Are Wisconsin Democrats doing the right thing?

[Gauthier]

Because it was a necessity! We had to go against the will of our constituents to pass the horribly sloppy bill!

Is that like destroying the village to save it?

Better dead than Red!

[Bosiu]

Because it was a necessity! We had to go against the will of our constituents to pass the horribly sloppy bill!

Is that like destroying the village to save it?

Yes. They just pass on who's holding the torch.

[Aurum and Argentum]

Is that like destroying the village to save it?

Yes. They just pass on who's holding the torch.

That is why it is never pays to set bad examples. It may bit you when you least expect it.

[Daistallia 2104]

honestly, i am incredibly impressed with both how awesomely the state dems are conducting themselves - have you heard them in interviews? they are running circles around the repubs - and how petty and ridiculous the repubs are making themselves look.

i mean, come on. the repubs reassigned the dems staffers. their laughable claim was that then they would 'have someone to contact in the building'. so member of the WI government-in-exile* chris larson had this to say:

"I would be very interested in letting [majority leader] Sen. Fitzgerald know about a new technology called the cellular telephone. I thought he was aware of it. What it does, is it gives a senator the ability to keep in touch with his staff when he is not in that building."

and one of the other guys outsmarted the repubs when it came to picking up his paycheck, too. and, of course, the repubs have now banned the horrific assault on liberty known as prank calling, but not for any reasons at all related to the governor looking like a koch-sucker after one, no siree!

*(seriously, i want them to commandeer the SS badger and start broadcasting radio free wisconsin - the voice of the wisconsin government-in-exile)

Yes indeed I've been watching the interviews. Also, that radio free WI would be awesome. I think I have just the right theme song.

[Senestrum]

dahling it is just so convenient now to use polls (maybe its is fashionable cause we are now entering spring), so why did the Dems did not do the same at the height of the healthcare reform bill opposition.

Because it was a necessity! We had to go against the will of our constituents to pass the horribly sloppy bill!

I seem to recall that the majority of americans supported health care reform before the right-wing political machine set its sights on it.

Of course, there was no real reform after the absolutely spineless democrats compromised any real reform away in an attempt to satiate the republicans, even after the right made it quite clear they wouldn't accept any sort of compromise.

[Geniasis]

http://www.boingboing.net/2011/03/02/sc ... uggle.html

What the fuck is going on over there?

[Seperate Vermont]

Did Republicans do the right thing when they enacted the Patriot Act?

That's what I thought.

Did the Democrats do the right thing when they seceded from the Union to defend the institution of slavery?

Yeah, I just went there.

You talkin' bout them non-modern southerna democrats.

[Farnhamia]

http://www.boingboing.net/2011/03/02/scott-walker-smuggle.html

What the fuck is going on over there?

All sorts of things.

[Greed and Death]

http://www.boingboing.net/2011/03/02/scott-walker-smuggle.html

What the fuck is going on over there?

All sorts of things.

At least with all the fines the dems will be too poor to run for reelection next year.

[Geniasis]

At least with all the fines the dems will be too poor to run for reelection next year.

The dems will be too poor and the repubs too unpopular.

Who then, shall they elect?

[Osthia]

At least with all the fines the dems will be too poor to run for reelection next year.

The dems will be too poor and the repubs too unpopular.

Who then, shall they elect?

COMMIES!
Just kidding, I'm sure that they'll work something out. Probably a lot of unions and other groups would fund dems. Republicans wouldn'd get a lot of votes.

[Gilthador]

No, they're doing the left thing.

[Sucrati]

Doing the right thing?

Leaving a threat of laying off Public Sector workers by April 1st if they (Democrats) didn't go back to work? (Hey can't pass a budget without you, ya idiots)

Oh well, leave their constituents worrying over whether or not they will be allowed to work, meh.

[Wamitoria]

Doing the right thing?

Leaving a threat of laying off Public Sector workers by April 1st if they (Democrats) didn't go back to work? (Hey can't pass a budget without you, ya idiots)

Walker seem to be just begging for a general strike with that one.

[Gauthier]

Doing the right thing?

Leaving a threat of laying off Public Sector workers by April 1st if they (Democrats) didn't go back to work? (Hey can't pass a budget without you, ya idiots)

Walker seem to be just begging for a general strike with that one.

And if they do a General Strike, then Walker joins GWB on that distinguished list of "Republicans that other Republicans want to distance themselves from and pretend never existed while FOXNews magically turns them into Democrats".

[Arkinesia]

Even if the Republicans had mass revolted against this, it probably still would've passed due to pressure from Northern voters on their Republican representatives. What I meant to say was that I saw the Democrats actually working to get this passed, and the Repubs just sitting back and voting yes without saying a word in support (which isn't true, since the article mentioned one repub who attempted to work out a compromise - but still, that was the only republican mentioned in the entire article).

Yeah, just like Blanche Lincoln listened to her electorate and wouldn't vote in favor of the healthcare bill until they took claim oversight out of the bill. Oh wait, that meant she was on the side of special interests, I forgot

Did I mention she was a Democrat?

I honestly cannot wait until Obama gets re-elected in 2012.

At this point I'm pretty tempted to reply with "dream on." His approval ratings are spectacularly bad right now.

[Serrland]

I honestly cannot wait until Obama gets re-elected in 2012.

At this point I'm pretty tempted to reply with "dream on." His approval ratings are spectacularly bad right now.

Too early to say, really, his approval rating isn't beyond the ordinary for a president coming out of a midterm year.

[Farnhamia]

At this point I'm pretty tempted to reply with "dream on." His approval ratings are spectacularly bad right now.

Too early to say, really, his approval rating isn't beyond the ordinary for a president coming out of a midterm year.

Where does this idea that Obama's approval numbers are bad come from? His approval/disapproval numbers on Gallup are about tied, floating in the mid-forties. That's hardly "spectacularly bad."

[Delator]

Too early to say, really, his approval rating isn't beyond the ordinary for a president coming out of a midterm year.

Where does this idea that Obama's approval numbers are bad come from? His approval/disapproval numbers on Gallup are about tied, floating in the mid-forties. That's hardly "spectacularly bad."

God, ever since Clinton got impeached, I've just assumed the sitting President is at 45% "approval".

It seems to be a better barometer for public opinion than the dart throwing that is polling. It explains how Bush was elected in 04.

[Farnhamia]

Where does this idea that Obama's approval numbers are bad come from? His approval/disapproval numbers on Gallup are about tied, floating in the mid-forties. That's hardly "spectacularly bad."

God, ever since Clinton got impeached, I've just assumed the sitting President is at 45% "approval".

It seems to be a better barometer for public opinion than the dart throwing that is polling. It explains how Bush was elected in 04.

Bush got re-elected in '04 because the damned Democrats didn't have the balls to hit back at the Swift Boat idiots and the rest of the crap the GOP threw at them. A contest between a candidate who actually served in Vietnam and one whose entire military service consists of dental records showing he got his teeth fixed while in the Air National Guard and the second guy wins?

[Sucrati]

God, ever since Clinton got impeached, I've just assumed the sitting President is at 45% "approval".

It seems to be a better barometer for public opinion than the dart throwing that is polling. It explains how Bush was elected in 04.

Bush got re-elected in '04 because the damned Democrats didn't have the balls to hit back at the Swift Boat idiots and the rest of the crap the GOP threw at them. A contest between a candidate who actually served in Vietnam and one whose entire military service consists of dental records showing he got his teeth fixed while in the Air National Guard and the second guy wins?

I have a friend who was in the army, he told me if Kerry won, that he and his squad would shoot themselves in the foot.

[Brandenburg-Altmark]

Bush got re-elected in '04 because the damned Democrats didn't have the balls to hit back at the Swift Boat idiots and the rest of the crap the GOP threw at them. A contest between a candidate who actually served in Vietnam and one whose entire military service consists of dental records showing he got his teeth fixed while in the Air National Guard and the second guy wins?

I have a friend who was in the army, he told me if Kerry won, that he and his squad would shoot themselves in the foot.

If I had it my way they'd still be getting horsewhipped by their CO for talking like that. Preferably in front of the rest of their division.

[Farnhamia]

I have a friend who was in the army, he told me if Kerry won, that he and his squad would shoot themselves in the foot.

If I had it my way they'd still be getting horsewhipped by their CO for talking like that. Preferably in front of the rest of their division.

Now, now, that's cruel and unusual punishment. They would, however, be guilty of malingering.

[Brandenburg-Altmark]

If I had it my way they'd still be getting horsewhipped by their CO for talking like that. Preferably in front of the rest of their division.

Now, now, that's cruel and unusual punishment. They would, however, be guilty of malingering.

If being homosexual is disruptive to morale, actively protesting against your commander in chief with self-mutilation ought to be treason at least. Then again we can't expect "Social Conservatives" to be anything but hypocrites. :/

[Farnhamia]

Now, now, that's cruel and unusual punishment. They would, however, be guilty of malingering.

If being homosexual is disruptive to morale, actively protesting against your commander in chief with self-mutilation ought to be treason at least. Then again we can't expect "Social Conservatives" to be anything but hypocrites. :/

I can understand why you'd think so, and perhaps might be made that an entire squad taking themselves out ocommission with self-inflicted wounds qualifies as giving "Aid and Comfort" to enemies of the United States, but I think it's a stretch. I'd settle for dishonorable discharge. That will follow you for the rest of your life.