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Do you think Hitler was insane?

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Somewhat
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Only a little
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No
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Hell no!
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Was Hitler Insane?

Postby Geilinor » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:34 pm

Do you think Hitler was insane?
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:39 pm

Come on, post!
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Postby NERVUN » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:42 pm

Geilinor wrote:Come on, post!

There is no need to bump like that.
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Postby New Manvir » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:45 pm

I've heard he was a meth user. That doesn't exactly make him insane though.

One of the earliest uses of methamphetamine was during World War II, when it was used by Axis and Allied forces.[10] The German military dispensed it under the trademark name Pervitin. It was widely distributed across rank and division, from elite forces to tank crews and aircraft personnel, with many millions of tablets being distributed throughout the war.[11] From 1942 until his death in 1945, Adolf Hitler may have been given intravenous injections of methamphetamine by his personal physician Theodor Morell. It is possible that it was used to treat Hitler's speculated Parkinson's disease, or that his Parkinson-like symptoms that developed from 1940 onwards resulted from using methamphetamine.[12] In Japan, methamphetamine was sold under the registered trademark of Philopon (ヒロポン, hiropon?) by Dainippon Sumitomo Pharma for civilian and military use. As with the rest of the world at the time, the side effects of methamphetamine were not well studied, and regulation was not seen as necessary.
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Postby Brandenburg-Altmark » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:48 pm

No. He had priorities most of us do not share, and was violent and hateful towards groups he viewed as inferior, but he wasn't insane. He knew damn well what he was doing.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:49 pm

I've heard people say he was somewhat insane. However, I don't know for sure if he was actually mentally unstable. He might've been.
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Postby Wamitoria » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:49 pm

Was he mentally disturbed? Yes. Was he certifiably insane? No.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:53 pm

His mental state had probably deteriorated in the waning days of the war, but I don't think he was insane from the get-go. I think, during the Great War, he was impressed upon by antisemites and German nationalists, and fell into believing what that crowd had to say. Impressionable maybe, but not insane.

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Postby Mongolian Khanate » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:54 pm

I say no.

As humans, we just seek comfort by establishing the largest moral gap between us and him. We seek to deshumanize him by thinking that no sane and rational individual would act in the same way he did. I believe that to think so, is to make a fatal mistake. He was one of our kind, and should serve as a reminder that each of us is capable of the best and worse.
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Postby Mongolian Khanate » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:55 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:His mental state had probably deteriorated in the waning days of the war, but I don't think he was insane from the get-go. I think, during the Great War, he was impressed upon by antisemites and German nationalists, and fell into believing what that crowd had to say. Impressionable maybe, but not insane.


I'd tend to agree, but I feel I should also point out that the mental stress one in his position in the late stage of the war, coupled with the self-medication, would take it's toll on even the sanest individual
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:56 pm

He wasn't insane in the sense of having a mental illness, but he had a real talent for seeing what he wanted to see and ignoring what he didn't want to see. He was very good at being willfully ignorant and ignoring reality when it didn't live up to his fantasies.
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Postby Brandenburg-Altmark » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:57 pm

Mongolian Khanate wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:His mental state had probably deteriorated in the waning days of the war, but I don't think he was insane from the get-go. I think, during the Great War, he was impressed upon by antisemites and German nationalists, and fell into believing what that crowd had to say. Impressionable maybe, but not insane.


I'd tend to agree, but I feel I should also point out that the mental stress one in his position in the late stage of the war, coupled with the self-medication, would take it's toll on even the sanest individual


There's no doubt he suffered from stress disorder or severe depression by 1944, but to call him insane seems like it would do more harm to using him as an example of the wrong things to do when you have the kind of power he held on the world stage. It gives an excuse for his behavior, however inadvertent. "Oh, he was insane so you can't expect better of him!"
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Postby Mongolian Khanate » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:59 pm

Brandenburg-Altmark wrote:
Mongolian Khanate wrote:
I'd tend to agree, but I feel I should also point out that the mental stress one in his position in the late stage of the war, coupled with the self-medication, would take it's toll on even the sanest individual


There's no doubt he suffered from stress disorder or severe depression by 1944, but to call him insane seems like it would do more harm to using him as an example of the wrong things to do when you have the kind of power he held on the world stage. It gives an excuse for his behavior, however inadvertent. "Oh, he was insane so you can't expect better of him!"


Exactly. Hell, I'd be depressed too if I was leader of 1944 Nazi Germany.
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Postby Wamitoria » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:01 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:His mental state had probably deteriorated in the waning days of the war, but I don't think he was insane from the get-go. I think, during the Great War, he was impressed upon by antisemites and German nationalists, and fell into believing what that crowd had to say. Impressionable maybe, but not insane.

Very impressionable, actually. IIRC, he was involved with the Communists during the abortive Bavarian Revolution.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:01 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:In many ways

But he was right about the Jews

Isn't that a large turn around. :p

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Postby Takaram » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:02 pm

Not in the beginning, no. But I heard that he was slowly affected by syphilis, which kinda screwed his mind up.

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Postby POLISH RUSSIA » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:04 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I've heard people say he was somewhat insane. However, I don't know for sure if he was actually mentally unstable. He might've been.



well it is said that in the beginning of his reign in Germany, there was nothing wrong with him. he knew what he was doing but towards the end of the war, that is when he starts to get all paranoid...
you have to kinda figure too.....People have tried to kill him 15 to 20 times....So one could only imagine what was going thorough his mind towards the end....

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Postby Ex-Brogavia » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:34 pm

At first, not really, probably some PTSD from the Great War but not much more, by 1940, off balance and power drunk, and the tipping point where he finally descended into madness was July 20, 1944.
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Postby Trotskylvania » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:42 pm

if you count megalomania as a form of insanity, then yes.
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Postby Lonelyloner » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:55 pm

psychopath

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Postby Rolamec » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:01 pm

Hell yeah.
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Postby Wamitoria » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:02 pm

Lonelyloner wrote:psychopath

I'm pretty sure he was capable of having psychological or emotional attachments to others. I mean, the guy wasn't Stalin.
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:03 pm

Wamitoria wrote:
Lonelyloner wrote:psychopath

I'm pretty sure he was capable of having psychological or emotional attachments to others. I mean, the guy wasn't Stalin.


Or Charlie Sheen.
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Postby AETEN II » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:03 pm

D'oh, insanity ran in his family, that coupled with a violent childhood gives you a really fucked up dude.
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Postby Ex-Brogavia » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:07 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:I'm pretty sure he was capable of having psychological or emotional attachments to others. I mean, the guy wasn't Stalin.


Or Charlie Sheen.


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