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Do you think Hitler was insane?

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Somewhat
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Only a little
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Minnysota
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Postby Minnysota » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:43 pm

If you actually read my TG, I did say that Napoleon was progressive. He was progressive up until his total seizure of power, and I didn't really even learn much about what he did with France during his seizure of power other than conquer nations and building up a huge empire. I also did not say that the French Revolution was progressive. If it came out that way, I worded it wrong. I wouldn't call the beheading of thousands of people who were against or who people thought were against the Revolution progressive. Now please, either take this to TG or stop responding, because this isn't talking about Hitler's mental state.
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Postby Scientific socks » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:43 pm

Hitler did survive 42 Assasination attempts. If I knew I survived that many attempts I would think there was a higher power supporting me as well.
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:46 pm

Minnysota wrote:If you actually read my TG, I did say that Napoleon was progressive. He was progressive up until his total seizure of power, and I didn't really even learn much about what he did with France during his seizure of power other than conquer nations and building up a huge empire. I also did not say that the French Revolution was progressive. If it came out that way, I worded it wrong. I wouldn't call the beheading of thousands of people who were against or who people thought were against the Revolution progressive. Now please, either take this to TG or stop responding, because this isn't talking about Hitler's mental state.

So you admit to talking out your ass took you long enough and yes you did call the French Revolution progress.

Minnysota wrote:[Wait, so ending the progress of the French Revolution and instating himself as the total ruler of France is progressive? Mhm.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:47 pm

Hitler says Napoleon needs to butt out and get his own thread or he is going to start gassing Francophiles.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:48 pm

No, he was a perfectly reasonable and sane person who simply cared for the well-being of the world and all who lived in it.
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Postby Trotskylvania » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:49 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
Minnysota wrote:
I still don't get how you at all think I said that chopping heads off was progressive. The French Revolution was a mess, and extremely violent. What I was saying, is that France endured so much shit to get rid of the absolute monarchy they had, just to get to Napoleon making himself the total ruler of France followed by King Louis XVIII after he was instated as king at the Congress of Vienna.

You said the French Revolution was more progressive then Napoleon. Yet he was quite progressive that you don't like the fact has to do with your own ideological problems. You have still failed to address how Code Napoleon, restructuring of Class and Jewish Suffrage was not extremely progressive. In fact all you have done is whined that he was an autocrat. Get the fuck over it.

Let's not kid ourselves here. Napoleon also reinstated slavery, which had been outlawed by the Jacobins, and tried desperately to hold onto the slave empire in Haiti. Napoleon was no less of a mixed bag then the Jacobins or Girondists. He executed his opponents just as ruthlessly as Robespierre.
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Postby Minnysota » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:50 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
Minnysota wrote:If you actually read my TG, I did say that Napoleon was progressive. He was progressive up until his total seizure of power, and I didn't really even learn much about what he did with France during his seizure of power other than conquer nations and building up a huge empire. I also did not say that the French Revolution was progressive. If it came out that way, I worded it wrong. I wouldn't call the beheading of thousands of people who were against or who people thought were against the Revolution progressive. Now please, either take this to TG or stop responding, because this isn't talking about Hitler's mental state.

So you admit to talking out your ass took you long enough and yes you did call the French Revolution progress.

Minnysota wrote:[Wait, so ending the progress of the French Revolution and instating himself as the total ruler of France is progressive? Mhm.


I meant that going from an absolute monarchy to an absolute monarchy, after enduring all of that, isn't necessarily progressive. My apologies, I worded that wrong.

Again, I was not talking out of my ass. I had not learned what had happened to the social policies Napoleon put in after he became the Emperor of France. My point still stands, Napoleon became corrupted by power, as did Hitler.
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Panzerjaeger
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:52 pm

Minnysota wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:So you admit to talking out your ass took you long enough and yes you did call the French Revolution progress.



I meant that going from an absolute monarchy to an absolute monarchy, after enduring all of that, isn't necessarily progressive. My apologies, I worded that wrong.

Again, I was not talking out of my ass. I had not learned what had happened to the social policies Napoleon put in after he became the Emperor of France. My point still stands, Napoleon became corrupted by power, as did Hitler.

Orly? So you once again compare Hitler to Napoleon. How quaint. God you are an idiot. You admit to having no fucking clue to what the man did but he is comparable to Hitler. Outfuckingstanding Logic. :clap:
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Postby CTALNH » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:33 pm

Insane no Evil little guy who wanted to kill all jews and slavs yes
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Postby St George of England » Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:58 am

Minnysota wrote:
The Corparation wrote:He wouldn't of won. He'd of just been able to surrender and not have his country split up into pieces.


Depending on what Japan did, Germany could have won the European, North African, and Middle East (?) Theaters during WWII. I'm not claiming this idea as my own, but I can't remember who told me this, but had Japan attacked India instead of the US, then there are many scenarios that branch off of that which would result in Britain being forced out of the war.

Except, of course, a Japanese invasion of India would've failed.
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Postby Innsmothe » Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:04 am

Hitler was very Irrational, repeating many of the mistakes made in WWI, like invading Russia when engaging in another front . I mean WTF?!
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Postby St George of England » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:06 am

Innsmothe wrote:Hitler was very Irrational, repeating many of the mistakes made in WWI, like invading Russia when engaging in another front . I mean WTF?!

WW1 started on the Eastern Front. Russia declared war on Austria-Hungary who had declared war on Serbia. Germany declared war on Austria in response. Kaiser Wilhelm had no choice but to fight a war on two fronts.
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Postby Lordieth » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:15 am

It depends on your definition of insane. A partial sociopath with meglomania is more fitting.
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Postby French Union » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:26 am

I don't think so, he was an idiot for ignoring lessons in history and advice from his generals. He properly was a narcissist.

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Postby Innsmothe » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:30 am

St George of England wrote:
Innsmothe wrote:Hitler was very Irrational, repeating many of the mistakes made in WWI, like invading Russia when engaging in another front . I mean WTF?!

WW1 started on the Eastern Front. Russia declared war on Austria-Hungary who had declared war on Serbia. Germany declared war on Austria in response. Kaiser Wilhelm had no choice but to fight a war on two fronts.

I meant the mistake Hitler made was to fight on two front's wilingly.


I know German history dammit.
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Postby Sanyette » Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:17 am

Anybody who would get a moustache like that must be insane.
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A sack of potatoes
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Postby A sack of potatoes » Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:23 am

No. He was very wise.

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Postby River Nate » Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:57 am

Psychiatrists say Hitler showed some psychiatric symptoms but at the same time he also appeared normal and claimed he knew what he was doing. They can't diagnose him because according to one of them, "Nothing fits, and everything fits."

Maybe psychiatrists should just come up with "Hitler Syndrome".

After all, they consider a lot of uncommon sets of behaviors as mental illnesses and give them names.
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Postby Unilisia » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:03 am

No. He was a dumbass.

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Postby Beldonia » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:04 am

You know, given the circumstances and what Germany was going through, a case for the justification of the Holocaust (sorry for the possible misspelling) could be made.

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Postby Apollonesia » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:06 am

Was he INSANE?

... Why would you say that? :p

He was a stupid Kraut who thought it would be fun to wipe out my people.

Was he insane? I wouldn't say he had a mental condition, just an extremely distorted view of reality. He had problems, and the atrocities he committed were... well, atrocious. But I doubt he had a SERIOUS mental condition.

Years ago, I'd start ranting about Shitler whenever he was brought up, but I'm being realistic now.
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Postby Unilisia » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:07 am

Apollonesia wrote:Was he INSANE?

... Why would you say that? :p

He was a stupid Kraut who thought it would be fun to wipe out my people.

Was he insane? I wouldn't say he had a mental condition, just an extremely distorted view of reality. He had problems, and the atrocities he committed were... well, atrocious. But I doubt he had a SERIOUS mental condition.

Years ago, I'd start ranting about Shitler whenever he was brought up, but I'm being realistic now.


Yeah, calling a German a kraut is racist ;)
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Postby Beldonia » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:08 am

Unilisia wrote:
Apollonesia wrote:Was he INSANE?

... Why would you say that? :p

He was a stupid Kraut who thought it would be fun to wipe out my people.

Was he insane? I wouldn't say he had a mental condition, just an extremely distorted view of reality. He had problems, and the atrocities he committed were... well, atrocious. But I doubt he had a SERIOUS mental condition.

Years ago, I'd start ranting about Shitler whenever he was brought up, but I'm being realistic now.


Yeah, calling a German a kraut is racist ;)

Racism is allowed.

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Postby Unilisia » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:10 am

Beldonia wrote:
Unilisia wrote:
Yeah, calling a German a kraut is racist ;)

Racism is allowed.


Where in the site rules are people allowed to be racist ?
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Postby Beldonia » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:11 am

Unilisia wrote:
Beldonia wrote:Racism is allowed.


Where in the site rules are people allowed to be racist ?

They don't allow things, they prohibit things. I don't think the comment he made is actionable.

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