or something?

I'd say "Alien" would be a more apt comparison.

[North Suran]

Change but two things in this scenario:

1. a doctor doing the 'procedure' instead of a lunatic psycho woman
2. the baby being killed instead of the mother

and you get:

Liberals and lefties cheering 'a womans right to kill'.

Strange that those very same people are so upset now.

You're not seriously comparing an abortion to someone smashing a mother's head in, slicing open their abdomen and stealing their baby?

Seriously, this is something I'd expect from New Mitanni.

[Krypton-Zod]

Change but two things in this scenario:

1. a doctor doing the 'procedure' instead of a lunatic psycho woman
2. the baby being killed instead of the mother

and you get:

Liberals and lefties cheering 'a womans right to kill'.

Strange that those very same people are so upset now.

You're not seriously comparing an abortion to someone smashing a mother's head in, slicing open their abdomen and stealing their baby?

Seriously, this is something I'd expect from New Mitanni.

Ramming a pair of scissors in a babys head and sucking the brains out (ie partial birth abortion) is somehow more 'humane'? I'm sorry I just don't see how that works.

[DaWoad]

Change but two things in this scenario:

1. a doctor doing the 'procedure' instead of a lunatic psycho woman
2. the baby being killed instead of the mother

and you get:

Liberals and lefties cheering 'a womans right to kill'.

Strange that those very same people are so upset now.

You're not seriously comparing an abortion to someone smashing a mother's head in, slicing open their abdomen and stealing their baby?

Seriously, this is something I'd expect from New Mitanni.

what you fail to realize is that zod is, infact worse. The post above (for example) is a perfect display of an attempt to call up an emmotional response to stand in for a real argument.

[North Suran]

Ramming a pair of scissors in a babys head and sucking the brains out (ie partial birth abortion) is somehow more 'humane'? I'm sorry I just don't see how that works.

Let's count the differences, shall we:

1. Legality: abortions are legal, no doubt much to your chagrin, while murder and abduction is not.

2. Fetuses are not technically people; the scientific term is potential person.

3. Fetuses are aborted through a medical procedure; they don't just get their face smashed in or their abdomen ripped open.

Way to exploit this horrible incident to further your own political view. Very classy.

[Krypton-Zod]

Ramming a pair of scissors in a babys head and sucking the brains out (ie partial birth abortion) is somehow more 'humane'? I'm sorry I just don't see how that works.

Let's count the differences, shall we:

1. Legality: abortions are legal, no doubt much to your chagrin, while murder and abduction is not.

2. Fetuses are not technically people; the scientific term is potential person.

3. Fetuses are aborted through a medical procedure; they don't just get their face smashed in or their abdomen ripped open.

Way to exploit this horrible incident to further your own political view. Very classy.

Slavery was once legal, maybe we should have accepted it as 'settled law' instead of having a war between the states.

Wanna know what happens to 'fetuses'? Check this out:

WARNING, DO NOT CLICK IF YOU ARE NOT AT LEAST 18 AND DO NOT HAVE A STRONG STOMACH

MODEDITED.

And then come back to me and tell me this isn't murder. No amount of laws is going to not make this murder. And I absolutely despise religion so you can't call me on that either.

Shame on me for 'exploiting' this horrible incident to expose the hypocrisy in those who gleefully support institutionalized murder whenever the 'mother' wants it. And you know something, most of the 'pro-choisers' are opposed to the death penalty for criminals. Way to have your priorities screwed up there.

[Delator]

And you know something, most of the 'pro-choisers' are opposed to the death penalty for criminals.

Not me...I am consistently pro-death.

[DaWoad]

Slavery was once legal, maybe we should have accepted it as 'settled law' instead of having a war between the states.

Wanna know what happens to 'fetuses'? Check this out:

WARNING, DO NOT CLICK IF YOU ARE NOT AT LEAST 18 AND DO NOT HAVE A STRONG STOMACH

MODEDITED

And then come back to me and tell me this isn't murder. No amount of laws is going to not make this murder. And I absolutely despise religion so you can't call me on that either.

Shame on me for 'exploiting' this horrible incident to expose the hypocrisy in those who gleefully support institutionalized murder whenever the 'mother' wants it. And you know something, most of the 'pro-choisers' are opposed to the death penalty for criminals. Way to have your priorities screwed up there.

Well you've managedf to stick to the "reason? who needs it? think of the CHILDREN!" style of arguing. I applaud your tenacity. There are some issues with what you posted though. . . .
1)Yes slavery was once legal. Its somewhat ironic that you are trying to compare having an abortion to slavery when NOT giving a woman the option to have an abortion is essentially condeming her to 9 months of slavery. (More importantly there are REASONS that slavery was repelled which essentially ammount to "people are people regardless of colour". On the same note Fetuses are demonstrably not people.

2)That picture isn't actually of a fetus. Thats a stillborne (you can tell by development, various markers of a sever genetic disorder and a couple of other factors). i suggest you look at what you post.

3)I dunno why i bother but, murder is, by definition, the illegal killing of people. Abortions fail that on two levels, 1 fetuses are not people and 2 the killings are not illegal.

[Omega Uliza]

Another case of a woman killed and the foetus she was carrying is cut out and kept by someone who presumably wanted a baby really, really badly.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8175813.stm

A baby who was cut from her mother's womb has been found alive two days after the woman's body was discovered, US police have said.

I find this incomprehensible, is adoption so difficult in the US that unless you are Madonna and can bribe an entire country you can't find a child to adopt?

I don't know what I'm thinking....hmmm

The lady makes a strong case...she did want that baby. Right of the conquerer! ....whoops...wrong thread?....

I'm kidding.

Stances:

1. This wasn't abortion. Abortion kills babies...this killed the mother.
2. If anything, this is partially opposite of abortion. Hence the dead mother and alive baby. Rather than the reverse.
3. If she wanted a baby...but was living in a...what was it? A home? Some sort of program? Yeah...no baby for you. You can't support yourself...how are you supposed to support a baby too?
4. No offense to ladies...(I honestly mean it...this time)...but this is exactly the sort of thing that scares me about women. One minute they're fine and then BAM! "That's my baby!" (sliced jugular) "How do you like that *****?!"
5. I'm gonna hide before #4 has women forming a lynch mob.

[Tubbsalot]

blah blah leftist murdering psychopath abortionists blah blah

Fetuses have no consciousness of any kind prior to the development of the brain, and are simply a lump of flesh. If terminating that is murder, then god knows what you consider menstruation and masturbation to be.