Trench Warfare

[Greed and Death]

Individual/small squad maneuver techniques pretty much trump it.

[Hungarian Regions]

Just for more information we are both First world Nations but i am using Imeriata's tactics

[Seheron]

Precision bombing renders trench defenses pretty much useless. It didn't work out too well for Saddam Husseins army in 1991.

[Wamitoria]

Just for more information we are both First world Nations but i am using Imeriata's tactics

Seriously, go for Infiltration tactics, they work better against trenches than more trenches.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Infiltration and combined arms techniques should overcome it. Trench warfare only existed for a short period where defensive technology shot way ahead of offensive. The only real exception since then has been where there's been a lack of armour, air power and troops able to coordinate attacks on a small scale.

[Hungarian Regions]

Just for more information we are both First world Nations but i am using Imeriata's tactics

Seriously, go for Infiltration tactics, they work better against trenches than more trenches.

I am defending against an invasion.

[Wamitoria]

Seriously, go for Infiltration tactics, they work better against trenches than more trenches.

I am defending against an invasion.

Oh, then dig in and fortify whatever you can.

... just don't forget to firebomb enemy formations, artillery, and missile batteries.

[Greed and Death]

Seriously, go for Infiltration tactics, they work better against trenches than more trenches.

I am defending against an invasion.

Counter offensive then, let them come into your country then when they stop to let their supply lines catch up you launch your counter attacks.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Seriously, go for Infiltration tactics, they work better against trenches than more trenches.

I am defending against an invasion.

Lrn2deep battle.

[Wamitoria]

I am defending against an invasion.

Counter offensive then, let them come into your country then when they stop to let their supply lines catch up you launch your counter attacks.

^That too.

[Hungarian Regions]

I am defending against an invasion.

Oh, then dig in and fortify whatever you can.

... just don't forget to firebomb enemy formations, artillery, and missile batteries.

Thats the plan let them come to me and i will kill as many as possible.

Another problem is my enemy is double my size

[Great Pongo]

Trenches and foxholes are the only viable means to survive modern firepower. Not having any earthworks is lol

Trench warfare arises when both armies are equally powerful and incapable of gaining any offensive momentum. Not to mention eixxst in every single defensive location if they have any intelligence.

People who claim trenches are useless learned military history from highschool and have no grasp on military tactics.

[Wanderjar]

Trench warfare hasn't been viable between major powers in most locations since 1930's because of air and artillery technology.
However theoretically it could be used with floral cover overhead a.k.a. a forest.
There really hasn't been a major war between matched powers though since the 1940s so anything we can say between 1st world countries would be speculation. however as others have said a war between 2 third world countries (since when has that happened?) would probably take place in trenches.

...Cenepa War between Peru and Ecuador, The Congo Wars between Congo, Namibia, Chad, Zimbabwe, and Angola, against Uganda, Rwanda, and Burundi, then you have the Football War between Honduras and Nicaragua, The East Timor Crisis, and many, many, many other wars. Third World nations go to war against each other all the time. You just don't hear about it.

[Wamitoria]

Trenches and foxholes are the only viable means to survive modern firepower. Not having any earthworks is lol

Trench warfare arises when both armies are equally powerful and incapable of gaining any offensive momentum. Not to mention eixxst in every single defensive location if they have any intelligence.

People who claim trenches are useless learned military history from highschool and have no grasp on military tactics.

Trenches aren't useless, but they're hardly an end-all defense. If the enemy manages to bring up enough heavy weapons, they could easily be overrun.

[Great Pongo]

Trenches and foxholes are the only viable means to survive modern firepower. Not having any earthworks is lol

Trench warfare arises when both armies are equally powerful and incapable of gaining any offensive momentum. Not to mention eixxst in every single defensive location if they have any intelligence.

People who claim trenches are useless learned military history from highschool and have no grasp on military tactics.

Trenches aren't useless, but they're hardly an end-all defense. If the enemy manages to bring up enough heavy weapons, they could easily be overrun.

Any competent Commander forms his defence in depth. This was common knowledge in 1916.

[Wamitoria]

Trenches aren't useless, but they're hardly an end-all defense. If the enemy manages to bring up enough heavy weapons, they could easily be overrun.

Any competent Commander forms his defence in depth. This was common knowledge in 1916.

However, if the enemy employs infiltration tactics, many of the advantages that trenches provide can be avoided.

And depth doesn't mean shit when JDAMs are raining on your fortifications.

[The Bleeding Roses]

Not really.

Air support, intelligent artillery, modern armor, and cruise missiles pretty much relegated trench warfare to a hasty fighting position role.

[The Bleeding Roses]

Trenches aren't useless, but they're hardly an end-all defense. If the enemy manages to bring up enough heavy weapons, they could easily be overrun.

^This, If you have the time and resources, Concrete pill boxes,bunkers, caverns built into mount ranges, and underground tunnels networks works much better or a combination of all three, along with false caverns and such. Works much better and provides much more protection that a simple line of enter connected foxholes.

A BLU-113 Super Penetrator can go through over 20 feet of reinforced concrete... everything you stated is useless.

[Wamitoria]

^This, If you have the time and resources, Concrete pill boxes,bunkers, caverns built into mount ranges, and underground tunnels networks works much better or a combination of all three, along with false caverns and such. Works much better and provides much more protection that a simple line of enter connected foxholes.

A BLU-113 Super Penetrator can go through over 20 feet of reinforced concrete... everything you stated is useless.

Everyone on here seems to have read the Imperial Japanese Defense manual.

But seriously, trenches aren't useful for static defense, and are meant to fortify weak areas of a front line temporarily. In any other uses, they can quickly be overrun.

[The Bleeding Roses]

Trenches and foxholes are the only viable means to survive modern firepower. Not having any earthworks is lol

Trench warfare arises when both armies are equally powerful and incapable of gaining any offensive momentum. Not to mention eixxst in every single defensive location if they have any intelligence.

People who claim trenches are useless learned military history from highschool and have no grasp on military tactics.

Maginot line.

Siegfried line.

French Coastal defenses.

Yep... the cost of all that infrastructure certainly paid off.

Please, do some research before you are condescending. Mobility is the bread and butter of a modern army.

[SD_Film Artists]

Like other forms of cover they'd still work in smaller skirmishes, but as many people have said on here, air power and other modern weapons systems have made WW1-scale trenches obsolete.

[Wilgrove]

Is trench Warfare still a Viable means of defense today?

Well seeing how we can basically bomb anything and everything, I'd say no. All you'd need to do is to do a carpet bombing with a B-52 to make Trench Warfare obsolete.

[New Manvir]

Use energy shields instead.

[AETEN II]

Use energy shields instead.

But den teh battle droids will walk through it and corner you!

[Great Pongo]

Any competent Commander forms his defence in depth. This was common knowledge in 1916.

However, if the enemy employs infiltration tactics, many of the advantages that trenches provide can be avoided.

And depth doesn't mean shit when JDAMs are raining on your fortifications.

olol

obvsly bombers are not going to be shot down faster then Mexican policeman

And infiltration assault leads to heavy damage and... do you even know how the shit even works?

Trenches and foxholes are the only viable means to survive modern firepower. Not having any earthworks is lol

Trench warfare arises when both armies are equally powerful and incapable of gaining any offensive momentum. Not to mention eixxst in every single defensive location if they have any intelligence.

People who claim trenches are useless learned military history from highschool and have no grasp on military tactics.

Maginot line.

Siegfried line.

French Coastal defenses.

Yep... the cost of all that infrastructure certainly paid off.

Please, do some research before you are condescending. Mobility is the bread and butter of a modern army.

To think i usually agree wholesomely with your opinion in NSG...

The Maginot line did what it was intended to do. make the Germans attack through Belgium. It's French incompetence not the Maginot lines fault that they failed in that regard. The Maginot fucked over the Germans that did try to break through it.

the Siegfriend line helf back Patton for 6 fucking months.

All for minimal cost in infratructure. The Maginot cost 1% of the French defensive budget over twenty years.

lolmobility is something modern armchairgenerals felate each other over without understanding how the fuck they are going to survive tac nukes exploding all over their precious armoured columns