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Why does the Churches collect money?

Postby The Godly Nations » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:41 am

Simple Logic-
God owns everything
Church is God's house
Church expects that you give your hard earn money to them
But if God owns everything, then they obviously don't need it
But if God need money, then he doesn't own everything,
ergo Church doesn't need any money what so ever.

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Re: Why does the Churches collect money?

Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:42 am

The headache I'm getting just reading your... inane posts... is putting me in such a bad mood.

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Re: Why does the Churches collect money?

Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:42 am

Because church is a business, just like nearly everything else.
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Postby Nadkor » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:42 am

That is possibly the worst attempt at "simple logic" I've read in a long time.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:43 am

I will say that the churches can be legally forced not to collect money the day they can legally seize any land they need to use because "God owns it", regardless of who possesses the property title. The same goes for electricity, water, lawn mowing services, etc. As soon as they can press people into duty without paying them, and take whatever they want because God owns it, then we can outlaw them collecting money.

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Postby Hydesland » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:43 am

Generally to administer the premises and church activities and for their charitable activities.

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Postby The Godly Nations » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:43 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:The headache I'm getting just reading your... inane posts... is putting me in such a bad mood.

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Postby The_pantless_hero » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:44 am

Nadkor wrote:That is possibly the worst attempt at "simple logic" I've read in a long time.

I didn't get past "why does the churches"
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Re: Why does the Churches collect money?

Postby Galloism » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:44 am

Nadkor wrote:That is possibly the worst attempt at "simple logic" I've read in a long time.


You haven't been around NSG very much. We've had several of these.
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New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:45 am

The_pantless_hero wrote:
Nadkor wrote:That is possibly the worst attempt at "simple logic" I've read in a long time.

I didn't get past "why does the churches"


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Postby Jakra » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:45 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:The headache I'm getting just reading your... inane posts... is putting me in such a bad mood.

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Postby GetBert » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:45 am

To pay for the rent boys and drugs.

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Postby TurboKill » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:48 am

God still needs to pay taxes.

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Postby Galloism » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:49 am

TurboKill wrote:God still needs to pay taxes.


*cough* Churches don't pay taxes.

Unless of course, they get caught doing something that violates their political neutrality, in which case the IRS goes "Pay up. You violated the separation of church and state, and now you owe us taxes."

There's also a few other things that can throw out their tax exempt status.
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New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Seculartopia » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:54 am

Hydesland wrote:Generally to administer the premises and church activities and for their charitable activities.


Maybe most of the time, alot gets thrown around in the spread of Christianity and to the ministry bureaucracy, depending on the church.
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Postby DrunkenDove » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:57 am

Since money is the root of all evil, it makes sense that the church should try to collect as much of it as possible in order to relieve the burden on mankind.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:58 am

DrunkenDove wrote:Since money is the root of all evil, it makes sense that the church should try to collect as much of it as possible in order to relieve the burden on mankind.


Every time I hear "root of all evil" I want to tell a really bad joke.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby The Godly Nations » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:58 am

Seculartopia wrote:
Hydesland wrote:Generally to administer the premises and church activities and for their charitable activities.


Maybe most of the time, alot gets thrown around in the spread of Christianity and to the ministry bureaucracy, depending on the church.


I'm sure there's a verse that says something like 'You cannot serve two master, you either serve God or the Mammon.'

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Postby Ravea » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:59 am

The Godly Nations wrote:Simple Logic-
God owns everything
Church is God's house
Church expects that you give your hard earn money to them
But if God owns everything, then they obviously don't need it
But if God need money, then he doesn't own everything,
ergo Church doesn't need any money what so ever.


Your logic makes me want to strangle puppies.
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:59 am

Galloism wrote:
DrunkenDove wrote:Since money is the root of all evil, it makes sense that the church should try to collect as much of it as possible in order to relieve the burden on mankind.


Every time I hear "root of all evil" I want to tell a really bad joke.


You mean that stupid math "proof" about women being evil?
A little homework for you!

What part of L(f(t)) = Int(exp(-s*t)*f(t),t,0,inf) don't you understand?

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Postby Galloism » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:01 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Galloism wrote:
DrunkenDove wrote:Since money is the root of all evil, it makes sense that the church should try to collect as much of it as possible in order to relieve the burden on mankind.


Every time I hear "root of all evil" I want to tell a really bad joke.


You mean that stupid math "proof" about women being evil?


Well, I did say it was a bad joke.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:05 pm

Galloism wrote:Well, I did say it was a bad joke.


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A little homework for you!

What part of L(f(t)) = Int(exp(-s*t)*f(t),t,0,inf) don't you understand?

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Postby Ravea » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:06 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Galloism wrote:Well, I did say it was a bad joke.


How do you have that many fucking posts?


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Re: Why does the Churches collect money?

Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:13 pm

Ravea wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Galloism wrote:Well, I did say it was a bad joke.


How do you have that many fucking posts?


Galloism is a dark warlock.

Didn't you know?


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Re: Why does the Churches collect money?

Postby Kirav » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:17 pm

Because Churches are Human institutions for the worship of God, not God Himself.

God does not 'own' anything, in our sense of the word, because Property is also a Human institution.

Churches, being Human institutions as stated, are subject to the demands of the Human œconomy, and have material needs that must be attended to. Money is required to satisfy such needs and demands. Since churches do not sell merchandise, they must collect money from their members in order to raise funds.

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