Are Wisconsin Democrats doing the right thing?

[Sedgistan]

How about you free your pathetic little mind?

No really - attack the argument, not the person making it. You're close to getting a 1 day ban for your inability to learn.

Also:

I love getting laughs at your expense. I'm less angry now.

That sounds like a confession to baiting other posters. Do not do it.

[Alien Space Bats]

Doing the right thing?

Leaving a threat of laying off Public Sector workers by April 1st if they (Democrats) didn't go back to work? (Hey can't pass a budget without you, ya idiots)

Walker seem to be just begging for a general strike with that one.

General strikes are illegal in the United States.

[Helertia]

Walker seem to be just begging for a general strike with that one.

General strikes are illegal in the United States.

Really? Why?

[Alien Space Bats]

General strikes are illegal in the United States.

Really? Why?

Because Supreme Court rulings from the earlier half of the last century ruled them a violation of anti-trust law, and the exceptions subsequently granted to unions under the Wagner Act (and other laws) do not extend to secondary strikes.

In essence, a union cannot go on strike in support of another union. Oh, and public sector unions can only go on strike if their state permits it.

There's aren't going to be any strikes over this in Wisconsin or anywhere else. This isn't Europe.

[Helertia]

Really? Why?

Because Supreme Court rulings from the earlier half of the last century ruled them a violation of anti-trust law, and the exceptions subsequently granted to unions under the Wagner Act (and other laws) do not extend to secondary strikes.

In essence, a union cannot go on strike in support of another union. Oh, and public sector unions can only go on strike if their state permits it.

There's aren't going to be any strikes over this in Wisconsin or anywhere else. This isn't Europe.

Thats not fair. If businesses are allowed to disregard anti-trust laws then unions certainly ought to be allowed to.

[Alien Space Bats]

Thats not fair. If businesses are allowed to disregard anti-trust laws then unions certainly ought to be allowed to.

Businesses are not allowed to disregard anti-trust law.

As for "fair", WTF is that?!? "Fair" has nothing to do with anything.

[Los Cabreddes]

Exactly, which is why I personally, like GREAT LIBERALS such as FDR, oppose unionization among the "public sector." If they wish to change their wages, they should petition the people, and the people can decide.

Well, much as I admire President Roosevelt, I can't agree.

Do you think that by invoking "GREAT LIBERALS such as FDR" (and using caps to do it), we would all fall over and concede the point?

I don't intend on making you do any such thing, but this idea that only people who listen to Fox News can possibly disagree with you is

F-A-L-S-E

[Helertia]

Thats not fair. If businesses are allowed to disregard anti-trust laws then unions certainly ought to be allowed to.

Businesses are not allowed to disregard anti-trust law.

As for "fair", WTF is that?!? "Fair" has nothing to do with anything.

ConAgra. IBP. General Motors.

[Los Cabreddes]

I love getting laughs at your expense. I'm less angry now.

That sounds like a confession to baiting other posters. Do not do it.

It's not, I just suddenly started laughing when I saw the situation, hence the post just before it.

[Farnhamia]

Well, much as I admire President Roosevelt, I can't agree.

Do you think that by invoking "GREAT LIBERALS such as FDR" (and using caps to do it), we would all fall over and concede the point?

I don't intend on making you do any such thing, but this idea that only people who listen to Fox News can possibly disagree with you is

F-A-L-S-E

Uhm ... okay. Whatever.

[Helertia]

Well, much as I admire President Roosevelt, I can't agree.

Do you think that by invoking "GREAT LIBERALS such as FDR" (and using caps to do it), we would all fall over and concede the point?

I don't intend on making you do any such thing, but this idea that only people who listen to Fox News can possibly disagree with you is

F-A-L-S-E

I'm sure it is, but in interests of helping people recognise whether you are a Fox mouthpiece or not, would you mind not giving exactly the same opinions as them with exactly the same lack of evidence?

[Los Cabreddes]

ConAgra. IBP.

Personally I've always thought Monsanto was the most evil of the agriculture firms:

http://www.ielrc.org/content/a0503.pdf

"Monsanto vs. Schmeiser"

[Los Cabreddes]

I'm sure it is, but in interests of helping people recognise whether you are a Fox mouthpiece or not, would you mind not giving exactly the same opinions as them with exactly the same lack of evidence?

As someone who doesn't watch Fox News I'm sorry but I really can't oblige you as I don't know what they say, I just say what I see.

[Helertia]

I'm sure it is, but in interests of helping people recognise whether you are a Fox mouthpiece or not, would you mind not giving exactly the same opinions as them with exactly the same lack of evidence?

As someone who doesn't watch Fox News I'm sorry but I really can't oblige you as I don't know what they say, I just say what I see.

Ah, I see. Well, in that case, I move on to asking to you to please back up your opinions with evidence.

[Los Cabreddes]

Uhm ... okay. Whatever.

What can I say, it's a weird conversation!

EDIT:

As someone who doesn't watch Fox News I'm sorry but I really can't oblige you as I don't know what they say, I just say what I see.

Ah, I see. Well, in that case, I move on to asking to you to please back up your opinions with evidence.

What evidence would you like?

[Drachmar]

"The process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service" -FDR

I'm sure FDR was working for Fox too!

Please read the entire letter...

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=15445#axzz1FxMn49j7

[Helertia]

Uhm ... okay. Whatever.

What can I say, it's a weird conversation!

EDIT:

Ah, I see. Well, in that case, I move on to asking to you to please back up your opinions with evidence.

What evidence would you like?

I don't know. I've forgotton what the argument was xD

[Sucrati]

I would rather still receive pay because the government would be able to afford to pay me by performance, rather than take a giant pay cut (example California, Democrats making the cut...) or be threatened to lose my job (which those public sector workers won't lose their jobs due to funding issues now)... so basically the Democrats were willing to allow their constituents to lose their jobs over something that should be decided by the taxpayer and not an organization that sucks up said taxpayer funds. Here the Republicans through a special clause passed unpopular legislation that just saved people from losing their jobs... hmm... I thought the Republicans were out to destroy jobs?