Is School Slavery With Benifits?

[Geniasis]

My schooling isn't really slavery but it's close. We were made to wear our full winter uniforms, blazers and all, on a 40* Celsius day and we couldn't get changed after leaving the grounds because they school stations teachers at all the local public transport stops. It's not slavery it's torture.

And this happens year after year.

Wait, they can force you to wear your uniforms when it's not part of the school day?

[Farnhamia]

I would call it part-time incarceration rather than slavery.

A Helpful Guide For People Thinking of Comparing Something To Slavery

Please answer the following questions about the thing which you intend to compare to slavery.

1. Does it involve you physically being bought and sold for money?

2. Did anyone strip you naked, put you on a block, and force you to stand there while people inspected you to determine how much money you were worth?

3. Did it involve you being violently kidnapped from your home?

4. Has it ever put you in chains?

5. Does it rape you?

6. Does it threaten to kill you if you disobey?

7. How about your family? Does it threaten to kill them?

8. Does it force you to engage in strenuous physical labor for hours on end, and beat you if you so much as try to rest?

9. Does it leave you in constant fear of your life?

10. If you get pregnant, does it take your children away and sell them?

11. Is it almost unimaginably more awful than having to do your pre-algebra homework?

If you answered "no" to all of these questions, congratulations! Your comparison is a ridiculous piece of hyperbole!

The OP isn't comparing school to the institution of slavery of blacks by whites as it was practiced in 18th and 19th century America. He/she is comparing it to the dictionary definition, which isn't too far off, especially definition 2:

2. A condition of subjection or submission characterized by lack of freedom of action or of will.

By which logic, the Earth, and life, itself, are both prisons, too.

Meaningless mantra in place of thought. It gets old real quick.

No one uses force to prevent me from leaving the Earth, but the force of law, backed up by armed agents of the state, is used to compel school attendance. A young person who refuses to go to school will eventually be arrested by armed state agents and locked up in some kind of prison for that refusal.

I daresay that the "some kind of prison" a truant child will be taken to is either the school they are supposed to be attending or their home. "Prison," my eye.

[KatBoo]

I love school and I would never write like that. I'm a national spelling bee champion, an honour roll student and a proud grammar nazi. I'm also a "lower teen". Don't discriminate based on age, thanks.

So you've been playing this game since before you were 10? That's surprising.

And, yeah, it's stereotyping. Everybody gets something from it. That's the good bit. An American calls me an ignorant surfer, I call him a retard whose favourite word is "SOCIALISM!!!". An Irishman tells me I should be considered African, I say he should go back to the pub. And it goes on.

Yes. I have. I'm precocious you could say.

And since you do it it's awesome, right?

[Keronians]

So you've been playing this game since before you were 10? That's surprising.

And, yeah, it's stereotyping. Everybody gets something from it. That's the good bit. An American calls me an ignorant surfer, I call him a retard whose favourite word is "SOCIALISM!!!". An Irishman tells me I should be considered African, I say he should go back to the pub. And it goes on.

Yes. I have. I'm precocious you could say.

And since you do it it's awesome, right?

Nah, it's just harmless fun.

Honestly, I can't believe this thread has over 6 pages...

I also see Bendira is well respected on NSG.

[Norstal]

I also see Bendira is well respected on NSG.

Oh he's really not...

Well, no one can really be respected after they admit to be a troll.

[Dakini]

How would school be slavery with benefits? You're not doing work for someone, you're doing work for yourself and your own self-improvement.

[Kubrath]

It depends on the school. In general, however, there can be some major improvements made, which should be obvious to the rest.

[United Dependencies]

How would school be slavery with benefits? You're not doing work for someone, you're doing work for yourself and your own self-improvement.

The school makes me do stuff instead of letting me lay around all day. It's not like I need school anyway since I already know everything I need to live in the real world. Gosh!

[Luna Amore]

The OP is on to something.
School is slavery.
College is slavery you pay for.
Work is just slavery you get paid for.
Society is slavery too, all those damn laws.
Hell, even life is slavery, boxing me in with its constraining 'physics'.

[United Dependencies]

The OP is on to something.
School is slavery.
College is slavery you pay for.
Work is just slavery you get paid for.
Society is slavery too, all those damn laws.
Hell, even life is slavery, boxing me in with its constraining 'physics'.

You mean... The scientologist were right!

[Norstal]

The OP is on to something.
School is slavery.
College is slavery you pay for.
Work is just slavery you get paid for.
Society is slavery too, all those damn laws.
Hell, even life is slavery, boxing me in with its constraining 'physics'.

Besides, no one can really force you to go to school. Truancy is a status offense.

[Bendira]

I also see Bendira is well respected on NSG.

Oh he's really not...

Well, no one can really be respected after they admit to be a troll.

Lol source?

[United Dependencies]

Im Bendira, ancap troll, nice to meet you

[Bendira]

The OP is on to something.
School is slavery.
College is slavery you pay for.
Work is just slavery you get paid for.
Society is slavery too, all those damn laws.
Hell, even life is slavery, boxing me in with its constraining 'physics'.

Besides, no one can really force you to go to school. Truancy is a status offense.

In the United States, the fine for truancy can range from $250 to as much as $5000. In some cities[clarification needed] teenagers found on the streets during school hours are sometimes even handcuffed[citation needed]. About 12,000 students were ticketed for truancy in 2008 in Los Angeles.[6] Many states provide for the appointment of local truancy officers who have the authority to arrest habitually truant youths and bring them to their parents or to the school they are supposed to attend. Many states[clarification needed] also have the power to revoke a students driver's license. It is an office which, where it exists, is often held by a person also a constable or sheriff. However, the position of a full-time truancy officer is generally viewed[weasel words] as being a relic from the 19th century when mandatory school attendance was relatively new. Truancy regulations today are generally enforced by school officials under the context of parental responsibility. New automated calling systems allow the automated notification of parents when a child is not marked present in the computer, and truancy records for many states are available for inspection online.[citation needed]

[Bendira]

Im Bendira, ancap troll, nice to meet you

I make jokes at my own expense sometimes.

[Dakini]

How would school be slavery with benefits? You're not doing work for someone, you're doing work for yourself and your own self-improvement.

Because they school makes me do stuff instead of letting me lay around all day. It's not like I need school any way sense I already know everything I need to live in the real world. Gosh!

You shouldn't start a sentence with a conjunction (e.g. and, but, or).
Anyway is one word.
I think you mean "since", not "sense".

I'm not sure if that was part of your irony, but I can be a grammar Nazi anyway.

[United Dependencies]

Because they school makes me do stuff instead of letting me lay around all day. It's not like I need school any way sense I already know everything I need to live in the real world. Gosh!

You shouldn't start a sentence with a conjunction (e.g. and, but, or).
Anyway is one word.
I think you mean "since", not "sense".

I'm not sure if that was part of your irony, but I can be a grammar Nazi anyway.

Meh.

[Daistallia 2104]

With slavery there's the ability to consent or not. With school, at least as usually applied to mean a place for educating children, there is not, as those sent there are unable to consent.

Also, slavery involves forced labor for the benefit of the slaver while involves education for the benefit of the student.

So no, school is niothing like slavery.

Decide wether or not School is like slavery. I consider it to be one myself, just Im paying them in taxes. Please reply.

You "consider school to be a slavery"?
Maybe you need a bit more schooling yourself.

Indeed. Doesn't that nearly always seem to be the case with the schoolage posters who advocate the consent of the underaged?

[Daistallia 2104]

You shouldn't start a sentence with a conjunction (e.g. and, but, or).

In the words of Ira Gershwin, it ain't necessarily so.

[Geniasis]

You shouldn't start a sentence with a conjunction (e.g. and, but, or).

In the words of Ira Gershwin, it ain't necessarily so.

Conjunction junction, what's your function?

[Dazchan]

Public education is a prison. Anybody that says otherwise is a liar.

I;m not crazy - you are!!!

It clearly is a prison, you cannot leave.

Except for those 18 hours a day when you're not there?

Now whether it has benefits or not is the actual question, personally id say no. The education you receive in the classroom can be obtained at a library for virtually free, and even a better education at that.

Using a library requires both literacy and numeracy skills before you can even begin.

What you pay for with your taxes is the prison infrustructure to cage in all the kids pretty much.

Or an institution that gives students the skills to function in society.

Who is exploiting someone in a position of helplessnes? Maybe it is the people who force the kids to spend the first third of their life in the classroom. I can't even imagine what I could have accomplished if I wasn't rotting in public school all those years.

I can. It's quite easy to imagine "nothing".

I am 20 and haven't had time to accomplish the vast majority of my goals.

Aww... you still have 50 years (on average) to accomplish them.

Although I have managed to save quite a bit of money.

No doubt because you are employing skills you learnt at school.

The government prevents children from being places other than public school, or fulfilling certain education requirements, essentially taking time away from the children.

Um... no. The government doesn't prevent anyone from being places other than public school. There are private schools, homeschooling, etc. Lotsa options.

This time could be spent living their lives, exercising their liberties building their fortunes.

Just like the good old days

[Norstal]

I make jokes at my own expense sometimes.

Riiight.

Besides, no one can really force you to go to school. Truancy is a status offense.

In the United States, the fine for truancy can range from $250 to as much as $5000. In some cities[clarification needed] teenagers found on the streets during school hours are sometimes even handcuffed[citation needed]. About 12,000 students were ticketed for truancy in 2008 in Los Angeles.[6] Many states provide for the appointment of local truancy officers who have the authority to arrest habitually truant youths and bring them to their parents or to the school they are supposed to attend. Many states[clarification needed] also have the power to revoke a students driver's license. It is an office which, where it exists, is often held by a person also a constable or sheriff. However, the position of a full-time truancy officer is generally viewed[weasel words] as being a relic from the 19th century when mandatory school attendance was relatively new. Truancy regulations today are generally enforced by school officials under the context of parental responsibility. New automated calling systems allow the automated notification of parents when a child is not marked present in the computer, and truancy records for many states are available for inspection online.[citation needed]

Wikipedia is a good source, but see those [citation needed]? They're synonyms for "bullshit."

And as I've said before, it's a status offense. Meaning, only people who are minors (or look like minors, humans are not Omnipotent) gets the fine. Even then, parents don't have to enroll their kids in the school. Its up to the parents.

Besides, what are kids going to do during the day, if not being educated?

[Dyakovo]

I make jokes at my own expense sometimes.

Riiight.

Wikipedia is a good source, but see those [citation needed]? They're synonyms for "bullshit."

And as I've said before, it's a status offense. Meaning, only people who are minors (or look like minors, humans are not Omnipotent) gets the fine. Even then, parents don't have to enroll their kids in the school. Its up to the parents.

Besides, what are kids going to do during the day, if not being educated?

Avoiding learning and becoming ancaps?

[Bottle]

Is School Slavery With Benifits?

No.


This has been another edition of Simple Answers To Stupid Questions.

[Norstal]

Avoiding learning and becoming ancaps?

Yep, children having the freedom to work non-stop in a dirty factory is so much better than being forced to learn about arithmetic in a well-lit room. It's what the an-caps would've wanted! *nods*