Psychosomatic illnesses

[Tmutarakhan]

wasn't there some example of psychosomatic -pregnancy-?

There have been several well-known cases, involving swollen bellies, morning sickness, every indication of pregnancy, except-- no baby. Mary I of England (Catholic, called "bloody" Mary by the Protestants, desperate to have a child so her sister Elizabeth wouldn't inherit) had a false pregnancy for almost two years.

[Conserative Morality]

God...NO!---IT-It-IT CANT BE!!!!

*snip*

We're doomed,

Great minds think alike... In another thread, I used the exact same image to respond to Gallolism's computer.

[Minnas]

I think she's talking about her own self. Psychosomatic sterility is more common among women.

Is that what is, Nanatsu, are you psychosomatically sterile?

Should I use acid or fire?

I'm not here to argue with anyone nor flame Nanatsu. Not in the mood. This topic interests me because my aunt suffered from this for years. It cost her her marriage.

[Galloism]

wasn't there some example of psychosomatic -pregnancy-?

There have been several well-known cases, involving swollen bellies, morning sickness, every indication of pregnancy, except-- no baby. Mary I of England (Catholic, called "bloody" Mary by the Protestants, desperate to have a child so her sister Elizabeth wouldn't inherit) had a false pregnancy for almost two years.

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How long did it take them to catch on?

[Erastide]

Ladies and gentlemen, stay on topic.

[Maurepas]

wasn't there some example of psychosomatic -pregnancy-?

There have been several well-known cases, involving swollen bellies, morning sickness, every indication of pregnancy, except-- no baby. Mary I of England (Catholic, called "bloody" Mary by the Protestants, desperate to have a child so her sister Elizabeth wouldn't inherit) had a false pregnancy for almost two years.

...

How long did it take them to catch on?

I hate myself for this...but..."Here's your sign"

[Conserative Morality]

I'm not here to argue with anyone nor flame Nanatsu. Not in the mood. This topic interests me because my aunt suffered from this for years. It cost her her marriage.

You're obviously here to troll. I honestly don't think that accusing someone of psychosomatic sterility in your, and her, first post is very conductive to discussion of any kind, the lone exception being arguments. This combined with your long history of rotating between flaming, flamebaiting, and trolling Nanatsu have led me to this conclusion.

[Maurepas]

I'm not here to argue with anyone nor flame Nanatsu. Not in the mood. This topic interests me because my aunt suffered from this for years. It cost her her marriage.

You're obviously here to troll. I honestly don't think that accusing someone of psychosomatic sterility in your, and her, first post is very conductive to discussion of any kind, the lone exception being arguments. This combined with your long history of rotating between flaming, flamebaiting, and trolling Nanatsu have led me to this conclusion.

Plus, even if they were, calling them on it would likely be considered a Flame anyway...

[Minnas]

I'm not here to argue with anyone nor flame Nanatsu. Not in the mood. This topic interests me because my aunt suffered from this for years. It cost her her marriage.

You're obviously here to troll. I honestly don't think that accusing someone of psychosomatic sterility in your, and her, first post is very conductive to discussion of any kind, the lone exception being arguments. This combined with your long history of rotating between flaming, flamebaiting, and trolling Nanatsu have led me to this conclusion.

Oh bother. I am asking because, did you check the question on the OP? Why else would she open a topic if not discuss something that affects her directly? Since she did, I am asking if she's the one suffering through this because my aunt suffered from it for years. She was undergoing treatment for her panic attacks and the medicines used plus the stress placed on her caused her psychosomatic sterility. She couldn't try as she might, to get pregnant. Her husband left her for that.

Psychotherapy is the only way to go with this. Plus, she needs a relaxing place and as little stress as possible.

[Saint Clair Island]

I've read a little bit (all from links from various NSG discussions on the subject, too) that certain medications, especially the ones used to treat depression and anxiety and such, can have the side effects of lowering sex drive, increasing the incidence of impotence/sterility, et cetera. If true -- it was all on Wiki, unfortunately -- this could explain the rising rates of asexuality, involuntary celibacy, and love shyness in Western society where such medications are often prescribed.

Just a hypothesis, mind.

[Conserative Morality]

Oh bother. I am asking because, did you check the question on the OP? Why else would she open a topic if not discuss something that affects her directly?

I'm afraid to tell you that some people find or are given articles, books, and other sources, and become interested in the topic. I myself have never owned a gun, had to wrangle with concealed carry laws, nor have I ever smoked pot or used any other illegal drug. Yet, I have made topics on all of these.

Since she did, I am asking if she's the one suffering through this because my aunt suffered from it for years. She was undergoing treatment for her panic attacks and the medicines used plus the stress placed on her caused her psychosomatic sterility. She couldn't try as she might, to get pregnant. Her husband left her for that.

I'm afraid sob stories aren't going to work here. It's my amateur opinion that you're trying to cover up the reason for your continued accusation.

Psychotherapy is the only way to go with this. Plus, she needs a relaxing place and as little stress as possible.

And I suppose you are qualified to say that those are the only possible treatments, and once more, you continue the accusation.

[Minnas]

I've read a little bit (all from links from various NSG discussions on the subject, too) that certain medications, especially the ones used to treat depression and anxiety and such, can have the side effects of lowering sex drive, increasing the incidence of impotence/sterility, et cetera. If true -- it was all on Wiki, unfortunately -- this could explain the rising rates of asexuality, involuntary celibacy, and love shyness in Western society where such medications are often prescribed.

Just a hypothesis, mind.

My aunt was taking Paxil for 3 years, back when Paxil was new. She got married while under treatment and it all seemed fine. She had a relapse 4 years into the marriage. They were already settled and wanted a family and, as hard as they tried, my uncle couldn't get her pregnant. They tried it for 2 years, her shrink had already switched meds to Wellbutrin. Nothing. She went to the OBGYN and she told her that all seemed fine except her entire reproductive system was tense and her mucus had changed so much, it was too thick to let the sperm go through. She tried psychotherapy. Nothing. But her husband was pressing her for a baby, and the stress just made her cave in. They separated after that.

[Saint Clair Island]

I've read a little bit (all from links from various NSG discussions on the subject, too) that certain medications, especially the ones used to treat depression and anxiety and such, can have the side effects of lowering sex drive, increasing the incidence of impotence/sterility, et cetera. If true -- it was all on Wiki, unfortunately -- this could explain the rising rates of asexuality, involuntary celibacy, and love shyness in Western society where such medications are often prescribed.

Just a hypothesis, mind.

My aunt was taking Paxil for 3 years, back when Paxil was new. She got married while under treatment and it all seemed fine. She had a relapse 4 years into the marriage. They were already settled and wanted a family and, as hard as they tried, my uncle couldn't get her pregnant. They tried it for 2 years, her shrink had already switched meds to Wellbutrin. Nothing. She went to the OBGYN and she told her that all seemed fine except her entire reproductive system was tense and her mucus had changed so much, it was too thick to let the sperm go through. She tried psychotherapy. Nothing. But her husband was pressing her for a baby, and the stress just made her cave in. They separated after that.

And they didn't try, say, adopting?

[Hiddenrun]

Oh bother. I am asking because, did you check the question on the OP? Why else would she open a topic if not discuss something that affects her directly? Since she did, I am asking if she's the one suffering through this because my aunt suffered from it for years. She was undergoing treatment for her panic attacks and the medicines used plus the stress placed on her caused her psychosomatic sterility. She couldn't try as she might, to get pregnant. Her husband left her for that.

Psychotherapy is the only way to go with this. Plus, she needs a relaxing place and as little stress as possible.

Women who have panic attacks probably shouldn't breed anyway. Children are the definition of stress.

Then again, if crack whores can spit out babies, why not women who can't handle the stress of everyday life?

[Heinleinites]

I've never heard of psychosomatic sterility, personally. I wouldn't automatically discount the possibility though. A psychological component is sometimes ascribed to impotence, so I suppose one could argue that that is sychosomatic sterility. There is such a thing as Couvade Syndrome, also known as "sympathetic pregnancy." There is also Briquet's Disorder where psychological distress may be expressed as physical symptoms.

[Minnas]

Oh bother. I am asking because, did you check the question on the OP? Why else would she open a topic if not discuss something that affects her directly?

I'm afraid to tell you that some people find or are given articles, books, and other sources, and become interested in the topic. I myself have never owned a gun, had to wrangle with concealed carry laws, nor have I ever smoked pot or used any other illegal drug. Yet, I have made topics on all of these.

Since she did, I am asking if she's the one suffering through this because my aunt suffered from it for years. She was undergoing treatment for her panic attacks and the medicines used plus the stress placed on her caused her psychosomatic sterility. She couldn't try as she might, to get pregnant. Her husband left her for that.

I'm afraid sob stories aren't going to work here. It's my amateur opinion that you're trying to cover up the reason for your continued accusation.

Psychotherapy is the only way to go with this. Plus, she needs a relaxing place and as little stress as possible.

And I suppose you are qualified to say that those are the only possible treatments, and once more, you continue the accusation.

Are you going to participate of the discussion or just accuse me of trolling and flaming when I am interested on the subject?

[United Dependencies]

psychosomatic what?

Oh and galloism you need to control that computer of yours.

[Minnas]

I've read a little bit (all from links from various NSG discussions on the subject, too) that certain medications, especially the ones used to treat depression and anxiety and such, can have the side effects of lowering sex drive, increasing the incidence of impotence/sterility, et cetera. If true -- it was all on Wiki, unfortunately -- this could explain the rising rates of asexuality, involuntary celibacy, and love shyness in Western society where such medications are often prescribed.

Just a hypothesis, mind.

My aunt was taking Paxil for 3 years, back when Paxil was new. She got married while under treatment and it all seemed fine. She had a relapse 4 years into the marriage. They were already settled and wanted a family and, as hard as they tried, my uncle couldn't get her pregnant. They tried it for 2 years, her shrink had already switched meds to Wellbutrin. Nothing. She went to the OBGYN and she told her that all seemed fine except her entire reproductive system was tense and her mucus had changed so much, it was too thick to let the sperm go through. She tried psychotherapy. Nothing. But her husband was pressing her for a baby, and the stress just made her cave in. They separated after that.

And they didn't try, say, adopting?

That man was a prick. My aunt suggested it, at least until she could get better. Psychosomatic sterility isn't permanent and with psychotherapy it can be cured. But he said he wanted a child from his loins. He was an asshole.

[Minnas]

Oh bother. I am asking because, did you check the question on the OP? Why else would she open a topic if not discuss something that affects her directly? Since she did, I am asking if she's the one suffering through this because my aunt suffered from it for years. She was undergoing treatment for her panic attacks and the medicines used plus the stress placed on her caused her psychosomatic sterility. She couldn't try as she might, to get pregnant. Her husband left her for that.

Psychotherapy is the only way to go with this. Plus, she needs a relaxing place and as little stress as possible.

Women who have panic attacks probably shouldn't breed anyway. Children are the definition of stress.

Then again, if crack whores can spit out babies, why not women who can't handle the stress of everyday life?

I am a bitch but, dude, that comment was cold. Motherhood is something incredibly important to many women, regardless of wether she suffers from panic attacks or not. What, does depression makes you less of a woman or a man now?

[Conserative Morality]

Are you going to participate of the discussion or just accuse me of trolling and flaming when I am interested on the subject?

I'm going to accuse you of trolling if I believe you are trolling.

[Minnas]

Are you going to participate of the discussion or just accuse me of trolling and flaming when I am interested on the subject?

I'm going to accuse you of trolling if I believe you are trolling.

Then call a mod to the thread and have him/her check my posts to see if I am trolling.

[Hiddenrun]

I am a bitch but, dude, that comment was cold. Motherhood is something incredibly important to many women, regardless of wether she suffers from panic attacks or not. What, does depression makes you less of a woman or a man now?

Does lack of children make you less of a woman or man now? Of course women aspire to motherhood, even the ones who claim they don't. It's a biological imperative. But some women aren't fit to be mothers, my dirtbag ex for example. Just because you have functioning ovaries doesn't mean you have the intelligence, patience, or sanity to bear children. So sort your own life out before you go and fuck up someone else's, women.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Can they truly affect the body in such a way as to render, for example, a female or a male sterile?

I suspect you mean impotent.

Does your boyfriend like it when you talk about his problems?

I'm not talking about my boyfriend's problems since I don't think I have one. I am talking about something I was told today, suffice it, and it concerns me.

[Greed and Death]

Oh bother. I am asking because, did you check the question on the OP? Why else would she open a topic if not discuss something that affects her directly? Since she did, I am asking if she's the one suffering through this because my aunt suffered from it for years. She was undergoing treatment for her panic attacks and the medicines used plus the stress placed on her caused her psychosomatic sterility. She couldn't try as she might, to get pregnant. Her husband left her for that.

Psychotherapy is the only way to go with this. Plus, she needs a relaxing place and as little stress as possible.

Women who have panic attacks probably shouldn't breed anyway. Children are the definition of stress.

Then again, if crack whores can spit out babies, why not women who can't handle the stress of everyday life?

lots of people have panic attacks.
I wouldn't discount the ability to be a mother from that.

[Minnas]

I am a bitch but, dude, that comment was cold. Motherhood is something incredibly important to many women, regardless of wether she suffers from panic attacks or not. What, does depression makes you less of a woman or a man now?

Does lack of children make you less of a woman or man now? Of course women aspire to motherhood, even the ones who claim they don't. It's a biological imperative. But some women aren't fit to be mothers, my dirtbag ex for example. Just because you have functioning ovaries doesn't mean you have the intelligence, patience, or sanity to bear children. So sort your own life out before you go and fuck up someone else's, women.

Just because you seem to have been burned by a little slut doesn't mean I, as a woman, will stand and let you berate us when, just by this comment I know, oh I know, you know jack-shit about what you're talking about.