Was Hitler Insane?

[Minnysota]

IMO, he was, like Napoleon, corrupted by the amount of power he had just with his regime and with his military.

[Panzerjaeger]

IMO, he was, like Napoleon, corrupted by the amount of power he had just with his regime and with his military.

You just compared Hitler to Napoleon? Are you fucking serious? You are comparing one of the most progressive rulers of his time to a man who led the slaughter of "inferiors"?

[LoL island]

no i mean sooner, if he had listened to his generals and not invaded russia, cause he was strongly advised not to, but he wanted to have, i don't know a dick waving contest with the people selling him crap, one of the last people and he lost

badly

[Minnysota]

hmmm... let me th- YES OF COURSE HE WAS FUCKING CRAZY

HE WAS AN ART MAJOR, THAT BECAME ONE OF THE MOST EVIL PEOPLE IN HISTORY, AND IF HE LISTENED TO HIS GENERALS HE WOULD OF WON THE WAR

NOT TO MENTION THE MASSIVE FUCKING HOLOCAST

no, he was completely sane

He wouldn't of won. He'd of just been able to surrender and not have his country split up into pieces.

Depending on what Japan did, Germany could have won the European, North African, and Middle East (?) Theaters during WWII. I'm not claiming this idea as my own, but I can't remember who told me this, but had Japan attacked India instead of the US, then there are many scenarios that branch off of that which would result in Britain being forced out of the war.

[Hellsgrind]

Yes.

[Panzerjaeger]

no i mean sooner, if he had listened to his generals and not invaded russia, cause he was strongly advised not to, but he wanted to have, i don't know a dick waving contest with the people selling him crap, one of the last people and he lost

badly

OKH drew up the plans for Operation: Barbarossa in fact it was Hitler and Jodl who revised them. So you were saying?

[Minnysota]

IMO, he was, like Napoleon, corrupted by the amount of power he had just with his regime and with his military.

You just compared Hitler to Napoleon? Are you fucking serious? You are comparing one of the most progressive rulers of his time to a man who led the slaughter of "inferiors"?

Wait, so ending the progress of the French Revolution and instating himself as the total ruler of France is progressive? Mhm.

[Nazi Flower Power]

hmmm... let me th- YES OF COURSE HE WAS FUCKING CRAZY

HE WAS AN ART MAJOR, THAT BECAME ONE OF THE MOST EVIL PEOPLE IN HISTORY, AND IF HE LISTENED TO HIS GENERALS HE WOULD OF WON THE WAR

More like not fought the war, at least not with so many enemies. He really bit off more than he could chew even before he started ignoring the good advice of his generals. If he had listened to them, he could have kept Germany in a position to negotiate a peace on more favorable terms instead of just being flattened and surrendering, but Germany couldn't have held all the territory they occupied during the war. On the other hand, they could have avoided that whole Iron Curtain thing.

And Hitler was NOT an art major. He was denied admission to go to art school. I was an art major, and I'd appreciate it if you didn't lump me in the same category as my dumbass Fuehrer.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

How long before he turns on Poland?

And how, exactly, will he get all the Poles turned on?

A strategic combination of pole dancing and well-placed pierogies.

[The Black Forrest]

You just compared Hitler to Napoleon? Are you fucking serious? You are comparing one of the most progressive rulers of his time to a man who led the slaughter of "inferiors"?

Wait, so ending the progress of the French Revolution and instating himself as the total ruler of France is progressive? Mhm.

Madame Guillotine was progressive?

[Lunatic Goofballs]

And how, exactly, will he get all the Poles turned on?

By tackling them in the mud of course.

This will be my fallback position. It has served me well.

[Panzerjaeger]

You just compared Hitler to Napoleon? Are you fucking serious? You are comparing one of the most progressive rulers of his time to a man who led the slaughter of "inferiors"?

Wait, so ending the progress of the French Revolution and instating himself as the total ruler of France is progressive? Mhm.

Are you calling the fucking Reign of Terror progressive? Jesus Hopscotching Christ. If France was "Progressive" under Robespierre and his psychotics who were destroying the nation I would be scared what the fuck you would consider a good ruler. Code Napoleon, restructuring of Class within France and Jewish Suffrage isn't progressive? Really?

[Lunatic Goofballs]

There are good kinds and bad kinds of insane. Clearly he was the bad kind. It did not have to be so. He was nutty enough to want to be an artist. That's a good start, but something clearly went wrong. I suspect he needed to be tackled into mud more often than he was.

*continues working on time machine*

*grabs flux capacitor and mudwrestling clothes*

Need some help?

[Trotskylvania]

He wouldn't of won. He'd of just been able to surrender and not have his country split up into pieces.

Depending on what Japan did, Germany could have won the European, North African, and Middle East (?) Theaters during WWII. I'm not claiming this idea as my own, but I can't remember who told me this, but had Japan attacked India instead of the US, then there are many scenarios that branch off of that which would result in Britain being forced out of the war.

As long as the US is giving Lend-Lease to the Soviets, then outside of a very narrow window during September-October 1941, then defeat is pretty much inevitable on the Eastern Front.

The fundamental mistake that doomed the German war effort was Operation Typhoon. Rather than taking Leningrad in a decisive blow that Fall, and trying to shorten their supply lines, they decided to go straight for the heart at Moscow. With the sheer distances, and the state of Soviet rail transport, adding in the break of guage and the lack of rolling stock, basically the Germans had an insurmountable logistical problem.

[Minnysota]

Wait, so ending the progress of the French Revolution and instating himself as the total ruler of France is progressive? Mhm.

Are you calling the fucking Reign of Terror progressive? Jesus Hopscotching Christ. If France was "Progressive" under Robespierre and his psychotics who were destroying the nation I would be scared what the fuck you would consider a good ruler. Code Napoleon, restructuring of Class within France and Jewish Suffrage isn't progressive? Really?

Let us carry this over to TG.

[The Corparation]

He wouldn't of won. He'd of just been able to surrender and not have his country split up into pieces.

Depending on what Japan did, Germany could have won the European, North African, and Middle East (?) Theaters during WWII. I'm not claiming this idea as my own, but I can't remember who told me this, but had Japan attacked India instead of the US, then there are many scenarios that branch off of that which would result in Britain being forced out of the war.

America was already going to hop in. Japan was just a rallying point. We were already shipping Britain weapons. Hitler could of conquered all of Europe but he lacked the naval power to mount an attack on Britain.

[Panzerjaeger]

Are you calling the fucking Reign of Terror progressive? Jesus Hopscotching Christ. If France was "Progressive" under Robespierre and his psychotics who were destroying the nation I would be scared what the fuck you would consider a good ruler. Code Napoleon, restructuring of Class within France and Jewish Suffrage isn't progressive? Really?

Let us carry this over to TG.

Uh no you can't weasel out of it that easily. You just called Mass Murder via Guillotine fucking Progressive. You can go ahead and explain that bullshit right here. I had a relative executed by personal order of that Nutfuck Robespierre and seeing someone defend that as progressive is pretty damn hilarious if not pathetic.

[LoL island]

SEALIONS

[Trotskylvania]

Let us carry this over to TG.

Uh no you can't weasel out of it that easily. You just called Mass Murder via Guillotine fucking Progressive. You can go ahead and explain that bullshit right here. I had a relative executed by personal order of that Nutfuck Robespierre and seeing someone defend that as progressive is pretty damn hilarious if not pathetic.

The Great Terror is often quite exaggerated, for one. The number of victims can be numbered in the thousands. Further, it wasn't a direct continuity from Robespierre to Napoleon. After the overthrow of the Jacobins, there were several changes of power under various groups, such as the Girondists, the Directorate, etc., before Napoleon even became consul, let alone crowning himself Emperor.

It was the self-crowning as Emperor of France that disillusioned a lot of liberals in Europe. For example, Beethoven's Fourth Symphony, I believe, was originally dedicated to Napoleon, but right before the debut performance, he crowned himself Emperor, so Beethoven rededicated it to the French Revolution.

[Panzerjaeger]

Uh no you can't weasel out of it that easily. You just called Mass Murder via Guillotine fucking Progressive. You can go ahead and explain that bullshit right here. I had a relative executed by personal order of that Nutfuck Robespierre and seeing someone defend that as progressive is pretty damn hilarious if not pathetic.

The Great Terror is often quite exaggerated, for one. The number of victims can be numbered in the thousands. Further, it wasn't a direct continuity from Robespierre to Napoleon. After the overthrow of the Jacobins, there were several changes of power under various groups, such as the Girondists, the Directorate, etc., before Napoleon even became consul, let alone crowning himself Emperor.

It was the self-crowning as Emperor of France that disillusioned a lot of liberals in Europe. For example, Beethoven's Fourth Symphony, I believe, was originally dedicated to Napoleon, but right before the debut performance, he crowned himself Emperor, so Beethoven rededicated it to the French Revolution.

And so what? He crowned himself and it was done in a way to remove Papal authority over the crown. All I see is a lot of boohooing that you Reds couldn't slaughter people with guillotines anymore and that order was brought to Chaos.

[Minnysota]

Let us carry this over to TG.

Uh no you can't weasel out of it that easily. You just called Mass Murder via Guillotine fucking Progressive. You can go ahead and explain that bullshit right here. I had a relative executed by personal order of that Nutfuck Robespierre and seeing someone defend that as progressive is pretty damn hilarious if not pathetic.

It isn't related to the topic describing what was progressive in the French Revolution and was wasn't.

[Panzerjaeger]

Uh no you can't weasel out of it that easily. You just called Mass Murder via Guillotine fucking Progressive. You can go ahead and explain that bullshit right here. I had a relative executed by personal order of that Nutfuck Robespierre and seeing someone defend that as progressive is pretty damn hilarious if not pathetic.

It isn't related to the topic describing what was progressive in the French Revolution and was wasn't.

Except it was you then ran off to cry about how people don't share your vision of cutting off heads as progressive.

[Minnysota]

It isn't related to the topic describing what was progressive in the French Revolution and was wasn't.

Except it was you then ran off to cry about how people don't share your vision of cutting off heads as progressive.

I still don't get how you at all think I said that chopping heads off was progressive. The French Revolution was a mess, and extremely violent. What I was saying, is that France endured so much shit to get rid of the absolute monarchy they had, just to get to Napoleon making himself the total ruler of France followed by King Louis XVIII after he was instated as king at the Congress of Vienna.

[Panzerjaeger]

Except it was you then ran off to cry about how people don't share your vision of cutting off heads as progressive.

I still don't get how you at all think I said that chopping heads off was progressive. The French Revolution was a mess, and extremely violent. What I was saying, is that France endured so much shit to get rid of the absolute monarchy they had, just to get to Napoleon making himself the total ruler of France followed by King Louis XVIII after he was instated as king at the Congress of Vienna.

You said the French Revolution was more progressive then Napoleon. Yet he was quite progressive that you don't like the fact has to do with your own ideological problems. You have still failed to address how Code Napoleon, restructuring of Class and Jewish Suffrage was not extremely progressive. In fact all you have done is whined that he was an autocrat. Get the fuck over it.

[New Korongo]

No, well not at first