Is School Slavery With Benifits?

[Bendira]

I make jokes at my own expense sometimes.

Riiight.

Wikipedia is a good source, but see those [citation needed]? They're synonyms for "bullshit."

And as I've said before, it's a status offense. Meaning, only people who are minors (or look like minors, humans are not Omnipotent) gets the fine. Even then, parents don't have to enroll their kids in the school. Its up to the parents.

Besides, what are kids going to do during the day, if not being educated?

Probably obtain educations for far lower costs, gain knowledge in area's that are important to them, begin working earlier and avoid all of the debts and and everything associated with the modern education system.

[FREEaquaticdancelesson]

School is to slavery like a book is to a whip.

[Bendira]

Except for those 18 hours a day when you're not there?

And you are doing homework, sleeping and unable to achieve any useful goals outside of your forced education.

Using a library requires both literacy and numeracy skills before you can even begin.

Because its impossible for kids to learn to read, write and do mathematics without going to a prison to do it?

Or an institution that gives students the skills to function in society.

African enslavement gave negroes the skills they needed to function in society pretty damn well also. After all, those darkies roll in society is just to pick cotton.

I can. It's quite easy to imagine "nothing".

Maybe you wouldn't have accomplished anything, but I would probably be heavily invested in the market with years of work experience under my belt by now.

Aww... you still have 50 years (on average) to accomplish them.

Yeah, that completely excuses the 1/3 of my life that has been flushed down the toilet.

No doubt because you are employing skills you learnt at school.

I work at a grocery store, stocking shelves. I could have done that without any schooling whatsoever. Keep in mind im not advocating kids don't obtain educations, im just saying I could have read a book on American History at the library in about 5 hours and take away more than I would have gotten in an entire year in public school history classes.

Um... no. The government doesn't prevent anyone from being places other than public school. There are private schools, homeschooling, etc. Lotsa options.

Lololol. "Lotsa options, like private schools and homeschooling"... Yeah...

[Chrobalta]

I think you have school confused with marriage.

[Dazchan]

And you are doing homework, sleeping and unable to achieve any useful goals outside of your forced education.

You heard it here first, folks: homework and sleep take up 18 hours per day.

Because its impossible for kids to learn to read, write and do mathematics without going to a prison to do it?

Oh, I could while away the hours
Conferring with the flowers
Consulting with the rain...

Nobody has said that. On the other hand, you suggested the use of a library to be a viable alternative to formal education. I merely pointed out that the use of a library REQUIRES an education beforehand.

African enslavement gave negroes the skills they needed to function in society pretty damn well also. After all, those darkies roll in society is just to pick cotton.

Wow. I'm utterly speechless at the ridiculousness of this statement.

Maybe you wouldn't have accomplished anything, but I would probably be heavily invested in the market with years of work experience under my belt by now.

So if you could accomplish all of this without an education, why can't you accomplish it with an education? You could have invested in the market while at school, and the vast majority of kids these days work while studying. It sounds to me like you fucked your life up and are looking for an easy target to blame.

In any case, maybe you could have done that. Maybe you would have ended up wedged in a chimney instead.

Yeah, that completely excuses the 1/3 of my life that has been flushed down the toilet.

Sadly, you've yet to prove that your life went down the toilet because of school.

I work at a grocery store, stocking shelves. I could have done that without any schooling whatsoever.

And my head I'll be scratching
While my thoughts were busy hatching
If I only had a brain...

Try reading what I wrote, champ. Your job might not require education, but your life has. The fact that you've, by your own admission, put away "a fair bit of money" shows that you have some sort of ability to manage your money. Where did you acquire these skills?

Keep in mind im not advocating kids don't obtain educations, im just saying I could have read a book on American History at the library in about 5 hours and take away more than I would have gotten in an entire year in public school history classes.

Clearly history wasn't the only class you didn't take much away from.

The use of a library requires prior learning, as I've already pointed out. Also, I don't know about your country's standards, but one of the most important lessons I learnt in history was to evaluate sources and recognise multiple perspectives. You could read a book in five hours (assuming someone taught you to read - if only there was some sort of place where you could send a kid to learn that...), but it would teach you a single perspective, that you would probably take as gospel.

Um... no. The government doesn't prevent anyone from being places other than public school. There are private schools, homeschooling, etc. Lotsa options.

Lololol. "Lotsa options, like private schools and homeschooling"... Yeah...

et cetera

1. And the rest, and the others; to complete a list.

The grocery sells cucumbers, lettuce, radishes, etc.

2. And so forth; to indicate missing information, often well known.

The plagiarism was painfully obvious: "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times," etc.

Maybe you should spend more time paying attention in school instead of bitching about how you're imprisoned.

[Grainne Ni Malley]

School is to slavery like a book is to a whip.

Now that is a poor comparison. Books and whips can both be bound in leather. Plus, both books and whips have been used to educate people. And books have been written about whips. And I can beat someone just as easily with a book as I can with a whip.

[FREEaquaticdancelesson]

School is to slavery like a book is to a whip.

Now that is a poor comparison. Books and whips can both be bound in leather. Plus, both books and whips have been used to educate people. And books have been written about whips. And I can beat someone just as easily with a book as I can with a whip.

Touche', lol.

"how to beat your slaves" could easily be a book.

[Grainne Ni Malley]

Now that is a poor comparison. Books and whips can both be bound in leather. Plus, both books and whips have been used to educate people. And books have been written about whips. And I can beat someone just as easily with a book as I can with a whip.

Touche', lol.

"how to beat your slaves" could easily be a book.

I was thinking about the A.N. Roquelaure (Anne Rice) books: The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty, Beauty's Punishment, and Beauty's Release.

[Bottle]

Except for those 18 hours a day when you're not there?

And you are doing homework, sleeping and unable to achieve any useful goals outside of your forced education.

I managed to have jobs, activities, music lessons, as well as enough time for concerts and significant amounts of experimentation with mind-expanding drugs throughout my schooling.

Granted, you may be a struggling student, but in that case I really don't think you should be resentful toward the teachers and tutors who are (apparently) putting in so much time to help you out.

[Bottle]

Maybe you should spend more time paying attention in school instead of bitching about how you're imprisoned.

It's funny, because when I was in school I always passionately wished that kids like Bendira would just drop out already, so the rest of us could get shit done...but now that I'm out of school I recognize that usually the kids who are most resistant to learning are the ones who need school the most.

[Mad hatters in jeans]

nope but it's no holiday camp either.

[Quelesh]

You could have invested in the market while at school

Only his/her parents could have legally invested in the market, assuming he/she was younger than 18. People younger than 18 can't buy stock or otherwise invest in the market, or legally own any property whatsoever.

[Des-Bal]

My highschool had mandatory community service, I think that qualifies but the supreme court disagrees with me.

[Staenwald]

Decide wether or not School is like slavery. I consider it to be one myself, just Im paying them in taxes. Please reply.

You clearly need school to improve your grammar and spelling. 'Is school, slavery with benefits?'

[Meryuma]

It's not slavery, because technically you pay to be there.

Your parents are forced to pay, and they need to ask the state's permission not to go.

"Slavery" is still a little hyperbolic, though.

[Rejaina]

Decide wether or not School is like slavery. I consider it to be one myself, just Im paying them in taxes. Please reply.

No it not and I'm in school it's just not as effective as we want it

[Meowfoundland]

Decide wether or not School is like slavery. I consider it to be one myself, just Im paying them in taxes. Please reply.

I'm pretty sure -actual- slaves would do anything to have access to school.

[Bottle]

Decide wether or not School is like slavery. I consider it to be one myself, just Im paying them in taxes. Please reply.

I'm pretty sure -actual- slaves would do anything to have access to school.

First World Problems(tm), eh?

"Oooooh it's SO HORRIBLE to have access to quality public education! I hate being handed opportunities to gain literacy!"

[Norstal]

Probably obtain educations for far lower costs, gain knowledge in area's that are important to them, begin working earlier and avoid all of the debts and and everything associated with the modern education system.

You can do that whilst still being educated in school if you need the money that bad when you're of working age (lowest age is 14, though vary by state).

Or are you suggesting child labor?

[Daistallia 2104]

In the words of Ira Gershwin, it ain't necessarily so.

Conjunction junction, what's your function?

Outdated nonsense rule is outdated and nonsensical.

In the 1700s it was perfectly acceptable to start sentences with a conjunction. And it is becoming increasingly prevalent again now. But why use a conjunction to start a sentence? There are many advantages:

* It maintains an easy, conversational style.
* It preserves a link between sentences, whilst still delivering in a short, punchy vein. (Great for on-line writing).
* It reduces the need for long, wordy compound sentences.

It is not grammatically incorrect to start a sentence with 'or', 'and' or 'but', and never has been, although it used to be discouraged. Now, thanks to the advent of email, and the proliferation of blogs and other on-line resources, public acceptance is much more forthcoming.

http://www.suite101.com/content/grammar ... but-a74404

[The Cat-Tribe]

Except for those 18 hours a day when you're not there?

And you are doing homework, sleeping and unable to achieve any useful goals outside of your forced education.

Using a library requires both literacy and numeracy skills before you can even begin.

Because its impossible for kids to learn to read, write and do mathematics without going to a prison to do it?

Or an institution that gives students the skills to function in society.

African enslavement gave negroes the skills they needed to function in society pretty damn well also. After all, those darkies roll in society is just to pick cotton.

I can. It's quite easy to imagine "nothing".

Maybe you wouldn't have accomplished anything, but I would probably be heavily invested in the market with years of work experience under my belt by now.

Aww... you still have 50 years (on average) to accomplish them.

Yeah, that completely excuses the 1/3 of my life that has been flushed down the toilet.

No doubt because you are employing skills you learnt at school.

I work at a grocery store, stocking shelves. I could have done that without any schooling whatsoever. Keep in mind im not advocating kids don't obtain educations, im just saying I could have read a book on American History at the library in about 5 hours and take away more than I would have gotten in an entire year in public school history classes.

Um... no. The government doesn't prevent anyone from being places other than public school. There are private schools, homeschooling, etc. Lotsa options.

Lololol. "Lotsa options, like private schools and homeschooling"... Yeah...

Um. Bendira, weren't recently or aren't you currently a college student of some sort?

If so, (1) doesn't that prove education has value to you and (2) didn't you need earlier education to get into college?

[The Cat-Tribe]

Conjunction junction, what's your function?

Outdated nonsense rule is outdated and nonsensical.

In the 1700s it was perfectly acceptable to start sentences with a conjunction. And it is becoming increasingly prevalent again now. But why use a conjunction to start a sentence? There are many advantages:

* It maintains an easy, conversational style.
* It preserves a link between sentences, whilst still delivering in a short, punchy vein. (Great for on-line writing).
* It reduces the need for long, wordy compound sentences.

It is not grammatically incorrect to start a sentence with 'or', 'and' or 'but', and never has been, although it used to be discouraged. Now, thanks to the advent of email, and the proliferation of blogs and other on-line resources, public acceptance is much more forthcoming.

http://www.suite101.com/content/grammar ... but-a74404

Agreed.

[Dazchan]

You could have invested in the market while at school

Only his/her parents could have legally invested in the market, assuming he/she was younger than 18. People younger than 18 can't buy stock or otherwise invest in the market, or legally own any property whatsoever.

Hm. You learn something every day. Not that it alters anything.

[Norstal]

Um. Bendira, weren't recently or aren't you currently a college student of some sort?

If so, (1) doesn't that prove education has value to you and (2) didn't you need earlier education to get into college?

That's quite peculiar. The requirements for a community college is a GED/High School diploma. And discouraging the same education they received to get where they are today...it makes my head hurts.

[Meowfoundland]

"Oooooh it's SO HORRIBLE to have access to quality public education! I hate being handed opportunities to gain literacy!"

If these people who always complain that they live in tyranny and are slaves actually were in the situation they claim that to be in, they wouldn't even have the right to complain.