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Is School Slavery With Benfits?

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Postby Bendira » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:13 pm

The Norwegian Blue wrote:A Helpful Guide For People Thinking of Comparing Something To Slavery

Please answer the following questions about the thing which you intend to compare to slavery.

1. Does it involve you physically being bought and sold for money?

2. Did anyone strip you naked, put you on a block, and force you to stand there while people inspected you to determine how much money you were worth?

3. Did it involve you being violently kidnapped from your home?

4. Has it ever put you in chains?

5. Does it rape you?

6. Does it threaten to kill you if you disobey?

7. How about your family? Does it threaten to kill them?

8. Does it force you to engage in strenuous physical labor for hours on end, and beat you if you so much as try to rest?

9. Does it leave you in constant fear of your life?

10. If you get pregnant, does it take your children away and sell them?

11. Is it almost unimaginably more awful than having to do your pre-algebra homework?

If you answered "no" to all of these questions, congratulations! Your comparison is a ridiculous piece of hyperbole!



slavery [ˈsleɪvərɪ]
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1. (Law) the state or condition of being a slave; a civil relationship whereby one person has absolute power over another and controls his life, liberty, and fortune
2. the subjection of a person to another person, esp in being forced into work
3. the condition of being subject to some influence or habit
4. (Business / Industrial Relations & HR Terms) work done in harsh conditions for low pay



So in other words, that was cute but dumb.
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Postby Bendira » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:14 pm

Banold wrote:
just Im paying them in taxes


Talk about slavery...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs&feature=player_embedded#at=209

Anything forced against your will, done w/o your consent, or made to happen via coercion is by definition, slavery.

Mandatory schooling is just like mandatory military service/conscription...


Which, actually, is also slavery.
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Postby Sdaeriji » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:15 pm

Bendira wrote:Public education is a prison. Anybody that says otherwise is a liar. It clearly is a prison, you cannot leave. Now whether it has benefits or not is the actual question, personally id say no. The education you receive in the classroom can be obtained at a library for virtually free, and even a better education at that. What you pay for with your taxes is the prison infrustructure to cage in all the kids pretty much.


Sure, you say it's a prison, but is it slavery?

Your defilement of the English language continues on schedule.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:15 pm

Oh, good. Bendira's here. This should be amusing.
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Postby Bendira » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:16 pm

Sdaeriji wrote:
Bendira wrote:Public education is a prison. Anybody that says otherwise is a liar. It clearly is a prison, you cannot leave. Now whether it has benefits or not is the actual question, personally id say no. The education you receive in the classroom can be obtained at a library for virtually free, and even a better education at that. What you pay for with your taxes is the prison infrustructure to cage in all the kids pretty much.


Sure, you say it's a prison, but is it slavery?

Your defilement of the English language continues on schedule.


slavery [ˈsleɪvərɪ]
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1. (Law) the state or condition of being a slave; a civil relationship whereby one person has absolute power over another and controls his life, liberty, and fortune
2. the subjection of a person to another person, esp in being forced into work
3. the condition of being subject to some influence or habit
4. (Business / Industrial Relations & HR Terms) work done in harsh conditions for low pay


Yes, it is slavery that occurs inside a prison.
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Postby Harata » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:17 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:
Bendira wrote:Public education is a prison. Anybody that says otherwise is a liar. It clearly is a prison, you cannot leave. Now whether it has benefits or not is the actual question, personally id say no. The education you receive in the classroom can be obtained at a library for virtually free, and even a better education at that. What you pay for with your taxes is the prison infrustructure to cage in all the kids pretty much.

Oh boo hoo. Someone is making poor kids learn something useful for 8 hours a day. And regardless of what you think about being an autodidact, learning is much easier and more effective when it is guided by a trained educator.


If only we actually learned for those 8 hours. My senior year in high school, I swear the two classes I attended most often were minesweeper and hearts, if you take my meaning.
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Postby Sdaeriji » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:17 pm

Bendira wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Sure, you say it's a prison, but is it slavery?

Your defilement of the English language continues on schedule.


slavery [ˈsleɪvərɪ]
n
1. (Law) the state or condition of being a slave; a civil relationship whereby one person has absolute power over another and controls his life, liberty, and fortune
2. the subjection of a person to another person, esp in being forced into work
3. the condition of being subject to some influence or habit
4. (Business / Industrial Relations & HR Terms) work done in harsh conditions for low pay


Yes, it is slavery that occurs inside a prison.


Which specific definition does school fall under?
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Postby Trotskylvania » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:19 pm

Bendira wrote:
The Norwegian Blue wrote:A Helpful Guide For People Thinking of Comparing Something To Slavery

Please answer the following questions about the thing which you intend to compare to slavery.

1. Does it involve you physically being bought and sold for money?

2. Did anyone strip you naked, put you on a block, and force you to stand there while people inspected you to determine how much money you were worth?

3. Did it involve you being violently kidnapped from your home?

4. Has it ever put you in chains?

5. Does it rape you?

6. Does it threaten to kill you if you disobey?

7. How about your family? Does it threaten to kill them?

8. Does it force you to engage in strenuous physical labor for hours on end, and beat you if you so much as try to rest?

9. Does it leave you in constant fear of your life?

10. If you get pregnant, does it take your children away and sell them?

11. Is it almost unimaginably more awful than having to do your pre-algebra homework?

If you answered "no" to all of these questions, congratulations! Your comparison is a ridiculous piece of hyperbole!



slavery [ˈsleɪvərɪ]
n
1. (Law) the state or condition of being a slave; a civil relationship whereby one person has absolute power over another and controls his life, liberty, and fortune
2. the subjection of a person to another person, esp in being forced into work
3. the condition of being subject to some influence or habit
4. (Business / Industrial Relations & HR Terms) work done in harsh conditions for low pay



So in other words, that was cute but dumb.

So show me how being a minor in the public education system makes one in a position where another "has absolute power" over them and controls their "life, liberty and fortune". Show me how mandatory education makes someone subjected to another.
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Postby New Manvir » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:19 pm

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Only a Nazi would think like that, you Nazi.


Perhaps fascist, dearie, but not Nazi. I have little sympathy with the Austrian corporal of no breeding.


You know who else didn't like Nazis? The Soviet Union.

That's just what I expected you to say, Comrade.
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Postby Bendira » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:19 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:
Bendira wrote:Public education is a prison. Anybody that says otherwise is a liar. It clearly is a prison, you cannot leave. Now whether it has benefits or not is the actual question, personally id say no. The education you receive in the classroom can be obtained at a library for virtually free, and even a better education at that. What you pay for with your taxes is the prison infrustructure to cage in all the kids pretty much.

Oh boo hoo. Someone is making poor kids learn something useful for 8 hours a day. And regardless of what you think about being an autodidact, learning is much easier and more effective when it is guided by a trained educator.


Lol atleast you aren't even trying to argue that it isn't a system of slavery and imprisonment. You are just saying you don't care.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:21 pm

Bendira wrote:Public education is a prison. Anybody that says otherwise is a liar. It clearly is a prison, you cannot leave.


By which logic, the Earth, and life, itself, are both prisons, too.

Meaningless mantra in place of thought. It gets old real quick.
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Postby Brewdomia » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:21 pm

Bendira wrote:Public education is a prison. Anybody that says otherwise is a liar. It clearly is a prison, you cannot leave. Now whether it has benefits or not is the actual question, personally id say no. The education you receive in the classroom can be obtained at a library for virtually free, and even a better education at that. What you pay for with your taxes is the prison infrustructure to cage in all the kids pretty much.


Not really, if you pay attention, and somewhat apply yourself you can do well. Plus, at school you can chill with friends, talk to chicks, and play sports and shit. It also teaches social skills and practical skills useful for the real world.

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Postby Bendira » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:21 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:
Bendira wrote:

slavery [ˈsleɪvərɪ]
n
1. (Law) the state or condition of being a slave; a civil relationship whereby one person has absolute power over another and controls his life, liberty, and fortune
2. the subjection of a person to another person, esp in being forced into work
3. the condition of being subject to some influence or habit
4. (Business / Industrial Relations & HR Terms) work done in harsh conditions for low pay



So in other words, that was cute but dumb.

So show me how being a minor in the public education system makes one in a position where another "has absolute power" over them and controls their "life, liberty and fortune". Show me how mandatory education makes someone subjected to another.



What happens if you never go, or if you do go but tell the teacher to fuck off every day.
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Postby Bendira » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:22 pm

Brewdomia wrote:
Bendira wrote:Public education is a prison. Anybody that says otherwise is a liar. It clearly is a prison, you cannot leave. Now whether it has benefits or not is the actual question, personally id say no. The education you receive in the classroom can be obtained at a library for virtually free, and even a better education at that. What you pay for with your taxes is the prison infrustructure to cage in all the kids pretty much.


Not really, if you pay attention, and somewhat apply yourself you can do well. Plus, at school you can chill with friends, talk to chicks, and play sports and shit. It also teaches social skills and practical skills useful for the real world.


African cotton pickers got to sing songs too. Shit was so cash.
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Postby Rastynhaven » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:22 pm

I accidently clicked yes. I meant no, even though I hate going to school, it can be fun at times and prepares you for life.

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Postby Trotskylvania » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:23 pm

Bendira wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:Oh boo hoo. Someone is making poor kids learn something useful for 8 hours a day. And regardless of what you think about being an autodidact, learning is much easier and more effective when it is guided by a trained educator.


Lol atleast you aren't even trying to argue that it isn't a system of slavery and imprisonment. You are just saying you don't care.

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Postby Sdaeriji » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:23 pm

Bendira wrote:
Brewdomia wrote:
Not really, if you pay attention, and somewhat apply yourself you can do well. Plus, at school you can chill with friends, talk to chicks, and play sports and shit. It also teaches social skills and practical skills useful for the real world.


African cotton pickers got to sing songs too. Shit was so cash.


You've never met a hyperbole that you didn't rape, disembowel, murder, and cannibalize, have you?

Oh shi-
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Postby Brewdomia » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:24 pm

Bendira wrote:
Brewdomia wrote:
Not really, if you pay attention, and somewhat apply yourself you can do well. Plus, at school you can chill with friends, talk to chicks, and play sports and shit. It also teaches social skills and practical skills useful for the real world.


African cotton pickers got to sing songs too. Shit was so cash.


Good one sport.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:24 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Bendira wrote:Public education is a prison. Anybody that says otherwise is a liar. It clearly is a prison, you cannot leave.


By which logic, the Earth, and life, itself, are both prisons, too.

Meaningless mantra in place of thought. It gets old real quick.

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Postby The Norwegian Blue » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:24 pm

Sdaeriji wrote:
Bendira wrote:
African cotton pickers got to sing songs too. Shit was so cash.


You've never met a hyperbole that you didn't rape, disembowel, murder, and cannibalize, have you?

Oh shi-


Ha. Nicely done.
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Postby Trotskylvania » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:25 pm

Bendira wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:So show me how being a minor in the public education system makes one in a position where another "has absolute power" over them and controls their "life, liberty and fortune". Show me how mandatory education makes someone subjected to another.



What happens if you never go, or if you do go but tell the teacher to fuck off every day.

Do they or do they not have absolute power over the students life, liberty and fortune? If you can't or won't answer, then bow the fuck out, grow up, and quit wasting our time with your misaimed ideological fanaticism.
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Postby The Floridian Coast » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:26 pm

I definitely hated school, in fact I dropped out when I was 16 and got a GED (with a near perfect score, what a great education system I was in). Though I wouldn't go so far to call it slavery, it's not as if the state gains labor or monetary value by students being there, they are actually spending money.

The American school system is a pile of cow shit, but the concept of school itself is still good and in many ways necessary.
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Postby Geniasis » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:28 pm

Ifreann wrote:NSG is a prison, yo. [obligatory Eagles reference]


They stab it with their steely knives BUT THEY JUST CAN'T KILL THE BEAST
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Postby Bendira » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:32 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:
Bendira wrote:

What happens if you never go, or if you do go but tell the teacher to fuck off every day.

Do they or do they not have absolute power over the students life, liberty and fortune? If you can't or won't answer, then bow the fuck out, grow up, and quit wasting our time with your misaimed ideological fanaticism.


Schools combined with government do, yes. Hell, these kids aren't even allowed to work if they want in our society. Hows that not slavery?
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Postby Sdaeriji » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:33 pm

Are pants slavery?
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