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by Greed and Death » Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:56 pm
by Hungarian Regions » Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:57 pm
Helertia wrote:He (Jesus) doesn't need a gun - Humans are 80% water, and he can turn that into wine. Instant death.
by Wamitoria » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:00 pm
Hungarian Regions wrote:Just for more information we are both First world Nations but i am using Imeriata's tactics
by Soviet Haaregrad » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:00 pm
by Hungarian Regions » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:02 pm
Helertia wrote:He (Jesus) doesn't need a gun - Humans are 80% water, and he can turn that into wine. Instant death.
by Wamitoria » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:03 pm
by Greed and Death » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:04 pm
by Soviet Haaregrad » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:04 pm
by Wamitoria » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:05 pm
by Hungarian Regions » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:07 pm
Helertia wrote:He (Jesus) doesn't need a gun - Humans are 80% water, and he can turn that into wine. Instant death.
by Great Pongo » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:12 pm
by Wanderjar » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:14 pm
Bradforsonia wrote:Trench warfare hasn't been viable between major powers in most locations since 1930's because of air and artillery technology.
However theoretically it could be used with floral cover overhead a.k.a. a forest.
There really hasn't been a major war between matched powers though since the 1940s so anything we can say between 1st world countries would be speculation. however as others have said a war between 2 third world countries (since when has that happened?) would probably take place in trenches.
by Wamitoria » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:15 pm
Great Pongo wrote:Trenches and foxholes are the only viable means to survive modern firepower. Not having any earthworks is lol
Trench warfare arises when both armies are equally powerful and incapable of gaining any offensive momentum. Not to mention eixxst in every single defensive location if they have any intelligence.
People who claim trenches are useless learned military history from highschool and have no grasp on military tactics.
by Great Pongo » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:24 pm
Wamitoria wrote:Great Pongo wrote:Trenches and foxholes are the only viable means to survive modern firepower. Not having any earthworks is lol
Trench warfare arises when both armies are equally powerful and incapable of gaining any offensive momentum. Not to mention eixxst in every single defensive location if they have any intelligence.
People who claim trenches are useless learned military history from highschool and have no grasp on military tactics.
Trenches aren't useless, but they're hardly an end-all defense. If the enemy manages to bring up enough heavy weapons, they could easily be overrun.
by Wamitoria » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:26 pm
by The Bleeding Roses » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:30 pm
by The Bleeding Roses » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:31 pm
Altamirus wrote:Wamitoria wrote:Trenches aren't useless, but they're hardly an end-all defense. If the enemy manages to bring up enough heavy weapons, they could easily be overrun.
^This, If you have the time and resources, Concrete pill boxes,bunkers, caverns built into mount ranges, and underground tunnels networks works much better or a combination of all three, along with false caverns and such. Works much better and provides much more protection that a simple line of enter connected foxholes.
by Wamitoria » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:34 pm
The Bleeding Roses wrote:Altamirus wrote:^This, If you have the time and resources, Concrete pill boxes,bunkers, caverns built into mount ranges, and underground tunnels networks works much better or a combination of all three, along with false caverns and such. Works much better and provides much more protection that a simple line of enter connected foxholes.
A BLU-113 Super Penetrator can go through over 20 feet of reinforced concrete... everything you stated is useless.
by The Bleeding Roses » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:38 pm
Great Pongo wrote:Trenches and foxholes are the only viable means to survive modern firepower. Not having any earthworks is lol
Trench warfare arises when both armies are equally powerful and incapable of gaining any offensive momentum. Not to mention eixxst in every single defensive location if they have any intelligence.
People who claim trenches are useless learned military history from highschool and have no grasp on military tactics.
by SD_Film Artists » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:38 pm
by Wilgrove » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:40 pm
Hungarian Regions wrote:Is trench Warfare still a Viable means of defense today?
by New Manvir » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:42 pm
by AETEN II » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:42 pm
New Manvir wrote:Use energy shields instead.
"Quod Vult, Valde Valt"
Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the V.P. is such a V.I.P., shouldn't we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? 'Cause if it leaks to the V.C. he could end up M.I.A., and then we'd all be put out in K.P.
Nationstatelandsville wrote:"Why'd the chicken cross the street?"
"Because your dad's a whore."
"...He died a week ago."
"Of syphilis, I bet."
by Great Pongo » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:44 pm
Wamitoria wrote:Great Pongo wrote:
Any competent Commander forms his defence in depth. This was common knowledge in 1916.
However, if the enemy employs infiltration tactics, many of the advantages that trenches provide can be avoided.
And depth doesn't mean shit when JDAMs are raining on your fortifications.
The Bleeding Roses wrote:Great Pongo wrote:Trenches and foxholes are the only viable means to survive modern firepower. Not having any earthworks is lol
Trench warfare arises when both armies are equally powerful and incapable of gaining any offensive momentum. Not to mention eixxst in every single defensive location if they have any intelligence.
People who claim trenches are useless learned military history from highschool and have no grasp on military tactics.
Maginot line.
Siegfried line.
French Coastal defenses.
Yep... the cost of all that infrastructure certainly paid off.
Please, do some research before you are condescending. Mobility is the bread and butter of a modern army.
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