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by Senestrum » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:24 pm
Coffee Cakes wrote:Senestrum wrote:They are representing their constituents in the best way they can, by doing whatever they can to stop a bill that will hurt said constituents. Regardless of whether you think the bill is good or not, they are doing their job of representing those who elected them.
They owe their constituents at least a vote on the issue, whether it passes or fails. If they get outvoted, they can say they lost to GOP greed and use it as a talking point in 2012.
by Coffee Cakes » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:26 pm
Transnapastain wrote:CC!
Posting mod mistakes now are we?
Well, sir, you can have a Vindictive warning for making us look incompetent
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:You're Invisi Gay. Super hero of the Rainbow Equality Brigade!
Nana wrote:Being CC's bf is a death worse than fate.
Nana wrote:Finally, another reasonable individual.
Nana wrote: You're Ben. And Ben is many things wrapped into one being. :)
Quotes Singing Contest of DOOM Champ. SoftballGeniasis wrote:I've seen people lose credibility. It's been a while since I've seen it cast aside so gleefully.
by Sierra Lobo » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:26 pm
by Gauthier » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:27 pm
Coffee Cakes wrote:Senestrum wrote:They are representing their constituents in the best way they can, by doing whatever they can to stop a bill that will hurt said constituents. Regardless of whether you think the bill is good or not, they are doing their job of representing those who elected them.
They owe their constituents at least a vote on the issue, whether it passes or fails. If they get outvoted, they can say they lost to GOP greed and use it as a talking point in 2012.
by Coffee Cakes » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:28 pm
Senestrum wrote:Coffee Cakes wrote:
They owe their constituents at least a vote on the issue, whether it passes or fails. If they get outvoted, they can say they lost to GOP greed and use it as a talking point in 2012.
They owe it to their constituents to go along with something they know will end up with said constituents being hurt? Where on earth are you getting that idea? Their job is to represent those that elected them, and in this case the only way they can do that is by abstaining from participating in the voting process.
Transnapastain wrote:CC!
Posting mod mistakes now are we?
Well, sir, you can have a Vindictive warning for making us look incompetent
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:You're Invisi Gay. Super hero of the Rainbow Equality Brigade!
Nana wrote:Being CC's bf is a death worse than fate.
Nana wrote:Finally, another reasonable individual.
Nana wrote: You're Ben. And Ben is many things wrapped into one being. :)
Quotes Singing Contest of DOOM Champ. SoftballGeniasis wrote:I've seen people lose credibility. It's been a while since I've seen it cast aside so gleefully.
by Rolamec » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:28 pm
Sierra Lobo wrote:Rolamec wrote:
It's the cheese, man, it does things to you....sexual things....
Wisconsin is previously a (very) blue state ...... they just like to dictate to their minority repubs before. I just am not aware if repubs constantly run away if they do disagree but it seems they dont . Problem here is that wisconsin suddenly turned red last nov. and the dems dont know how to be a minority . I guess the best thing they can do i ran, but then i could be wrong it could all because of the cheese.
by Mongolian Khanate » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:28 pm
Red Sector X wrote:No, they're not. They're hippies and idiots.
by Gauthier » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:29 pm
by Red Sector X » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:30 pm
Gauthier wrote:Coffee Cakes wrote:
They owe their constituents at least a vote on the issue, whether it passes or fails. If they get outvoted, they can say they lost to GOP greed and use it as a talking point in 2012.
You're probably an oligarchal tool, but I'll pretend you just don't get the big picture and explain it.
Public Sector Unions are 3 of the 10 biggest contributors to American political campaigns- the other 7 are corporate and right-wing. Ever since the Supreme Court fucked up with Citizens United v Federal Election Commission, those 10 entities are allowed to throw in as much money as they want to any political campaign they wish.
Now, as has been mentioned so many times, the provisions in the bill include a requirement for annual recertification in order for the PSUs to remain in existence, on top of destroying the right to collective bargaining. This in effect is trying to break up the PSUs by default.
Once PSUs cease to exist, that means the only real political finance entities remaining will all be corporate. Which means by and large, only Republicans with a good record for corporate whoring will have a realistic shot at any public office. And once those whores get elected, they will engineer the government to maximize profits for the corporations and minimize any benefits or rights of those working for them. I guarantee if this bill passes almost all of the 50 States will become Right to Work states with all the shit that comes with it.
And if PSUs can be destroyed, guess what? Private unions will be next, or will be irrelevant as the Republicans paid for by corporate money systemically legislate them out of existence.
by Senestrum » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:30 pm
Red Sector X wrote:No, they're not. They're hippies and idiots.
by Gauthier » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:31 pm
Rolamec wrote:Sierra Lobo wrote:
Wisconsin is previously a (very) blue state ...... they just like to dictate to their minority repubs before. I just am not aware if repubs constantly run away if they do disagree but it seems they dont . Problem here is that wisconsin suddenly turned red last nov. and the dems dont know how to be a minority . I guess the best thing they can do i ran, but then i could be wrong it could all because of the cheese.
Of course Democrats don't know how to be a minority, did you see how they were during Bush? "We oppose, okay, we'll cave." Sadly they are still living in the 1930s and 40s...
by SaintB » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:32 pm
Red Sector X wrote:Gauthier wrote:
You're probably an oligarchal tool, but I'll pretend you just don't get the big picture and explain it.
Public Sector Unions are 3 of the 10 biggest contributors to American political campaigns- the other 7 are corporate and right-wing. Ever since the Supreme Court fucked up with Citizens United v Federal Election Commission, those 10 entities are allowed to throw in as much money as they want to any political campaign they wish.
Now, as has been mentioned so many times, the provisions in the bill include a requirement for annual recertification in order for the PSUs to remain in existence, on top of destroying the right to collective bargaining. This in effect is trying to break up the PSUs by default.
Once PSUs cease to exist, that means the only real political finance entities remaining will all be corporate. Which means by and large, only Republicans with a good record for corporate whoring will have a realistic shot at any public office. And once those whores get elected, they will engineer the government to maximize profits for the corporations and minimize any benefits or rights of those working for them. I guarantee if this bill passes almost all of the 50 States will become Right to Work states with all the shit that comes with it.
And if PSUs can be destroyed, guess what? Private unions will be next, or will be irrelevant as the Republicans paid for by corporate money systemically legislate them out of existence.
"Oligarchal tool"? You mean like the entire Democratic Party? Because Communism's pretty damn "Oligarchal", and that's the unions' objective- a welfare state where they use all the people like slaves.
by Red Sector X » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:33 pm
by Coffee Cakes » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:34 pm
Gauthier wrote:Coffee Cakes wrote:
They owe their constituents at least a vote on the issue, whether it passes or fails. If they get outvoted, they can say they lost to GOP greed and use it as a talking point in 2012.
You're probably an oligarchal tool, but I'll pretend you just don't get the big picture and explain it.
Public Sector Unions are 3 of the 10 biggest contributors to American political campaigns- the other 7 are corporate and right-wing. Ever since the Supreme Court fucked up with Citizens United v Federal Election Commission, those 10 entities are allowed to throw in as much money as they want to any political campaign they wish.
Now, as has been mentioned so many times, the provisions in the bill include a requirement for annual recertification in order for the PSUs to remain in existence, on top of destroying the right to collective bargaining. This in effect is trying to break up the PSUs by default.
Once PSUs cease to exist, that means the only real political finance entities remaining will all be corporate. Which means by and large, only Republicans with a good record for corporate whoring will have a realistic shot at any public office. And once those whores get elected, they will engineer the government to maximize profits for the corporations and minimize any benefits or rights of those working for them. I guarantee if this bill passes almost all of the 50 States will become Right to Work states with all the shit that comes with it.
And if PSUs can be destroyed, guess what? Private unions will be next, or will be irrelevant as the Republicans paid for by corporate money systemically legislate them out of existence.
Transnapastain wrote:CC!
Posting mod mistakes now are we?
Well, sir, you can have a Vindictive warning for making us look incompetent
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:You're Invisi Gay. Super hero of the Rainbow Equality Brigade!
Nana wrote:Being CC's bf is a death worse than fate.
Nana wrote:Finally, another reasonable individual.
Nana wrote: You're Ben. And Ben is many things wrapped into one being. :)
Quotes Singing Contest of DOOM Champ. SoftballGeniasis wrote:I've seen people lose credibility. It's been a while since I've seen it cast aside so gleefully.
by Sierra Lobo » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:34 pm
by Red Sector X » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:35 pm
by Lacadaemon » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:39 pm
by Rolamec » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:39 pm
Gauthier wrote:Rolamec wrote:
Of course Democrats don't know how to be a minority, did you see how they were during Bush? "We oppose, okay, we'll cave." Sadly they are still living in the 1930s and 40s...
And yet you're bitching that the Senators aren't doing their jobs by not going back to Wisconsin and caving in. How disingenuous.
by Red Sector X » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:40 pm
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