Germany & Germans

[Crownstar]

So have you been to Germany recently? If so how was your trip and your interactions with the locals?

[SaintB]

Its you. People are mean and nice everywhere.

[Barringtonia]

Yes, I've just been to Munich, which I thought was absolutely lovely, and Frankfurt, not so much and their airport sucks as much as I remember it did back when I lived for a while in Wiesbaden,

Maybe it's because it's Summer, everything was lovely,

[Maraque]

I'm going to Gelsenkirchen in a few weeks. That's outside Duesseldorf. ^_^

[Conserative Morality]

The last time I was in Germany was 64 years ago. It was during the final push towards Berlin, and our Comrade-Commander was in a bad mood, as always...

[Barzan]

Ich finde daß Deutscher sind die feschesten freundlichten Volk auf dieser Welt, besonders die Frauen!

I was there for a month last year. I loved all the places and the people I encountered. Many were friendly enough to help me correct my awful German, and they even gave me discounts, better service, or were extra nice to me and such for speaking to them only in German.

I want to eventually die in Germany after spending a good amount of time living there.

As far as I'm concerned, Canada and the U.S. would do well to be more like the Germany in every way. Germany is my ideal country.

Die Sonne schön wie nie über Deutschland scheint!

[Conserative Morality]

As far as I'm concerned, Canada and the U.S. would do well to be more like the Germany in every way. Germany is my ideal country.

Right. Let's start restricting freedom of speech for the sake of past atrocities.

[The German Region]

I live in Germany I think i'd be a bit biased but i'll still say it. Best country and although you can mistake us for being angry all the time, you'll mostly find that the locals are really nice and cheerful.

[Barzan]

As far as I'm concerned, Canada and the U.S. would do well to be more like the Germany in every way. Germany is my ideal country.

Right. Let's start restricting freedom of speech for the sake of past atrocities.

I'd do it more because I think Nazis are idiots than for helping to assuage German guilt. I'd also ban cults -- wait...they already did that! (Score one more for the Germans!) And don't forget who indirectly made them enact such laws as a condition of their occupation -- while, at the same time, allowing the corporations who made killings (both literally and figuratively) off of Jewish slave labour to keep their earnings and to, not only continue to exist, but to keep on going and thriving, and allowing high-ranking ministers under the NS regime to become chancellors under the CDU-dominated Bundestag.

I live in Germany I think i'd be a bit biased but i'll still say it. Best country and although you can mistake us for being angry all the time, you'll mostly find that the locals are really nice and cheerful.

I agree whole-heartedly, having experienced this myself first-hand. The "being angry" stereotype comes form the passion for life, the respect for order, law and cleanliness, and the work ethic which so permeates German society.

[Conserative Morality]

I'd do it more because I think Nazis are idiots than for helping to assuage German guilt. I'd also ban cults -- wait...they already did that! (Score one more for the Germans!)

God, I love the USA. And the Bill of Rights. And the First Amendment.

And don't forget who indirectly made them enact such laws as a condition of their occupation -- while, at the same time, allowing the corporations who made killings (both literally and figuratively) off of Jewish slave labour to keep their earnings and to, not only continue to exist, but to keep on going and thriving, and allowing high-ranking ministers under the NS regime to become chancellors under the CDU-dominated Bundestag.

Aaand, you've lost me.

[No Names Left Damn It]

I'd do it more because I think Nazis are idiots than for helping to assuage German guilt. I'd also ban cults -- wait...they already did that! (Score one more for the Germans!) And don't forget who indirectly made them enact such laws as a condition of their occupation -- while, at the same time, allowing the corporations who made killings (both literally and figuratively) off of Jewish slave labour to keep their earnings and to, not only continue to exist, but to keep on going and thriving, and allowing high-ranking ministers under the NS regime to become chancellors under the CDU-dominated Bundestag.

So basically in order to stop totalitarians who dislike free speech, you're gonna restrict free speech. Great thinking.

[Cabra West]

So have you been to Germany recently? If so how was your trip and your interactions with the locals?

Last autumn.
It was stressfull, and the locals were just as usual.

[Cabra West]

Ich finde daß Deutscher sind die feschesten freundlichten Volk auf dieser Welt, besonders die Frauen!

I was there for a month last year. I loved all the places and the people I encountered. Many were friendly enough to help me correct my awful German, and they even gave me discounts, better service, or were extra nice to me and such for speaking to them only in German.

I want to eventually die in Germany after spending a good amount of time living there.

As far as I'm concerned, Canada and the U.S. would do well to be more like the Germany in every way. Germany is my ideal country.

Die Sonne schön wie nie über Deutschland scheint!

Naja, jedem das seine. Ich kann's in Deutschland nicht ausstehen.

[Edinburgh City Council]

As far as I'm concerned, Canada and the U.S. would do well to be more like the Germany in every way. Germany is my ideal country.

Right. Let's start restricting freedom of speech for the sake of past atrocities.

Letting stupid, unpleasant people say stupid, unpleasant things is not the hallmark of an ideal society.

Freedom of Speech as a concept was not devised in order to allow the neo-simians amongst us to deliberately offend or insult others. It may sound contradictory but Freedom of Speech should be limited - it should rank below anti-discrimination laws and whatever passes for 'public decency' in your nation so that people can say whatever's on their minds as long as they don't spout anything bigoted or obscene. The past atrocities you mention were more than error of judgement. They are a scar on the collective conscience of humanity. Nazi doctrine requires that anyone not conforming to a Nordic ideal should be eliminated from society and not by asking them politely to leave the country.

Allowing Nazis to promulgate their 'political' views for the sake of Freedom of Speech instead of defending the ideal of equality inherent in "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" - words upon which the American Revolution were founded - makes no sense. Whenever a Nazi starts to speak, s/he should be drowned out with a chorus "we are all equal, so fuck off"

[Conserative Morality]

Letting stupid, unpleasant people say stupid, unpleasant things is not the hallmark of an ideal society.

Freedom of Speech as a concept was not devised in order to allow the neo-simians amongst us to deliberately offend or insult others. It may sound contradictory but Freedom of Speech should be limited - it should rank below anti-discrimination laws and whatever passes for 'public decency' in your nation so that people can say whatever's on their minds as long as they don't spout anything bigoted or obscene. The past atrocities you mention were more than error of judgement. They are a scar on the collective conscience of humanity. Nazi doctrine requires that anyone not conforming to a Nordic ideal should be eliminated from society and not by asking them politely to leave the country.

Allowing Nazis to promulgate their 'political' views for the sake of Freedom of Speech instead of defending the ideal of equality inherent in "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" - words upon which the American Revolution were founded - makes no sense. Whenever a Nazi starts to speak, s/he should be drowned out with a chorus "we are all equal, so fuck off"

*sigh* As the memory of our forefathers grows older, so does respect for liberty. Free speech, but chained. Free speech, but restricted. You can say whatever you like, as long as it doesn't conflict with my idea of liberty. The more I hear this, the worse I feel about the coming years.

[Risottia]

I live in Germany I think i'd be a bit biased but i'll still say it. Best country and although you can mistake us for being angry all the time, you'll mostly find that the locals are really nice and cheerful.

Really, the Germans never struck me as angry people. They're very kind and make excellent hosts and companions at parties - maybe a bit lacking about strict formality, but who cares?
And also if you can't speak German, you'll find a lot of people who speak some other languages (English, French and Italian are quite common).

[Yootopia]

So have you been to Germany recently?

Yes.

If so how was your trip and your interactions with the locals?

Both were fairly pleasant, with some cultural differences. See any holiday.

[The German Region]

I live in Germany I think i'd be a bit biased but i'll still say it. Best country and although you can mistake us for being angry all the time, you'll mostly find that the locals are really nice and cheerful.

Really, the Germans never struck me as angry people. They're very kind and make excellent hosts and companions at parties - maybe a bit lacking about strict formality, but who cares?
And also if you can't speak German, you'll find a lot of people who speak some other languages (English, French and Italian are quite common).

I'm not saying we're always angry. Its just a stereotype people have given us. I'll admit the German language is very gutteral and people often mistake you saying something angrily when your not.

[Yootopia]

I live in Germany I think i'd be a bit biased but i'll still say it. Best country and although you can mistake us for being angry all the time, you'll mostly find that the locals are really nice and cheerful.

Really, the Germans never struck me as angry people. They're very kind and make excellent hosts and companions at parties - maybe a bit lacking about strict formality, but who cares?
And also if you can't speak German, you'll find a lot of people who speak some other languages (English, French and Italian are quite common).

I'm not saying we're always angry. Its just a stereotype people have given us. I'll admit the German language is very gutteral and people often mistake you saying something angrily when your not.

JAWOHL!, although I find it varies quite a lot from place to place.

[Chernobl]

I've been there a few times when I was living in London. the people were great and it was all around a good time. Now France on the other hand...

[Risottia]

I'm not saying we're always angry. Its just a stereotype people have given us.

I know - stereotypes tend to do so.

I'll admit the German language is very gutteral and people often mistake you saying something angrily when your not.

Quite not guttural: French is more guttural than German. Also, while German may sound a bit harsh if spoken quickly, it's one of the most musical languages in the world (the other ones being Russian and Italian).

[Yootopia]

French is more guttural than German.

Eh je suis pas d'ac.

Also, while German may sound a bit harsh if spoken quickly, it's one of the most musical languages in the world (the other ones being Russian and Italian).

Depends who it's spoken by. Also the Scandinavian languages are more musical than German

[Risottia]

French is more guttural than German.

Eh je suis pas d'ac.

Pour quoi? Il-y-a une grande quantité d' "u" et "ou" en français.

Also, while German may sound a bit harsh if spoken quickly, it's one of the most musical languages in the world (the other ones being Russian and Italian).

Depends who it's spoken by.

Granted.

Also the Scandinavian languages are more musical than German

Meh. I like Grieg's Peer Gynt, but I cannot help thinking that in German it would have sounded better.

Oh well, de gustibus non est disputandum.

[Fson]

As far as I'm concerned, Canada and the U.S. would do well to be more like the Germany in every way. Germany is my ideal country.

Right. Let's start restricting freedom of speech for the sake of past atrocities.

have you that immature?


Grow up and stop bringing up the war.

it ruined the Image of all germans for years thats why then ban these groups.

[Yootopia]

French is more guttural than German.

Eh je suis pas d'ac.

Pour quoi? Il-y-a une grande quantité d' "u" et "ou" en français.

Oui, mais l'accent, c'est moins eh harsh.

Oh well, de gustibus non est disputandum.

Not the case on NSG