Are Wisconsin Democrats doing the right thing?

[Gauthier]

Apparently, the Republicans passed a resolution to fine and punish the Wisconsin democrats.

Forgive my ignorance, but if the absence of the Democrats meant that there was no quorum, then how is it possible that the Republicans were able to pass this?

To the Supreme Court!

The same Supreme Court that gave us the Dubya Administration (or as Republicans call it, The Wonder Years)?

[Aurum and Argentum]

Apparently, the Republicans passed a resolution to fine and punish the Wisconsin democrats.

Forgive my ignorance, but if the absence of the Democrats meant that there was no quorum, then how is it possible that the Republicans were able to pass this?

They can. they just need a simple majority..... now as for budgetary legislation, they need 20 to have a quorum

[Caotic chaos]

Did Republicans do the right thing when they enacted the Patriot Act?

That's what I thought.

Did the Democrats do the right thing when they seceded from the Union to defend the institution of slavery?

Yeah, I just went there.

that was a different era, and has nothing to do with modern politics. and that wasnt democrats either. get your facts straight son. poltics change all the time, some times with the oposite sides literaly switching what they stand for. republicans used to support unions for example.

[Aurum and Argentum]

This.

I find truth to be more at the middle. The mainstream media is as shitty as foxnews.

This is actually pretty disingenuous. Yes, both sides are far from perfect, but it's not at all true to pretend that they reside in the same neighborhood of errors.

MSNBC balances FOX. or the other way around.....

[Bottle]

This is actually pretty disingenuous. Yes, both sides are far from perfect, but it's not at all true to pretend that they reside in the same neighborhood of errors.

MSNBC balances FOX.

MSNBC is corporate-moderate, not left-wing. Don't confuse the two.

[Aurum and Argentum]

MSNBC balances FOX.

MSNBC is corporate-moderate, not left-wing. Don't confuse the two.

You mean MSNBC do not shovel as much shit as fox...... I disagree.

[Bottle]

MSNBC is corporate-moderate, not left-wing. Don't confuse the two.

You mean MSNBC do not shovel as much shit as fox...... I disagree.

No, I mean they shovel plenty of shit, they just don't do it for the same reasons that Fox shovels theirs.

MSNBC also don't engage in the blatant lying that Faux News does, but that's different. It's quite possible to shovel shit without overtly lying.

[Geniasis]

Apparently they ordered the arrest of the Democratic Senators as well, only to be unambiguously shot down by the Police Association, who expressed severe concerns about Walker's conduct.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRwUd0oIo0I

http://blog.aflcio.org/2011/03/03/wi-po ... out-force/

[Farnhamia]

MSNBC is corporate-moderate, not left-wing. Don't confuse the two.

You mean MSNBC do not shovel as much shit as fox...... I disagree.

If they do, they're better at it. Never seen MSNBC call an embarrassing Democrat a Republican.

[Bosiu]

I personally think that Walkers doing some good, it's about time someone put their foot down against the public workers unions. As for the Democrats, they're cowards (and yes, I'd say the something about the Republicans if they pulled a similar stunt).

[Daistallia 2104]

Apparently they ordered the arrest of the Democratic Senators as well, only to be unambiguously shot down by the Police Association, who expressed severe concerns about Walker's conduct.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRwUd0oIo0I

http://blog.aflcio.org/2011/03/03/wi-po ... out-force/

I expect that at this point it's a wait and see game, the outcome of which will depend on whether the Democratic senators can wait the two months until the recalls that have been initiated against the GOP senators have been carried out and the balance swings back towards them. The way things are going now, the tide of public opinion is running against the GOP. If the Democrats can hold out long enough, they'll win.

[Aurum and Argentum]

You mean MSNBC do not shovel as much shit as fox...... I disagree.

No, I mean they shovel plenty of shit, they just don't do it for the same reasons that Fox shovels theirs.

MSNBC also don't engage in the blatant lying that Faux News does, but that's different. It's quite possible to shovel shit without overtly lying.

Lying you say:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drenn ... n-or-apolo
http://www.mrc.org/press/releases/2009/ ... 10623.aspx
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/surpris ... ven-false/
http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/ ... c_corr.php

I see lies on both sides, same shit on both side, the difference of these shit is just color: one is blue, the other is red.

[Geniasis]

I personally think that Walkers doing some good, it's about time someone put their foot down against the public workers unions. As for the Democrats, they're cowards (and yes, I'd say the something about the Republicans if they pulled a similar stunt).

Odd how the majority of the public seems to think otherwise, no?

[Gauthier]

I personally think that Walkers doing some good, it's about time someone put their foot down against the public workers unions. As for the Democrats, they're cowards (and yes, I'd say the something about the Republicans if they pulled a similar stunt).

Odd how the majority of the public seems to think otherwise, no?

It's what happens when you're a FOXNews junkie.

[Bosiu]

I personally think that Walkers doing some good, it's about time someone put their foot down against the public workers unions. As for the Democrats, they're cowards (and yes, I'd say the something about the Republicans if they pulled a similar stunt).

Odd how the majority of the public seems to think otherwise, no?

Often the case in all of our opinions.

[Geniasis]

Often the case in all of our opinions.

Is it? I understand that the will of the people is superseded by the Constitution, but it seems odd to go against it here. Especially when the Right has been so loud in their accusations and claims of what "the people want".

[Gauthier]

Often the case in all of our opinions.

Is it? I understand that the will of the people is superseded by the Constitution, but it seems odd to go against it here. Especially when the Right has been so loud in their accusations and claims of what "the people want".

When the Right likes it, it's what "the people want." When they don't it's "traitorous liberal Moslem commie talk."

[Bosiu]

Often the case in all of our opinions.

Is it? I understand that the will of the people is superseded by the Constitution, but it seems odd to go against it here. Especially when the Right has been so loud in their accusations and claims of what "the people want".

I was talking about personal opinion.

[Bosiu]

Is it? I understand that the will of the people is superseded by the Constitution, but it seems odd to go against it here. Especially when the Right has been so loud in their accusations and claims of what "the people want".

When the Right likes it, it's what "the people want." When they don't it's "traitorous liberal Moslem commie talk."

And when it's the left is "Teabagging, gun toting, money grubbing rednecks"

[Geniasis]

When the Right likes it, it's what "the people want." When they don't it's "traitorous liberal Moslem commie talk."

And when it's the left is "Teabagging, gun toting, money grubbing rednecks"

Of course not.

That would be insulting to Rednecks.

[Aurum and Argentum]

When the Right likes it, it's what "the people want." When they don't it's "traitorous liberal Moslem commie talk."

And when it's the left is "Teabagging, gun toting, money grubbing rednecks"

dahling it is just so convenient now to use polls (maybe its is fashionable cause we are now entering spring), so why did the Dems did not do the same at the height of the healthcare reform bill opposition.

[Free Soviets]

Apparently they ordered the arrest of the Democratic Senators as well, only to be unambiguously shot down by the Police Association, who expressed severe concerns about Walker's conduct.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRwUd0oIo0I

http://blog.aflcio.org/2011/03/03/wi-po ... out-force/

I expect that at this point it's a wait and see game, the outcome of which will depend on whether the Democratic senators can wait the two months until the recalls that have been initiated against the GOP senators have been carried out and the balance swings back towards them. The way things are going now, the tide of public opinion is running against the GOP. If the Democrats can hold out long enough, they'll win.

honestly, i am incredibly impressed with both how awesomely the state dems are conducting themselves - have you heard them in interviews? they are running circles around the repubs - and how petty and ridiculous the repubs are making themselves look.

i mean, come on. the repubs reassigned the dems staffers. their laughable claim was that then they would 'have someone to contact in the building'. so member of the WI government-in-exile* chris larson had this to say:

"I would be very interested in letting [majority leader] Sen. Fitzgerald know about a new technology called the cellular telephone. I thought he was aware of it. What it does, is it gives a senator the ability to keep in touch with his staff when he is not in that building."

and one of the other guys outsmarted the repubs when it came to picking up his paycheck, too. and, of course, the repubs have now banned the horrific assault on liberty known as prank calling, but not for any reasons at all related to the governor looking like a koch-sucker after one, no siree!

*(seriously, i want them to commandeer the SS badger and start broadcasting radio free wisconsin - the voice of the wisconsin government-in-exile)

[Bosiu]

And when it's the left is "Teabagging, gun toting, money grubbing rednecks"

Of course not.

That would be insulting to Rednecks.

Then again. Who cares about rednecks?

[Bosiu]

And when it's the left is "Teabagging, gun toting, money grubbing rednecks"

dahling it is just so convenient now to use polls (maybe its is fashionable cause we are now entering spring), so why did the Dems did not do the same at the height of the healthcare reform bill opposition.

Because it was a necessity! We had to go against the will of our constituents to pass the horribly sloppy bill!

[Farnhamia]

dahling it is just so convenient now to use polls (maybe its is fashionable cause we are now entering spring), so why did the Dems did not do the same at the height of the healthcare reform bill opposition.

Because it was a necessity! We had to go against the will of our constituents to pass the horribly sloppy bill!

Is that like destroying the village to save it?