Movies That Should Have Never Been Made..

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

I'm still quite certain the pronunciation is /fɪlm/ not /film/ˌ /i/ is not a phoneme in Enɡlishˌ /iː/ is however.

Then again, due to the lack of contrasting /i/ phoneme you might as well argue that the phoneme is actually /i/ but just realize with a long off-glide in every context.

It is either flim or fillum.

[The Observer Clan]

congratulations, you know how to look a word up in the dictionary, i am so proud. you do understand that words usually have multiple meanings for various purposes right? if i use the most stalk, generic term for film, yes, it qualifies, AS I EXPLAINED

but if i go by any modern understanding of a film having a plot, characters, character development... it has NONE of those things, making it not qualify

It's a film. Your "modern understanding" is your subjective view of the definition, which isn't really a "modern understanding" of films at all.

actually my definition has been around for quite a while, and it is literally impossible to make a subjective review of something.

[Dizyntk]

I was hoping halfway through the movie that HAL would kill the bloody astronauts and destroy the ship just so I wouldn't have to watch it anymore.

[Norstal]

It's a film. Your "modern understanding" is your subjective view of the definition, which isn't really a "modern understanding" of films at all.

actually my definition has been around for quite a while, and it is literally impossible to make a subjective review of something.

By whom?

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

It's a film. Your "modern understanding" is your subjective view of the definition, which isn't really a "modern understanding" of films at all.

actually my definition has been around for quite a while, and it is literally impossible to make a subjective review of something.

No one gives a fuck what definition either of you two used - the definition that's been used in this thread without the need for redefining the shit outta it is sufficient.

Seriously, this is as bad as calling dubstep "not music." Or insert genre "not music."

[The Observer Clan]

actually my definition has been around for quite a while, and it is literally impossible to make a subjective review of something.

By whom?

... the movie going public for almost all of the history of film?

[Dizyntk]

Let us just agree that it is, technically, a film. Just a very very very bad film that no sane person should have to sit through.

[Norstal]

By whom?

... the movie going public for almost all of the history of film?

I meant, who made the definition?

[The Observer Clan]

Let us just agree that it is, technically, a film. Just a very very very bad film that no sane person should have to sit through.

still prefer "Anti-Movie", but sure

[Norstal]

actually my definition has been around for quite a while, and it is literally impossible to make a subjective review of something.

No one gives a fuck what definition either of you two used - the definition that's been used in this thread without the need for redefining the shit outta it is sufficient.

Seriously, this is as bad as calling dubstep "not music." Or insert genre "not music."

The definition I used is the one from the dictionary...

I'm trying to see why these people should change the meaning of the word because they don't like a particular work from that type of artwork.

[Dizyntk]

Hell, I would rather watch Day of the Triffids than 2001. And Triffids is not a great movie, but it at least has a coherent plot and some character development.

[The Observer Clan]

... the movie going public for almost all of the history of film?

I meant, who made the definition?

why does it matter who originally thought of that? or even better who honestly gives a fuck wither either are us are right about the definition of film when we are talking about the plot of a plotless movie?

here, sense i am a good sport i will pull a random movie out of my ass and say there test screening... The Great Train Robbery

[Dizyntk]

The Great Train Robbery


Hey, I have that movie. Not too bad a film.

[The Observer Clan]

Hell, I would rather watch Day of the Triffids than 2001. And Triffids is not a great movie, but it at least has a coherent plot and some character development.

i would rather watch... god help me... Bloodrayne 2: Deliverance then 2001 again

[The Observer Clan]

The Great Train Robbery


Hey, I have that movie. Not too bad a film.

i agree, a little grainy and ended on an annoying cliffhanger, but i liked it

[Norstal]

I meant, who made the definition?

why does it matter who originally thought of that? or even better who honestly gives a fuck wither either are us are right about the definition of film when we are talking about the plot of a plotless movie?

Because you think you have the rights to make moving pictures a movie and not a movie. Even an experimental movie is still a movie.

here, sense i am a good sport i will pull a random movie out of my ass and say there test screening... The Great Train Robbery

That sentence semantically makes no sense.

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

No one gives a fuck what definition either of you two used - the definition that's been used in this thread without the need for redefining the shit outta it is sufficient.

Seriously, this is as bad as calling dubstep "not music." Or insert genre "not music."

The definition I used is the one from the dictionary...

I'm trying to see why these people should change the meaning of the word because they don't like a particular work from that type of artwork.

Why else?

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[Christmahanikwanzikah]

why does it matter who originally thought of that? or even better who honestly gives a fuck wither either are us are right about the definition of film when we are talking about the plot of a plotless movie?

Because you think you have the rights to make moving pictures a movie and not a movie. Even an experimental movie is still a movie.

here, sense i am a good sport i will pull a random movie out of my ass and say there test screening... The Great Train Robbery

That sentence semantically makes no sense.

I thought about making one of those, but she said she was turned off by the video camera.



... What?

[Delator]

oh and if we want quotes, hows this one from Arthur C. Clarke: "If you understand 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) completely, we failed. We wanted to raise far more questions than we have answered."

so more or less, they intentionally made a slip-shot and bullshit story that should be impossible to understand, and if you supposedly do, you are in fact calling them failures

For crying out loud...

Just because a movie raises more questions than it answers does not make it impossible to understand.

...if the movie was that far over your head, go read the book.

[Dizyntk]

I have another one that is supposedly such a great film, also by Kubrick, The Shining(1980). Could Kubrick have messed that story up any more than he did. Personally I think Kubrick was over-rated as a director. I liked 3 maybe 4 of his films. The rest were either mediocre or crap.

[Wiztopia]

film(film)
Syllabification:OnOff
Pronunciation:/film/

noun

2 a motion picture; a movie:
a horror film

congratulations, you know how to look a word up in the dictionary, i am so proud. you do understand that words usually have multiple meanings for various purposes right? if i use the most stalk, generic term for film, yes, it qualifies, AS I EXPLAINED

but if i go by any modern understanding of a film having a plot, characters, character development... it has NONE of those things, making it not qualify

Your "modern understanding" is bullshit. Film literally means motion picture or movie. So yes it is all of those.

To be honest, like the Godfather, Donnie Darko, Cube and other such films I have the idea that the majority of people who praise it actually find it boring as fuck but just say what they are expected to say about 'classics'.

A lot of people who praise it are of course sincere. But reading the reviews the films get on a lot of sites I'm really like 'Well, didn't you completely miss the point and just say crap to justify that you are saying what you have to say.'

Same with Bach or reviews of StarCraft II really.

How can a movie that came out in 2001 be called a classic?

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

oh and if we want quotes, hows this one from Arthur C. Clarke: "If you understand 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) completely, we failed. We wanted to raise far more questions than we have answered."

so more or less, they intentionally made a slip-shot and bullshit story that should be impossible to understand, and if you supposedly do, you are in fact calling them failures

For crying out loud...

Just because a movie raises more questions than it answers does not make it impossible to understand.

...if the movie was that far over your head, go read the book.

I liked Jackass. All of the plot holes were expanded on and tied up nicely.

[Dizyntk]

...if the movie was that far over your head, go read the book.

If the movie is halfway well made, you should NOT have to read the book to understand it.

[The Observer Clan]

why does it matter who originally thought of that? or even better who honestly gives a fuck wither either are us are right about the definition of film when we are talking about the plot of a plotless movie?

Because you think you have the rights to make moving pictures a movie and not a movie. Even an experimental movie is still a movie.

here, sense i am a good sport i will pull a random movie out of my ass and say there test screening... The Great Train Robbery

That sentence semantically makes no sense.

the definitions of words are always subject to change... the common IDEA of what you expect to go see when you walk into a movie, A PLOT, CHARACTERS, DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE CHARACTERS, COHERENCE, are not present

because it was shot with a camra, it is by definition a film, but the qualities of such do not make it an acceptable film to watch

you happy with this explanation or should i use smaller words as to not have it go over your head considering this is the 4th fucking time i explained this

[Norstal]

I liked Jackass. All of the plot holes were expanded on and tied up nicely.

At first I was like "Woahhhh dude, no way he could do that."

Then I was like, "OH HELL YEAH! HE DID THAT!"