School lobbied to stop electric shock ban

[The Bleeding Roses]

I am saying that the trained doctors know what's best for their own fucking patients, not highschoolers on NSG.

http://www.judgerc.org/beforeafterphotos.html

Seems like they are doing something right...

You're right. Electrocuting is always the best thing to do.

Where did I say that? At least make your bait attempts less obvious.

[The Corparation]

Now, of two of the people I feel closest to, one has been diagnosed with autism and aspergers, one has recently been dubbed an insomniac and potentially schizophrenic. In none of their cases does this prevent them from having a full and happy life; this facility, however, would see them electrocuted for little more than a phone call from someone claiming to be a doctor at this facility. Or perhaps they would choose to shock them for looking away for a moment, because one is fairly hyperactive. So, your claim would be that they'd be justified in that torture? Because none of us here 'know what the fuck [we] are talking about'?

I am saying that the trained doctors know what's best for their own fucking patients, not highschoolers on NSG.

http://www.judgerc.org/beforeafterphotos.html

Seems like they are doing something right...

If this works so damn well then, why aren't more schools for the disabled using systems like this? Furthermore just because something gives a desired effect, doesn't mean it should be done often or at all. These shocks are being given out for minor rule breaking. As punishment. Not as treatment.

EIDT:Just did a tiny bit more research, and this center also apparently will withhold up to 3/4 of your daily food as punishment. They've also shocked students based on a prank call from a former student,and used physical restraints on students they weren't supposed to.

[Wiztopia]

You're right. Electrocuting is always the best thing to do.

Where did I say that? At least make your bait attempts less obvious.

You obviously support the shockings by your earlier posts.

[The Bleeding Roses]

I am saying that the trained doctors know what's best for their own fucking patients, not highschoolers on NSG.

http://www.judgerc.org/beforeafterphotos.html

Seems like they are doing something right...

If this works so damn well then, why aren't more schools for the disabled using systems like this? Furthermore just because something gives a desired effect, doesn't mean it should be done often or at all. These shocks are being given out for minor rule breaking. As punishment. Not as treatment.

Perhaps other schools haven't caught on yet?

Furthermore, how is punishment not treatment? Punishment corrects behavior which is a symptom of the illness...

[The Bleeding Roses]

Where did I say that? At least make your bait attempts less obvious.

You obviously support the shockings by your earlier posts.

Once again, where the fuck did I say "Electrocuting is always the best thing to do."?

[The Corparation]

If this works so damn well then, why aren't more schools for the disabled using systems like this? Furthermore just because something gives a desired effect, doesn't mean it should be done often or at all. These shocks are being given out for minor rule breaking. As punishment. Not as treatment.

Perhaps other schools haven't caught on yet?

Furthermore, how is punishment not treatment? Punishment corrects behavior which is a symptom of the illness...

How is swearing or glancing out the window an illness? Because these are the kinds of behaviors they're shocking kids for. Yes they might work. But then again they also have side effects that are just as bad as what they're trying to "Cure"

[The Bleeding Roses]

Perhaps other schools haven't caught on yet?

Furthermore, how is punishment not treatment? Punishment corrects behavior which is a symptom of the illness...

How is swearing or glancing out the window an illness? Because these are the kinds of behaviors they're shocking kids for. Yes they might work. But then again they also have side effects that are just as bad as what they're trying to "Cure"

Diarrhea is a side effect of Taco Bell... Taco Bell is a cure for starvation. See, I can play that card too.

Btw, ever heard of tourettes?

[The Corparation]

How is swearing or glancing out the window an illness? Because these are the kinds of behaviors they're shocking kids for. Yes they might work. But then again they also have side effects that are just as bad as what they're trying to "Cure"

Diarrhea is a side effect of Taco Bell... Taco Bell is a cure for starvation. See, I can play that card too.

Btw, ever heard of tourettes?

1)Things like malnourishment and PTSD are a lot worse then a bit of diarrhea.
2) These people don't have tourettes, they have autisim. And if there is one that has tourettes shocking him every ten seconds isn't going to to cure him, it'll drive him insane.

[The Bleeding Roses]

Diarrhea is a side effect of Taco Bell... Taco Bell is a cure for starvation. See, I can play that card too.

Btw, ever heard of tourettes?

1)Things like malnourishment and PTSD are a lot worse then a bit of diarrhea.
2) These people don't have tourettes, they have autisim. And if there is one that has tourettes shocking him every ten seconds isn't going to to cure him, it'll drive him insane.

Malnourishment is a result of poor diet, not taking a fucking zap to the leg.
PTSD is a poorly understood creation of the 21st century, there is no definitive research linking the two. Furthermore, I would argue that keeping a child from physically harming themselves and others is of primary importance.

[The Corparation]

1)Things like malnourishment and PTSD are a lot worse then a bit of diarrhea.
2) These people don't have tourettes, they have autisim. And if there is one that has tourettes shocking him every ten seconds isn't going to to cure him, it'll drive him insane.

Malnourishment is a result of poor diet, not taking a fucking zap to the leg.
PTSD is a poorly understood creation of the 21st century, there is no definitive research linking the two. Furthermore, I would argue that keeping a child from physically harming themselves and others is of primary importance.

Malnourishment comes form the fact that they often only give them 1/4 of the food they need as a punishment, in addition to the constant shocks. PTSD is not due to the malnourishment, its due to the fact they are being brutally shocked against their will. And giving a kid one poorly understood mental illness to try and cure a different poorly understood mental illness does no seem the smartest thing to do. There are ways to prevent a child from harming themselves then using electric shocks. Like Straitjackets.

[The Bleeding Roses]

Malnourishment is a result of poor diet, not taking a fucking zap to the leg.
PTSD is a poorly understood creation of the 21st century, there is no definitive research linking the two. Furthermore, I would argue that keeping a child from physically harming themselves and others is of primary importance.

Malnourishment comes form the fact that they often only give them 1/4 of the food they need as a punishment, in addition to the constant shocks. PTSD is not due to the malnourishment, its due to the fact they are being brutally shocked against their will. And giving a kid one poorly understood mental illness to try and cure a different poorly understood mental illness does no seem the smartest thing to do. There are ways to prevent a child from harming themselves then using electric shocks. Like Straitjackets.

This is a school, not a 20s mental hospital. A straitjacket is far more barbarous than a small shock...

[Wiztopia]

You obviously support the shockings by your earlier posts.

Once again, where the fuck did I say "Electrocuting is always the best thing to do."?

You seem to think the school is doing the right thing. So you support them electrocuting the children.

[The Bleeding Roses]

Once again, where the fuck did I say "Electrocuting is always the best thing to do."?

You seem to think the school is doing the right thing. So you support them electrocuting the children.

I support a doctor's right to do what he thinks is in the best interest of his patient.

[L3 Communications]

1)Things like malnourishment and PTSD are a lot worse then a bit of diarrhea.
2) These people don't have tourettes, they have autisim. And if there is one that has tourettes shocking him every ten seconds isn't going to to cure him, it'll drive him insane.

Malnourishment is a result of poor diet, not taking a fucking zap to the leg.
PTSD is a poorly understood creation of the 21st century, there is no definitive research linking the two. Furthermore, I would argue that keeping a child from physically harming themselves and others is of primary importance.

lollin irl

just lol

i bet you a psych degree to back it up too

Malnourishment comes form the fact that they often only give them 1/4 of the food they need as a punishment, in addition to the constant shocks. PTSD is not due to the malnourishment, its due to the fact they are being brutally shocked against their will. And giving a kid one poorly understood mental illness to try and cure a different poorly understood mental illness does no seem the smartest thing to do. There are ways to prevent a child from harming themselves then using electric shocks. Like Straitjackets.

This is a school, not a 20s mental hospital. A straitjacket is far more barbarous than a small shock...

rly it sounds liek it

[The Corparation]

Malnourishment comes form the fact that they often only give them 1/4 of the food they need as a punishment, in addition to the constant shocks. PTSD is not due to the malnourishment, its due to the fact they are being brutally shocked against their will. And giving a kid one poorly understood mental illness to try and cure a different poorly understood mental illness does no seem the smartest thing to do. There are ways to prevent a child from harming themselves then using electric shocks. Like Straitjackets.

This is a school, not a 20s mental hospital. A straitjacket is far more barbarous than a small shock...

Right, if its one shock. But its not just one shock. And a straightjkacket is a lot more humane in the longrun then strapping them down and shocking them if they try to get up, they look away. OR the best is when they hold them down and tell them to misbehave. If they don't misbehave they get shocked. If they do, they get shocked even more. Doesn't exactly seem to me the best "Cure" for anything.

[Geniasis]

1)Things like malnourishment and PTSD are a lot worse then a bit of diarrhea.
2) These people don't have tourettes, they have autisim. And if there is one that has tourettes shocking him every ten seconds isn't going to to cure him, it'll drive him insane.

Malnourishment is a result of poor diet, not taking a fucking zap to the leg.
PTSD is a poorly understood creation of the 21st century, there is no definitive research linking the two. Furthermore, I would argue that keeping a child from physically harming themselves and others is of primary importance.

Well, I used to believe PTSD existed, but your vastly superior knowledge has convinced me otherwise.

[Xsyne]

1)Things like malnourishment and PTSD are a lot worse then a bit of diarrhea.
2) These people don't have tourettes, they have autisim. And if there is one that has tourettes shocking him every ten seconds isn't going to to cure him, it'll drive him insane.

Malnourishment is a result of poor diet, not taking a fucking zap to the leg.
PTSD is a poorly understood creation of the 21st century, there is no definitive research linking the two. Furthermore, I would argue that keeping a child from physically harming themselves and others is of primary importance.

I was unaware the Vietnam War happened in the last decade.

[Geniasis]

Malnourishment is a result of poor diet, not taking a fucking zap to the leg.
PTSD is a poorly understood creation of the 21st century, there is no definitive research linking the two. Furthermore, I would argue that keeping a child from physically harming themselves and others is of primary importance.

I was unaware the Vietnam War happened in the last decade.

It's been a long ten years.

[L3 Communications]

Malnourishment is a result of poor diet, not taking a fucking zap to the leg.
PTSD is a poorly understood creation of the 21st century, there is no definitive research linking the two. Furthermore, I would argue that keeping a child from physically harming themselves and others is of primary importance.

Well, I used to believe PTSD existed, but your vastly superior knowledge has convinced me otherwise.

Upon review, I agree.

Clearly Partheon has us beat. Shame, I thought I was on the right track listening to all those reputable doctors with the letters behind their name of mine telling me things like "You have PTSD" and stuff.

Damn, they must be wrong.

[Geniasis]

Well, I used to believe PTSD existed, but your vastly superior knowledge has convinced me otherwise.

Upon review, I agree.

Clearly Partheon has us beat. Shame, I thought I was on the right track listening to all those reputable doctors with the letters behind their name of mine telling me things like "You have PTSD" and stuff.

Damn, they must be wrong.

Bleeding heart liberals, the lot of them. Here's a shot of shark testosterone. That'll fix you right up.

[Kubrath]

Schocking!

[Brandenburg-Altmark]

I was unaware the Vietnam War happened in the last decade.

It's been a long ten years.

Yeah, World War I happened as well, which led to the first ruminations of this excuse for cowardice called "Shell shock."

[Xsyne]

It's been a long ten years.

Yeah, World War I happened as well, which led to the first ruminations of this excuse for cowardice called "Shell shock."

After some quick searching I learned that Herodotus was writing this past decade as well.

[Rolamec]

Hey it worked for Tom Eagleton...sort of!

[The Corparation]

Schocking!

Ohm my god, lets not start anymore electrical puns on this thread.