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by Telesha » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:59 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:and the movie still playing, having been in a dark theater staring at the only light source etc etc etc...
Look, gun guys...we get it. You likey your guns. You'd be surprised (well, not if you'd been paying attention, but I digress) how many people arguing with you about this event actually agree with you about gun ownership in principle. I, like many others, don't have a problem with gun ownership per se. There are a ton of factors that essentially mean 'gun control' in the context you're talking about is unrealistic (and I'd argue very few people are advocating). Guns are the pee in the pool water, we're simply not going to get them out of our culture at this point. And yeah, other places have more guns that we do and manage to not shoot themselves up as much. So maybe it's not the guns.
Maybe...and here's where you start to become hard to back up...maybe it's the culture of guns.
Because if the first thing you thought when this horrible thing happened was "Oh my god, my guns, they're gonna take my guns!" there is something seriously fucked up about your priorities.
I like cars and I like going fast, but when someone kills someone in a collision my first reaction is "Don't you dare tell me I can't go fast!" That's fucking callous.
If you can't take a moment to recognize the human cost of the tragedy, if you can't have just the slightest inkling that this is what your hobby is capable of and acknowledge it and even make the slightest effort to empathize with people who might be hurt, upset, or afraid then I cannot spare a bit of sympathy for you that your precious guns might come under attack.
You don't have to admit that Guns are the Root of All Evil to admit that this is a terrible tragedy that was made easier by guns. Yeah, you can think that draconian gun control might not be the solution, and I might agree with you, but for fucks sake...just an ounce of self awareness would be nice.
And all of the Paul Kersey fantasy notions about a gun fight in a movie theater is the clear solution to the problem...frankly, there is not much daylight between you and the guy who did this. Because you're both taking a movie fantasy life and pretending it would be super cool in the real world.
Look man, if guns were the solution to gun violence, war zones would be safe as houses.
But you're right. Guns aren't the problem. Thousands of gun owners in many countries manage to own guns and only shoot cans and woodland creatures. But perhaps part of the problem is this crazy notion on display here that guns are some sort of magic problem-solving device that even solves the problems they create.
It's not that you own a gun, or want a gun. It's what you think it does that frankly scares the shit out of me.
by Olthar » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:02 pm
by Dyakovo » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:34 pm
Tekania wrote:English, Irish, French and Native American.... yes, I can't even get along with my fucking self....
by Milks Empire » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:03 am
Big Jim P wrote:Mavorpen wrote:I remember watching a man flirting with a woman. The woman slapped him in the face and kicked him in the balls. I walked up to him and said, "It's okay dude. If Atheism is a religion, then being rejected, slapped, and kicked in the balls is a sex position."
For some people it IS.
by Katganistan » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:06 am
by Milks Empire » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:13 am
Katganistan wrote:Anything I could say at this moment would result in having to go sit in the Bad Kat corner. So let's simply smile knowingly, clink our beer bottles together, and have a cold one.
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