Beyond "consenting adults"

[Buffett and Colbert]

A fourteen-year-old knows more than Gen? Well blow me the fuck away.

I'm not sure what you said before the edit, but your sarcasm doesn't really phase me
I'm entirely willing to recognize and even occasionally defer to people who are more knowledgable then me on a particular subject, especially if I happen to agree with them most of the time

My point was, that for the age of 14, he knows far more about what he believes then well, any 14 year old I have ever seen, I mean, he has a blog on the subject

At 14 I was obsessed with getting high and playin with myself.

With no disrespect meant towards Mery, I could make a blog about international law, something I'm interested in, but that doesn't mean I'm particularly knowledgeable about the subject. This is especially true in this setting, where we don't really recognise each others' age, just the content of the post.

[Buffett and Colbert]

You don't get an opinion, any more. You opted out.

So you are admitting you have no clue what the difference between facts and opinions are.

That's just your opinion.

[Bendira]

So you are admitting you have no clue what the difference between facts and opinions are.

That's just your opinion.

Questions aren't opinions, sorry I didn't put a ? to make it more clearly a question.

[GeneralHaNor]

I'm not sure what you said before the edit, but your sarcasm doesn't really phase me
I'm entirely willing to recognize and even occasionally defer to people who are more knowledgable then me on a particular subject, especially if I happen to agree with them most of the time

My point was, that for the age of 14, he knows far more about what he believes then well, any 14 year old I have ever seen, I mean, he has a blog on the subject

At 14 I was obsessed with getting high and playin with myself.

With no disrespect meant towards Mery, I could make a blog about international law, something I'm interested in, but that doesn't mean I'm particularly knowledgeable about the subject. This is especially true in this setting, where we don't really recognise each others' age, just the content of the post.

Having read his blog, I can assure you, that it is pretty high quality
It's clear, that despite his detractors, Meryuma has "Done the Research"

I find such concerted effort in pursuit of his beliefs and ideology to be commendable from one so young, this is strengthened by the fact that he does it so well

[Buffett and Colbert]

That's just your opinion.

Questions aren't opinions, sorry I didn't put a ? to make it more clearly a question.

I was trying to make a funny.

[Buffett and Colbert]

Having read his blog, I can assure you, that it is pretty high quality
It's clear, that despite his detractors, Meryuma has "Done the Research"

Also having read his blog, I can tell you it's alright.

I find such concerted effort in pursuit of his beliefs and ideology to be commendable from one so young, this is strengthened by the fact that he does it so well

Which is fine, but it doesn't make him any more right or wrong.

[Grave_n_idle]

So you are admitting you have no clue what the difference between facts and opinions are.

That's just your opinion.

Which is all he has. When presented with actual evidence, Bendira chose to evade.

Which means he has nothing valid to say on this subject.

[Bendira]

Having read his blog, I can assure you, that it is pretty high quality
It's clear, that despite his detractors, Meryuma has "Done the Research"

Also having read his blog, I can tell you it's alright.

I find such concerted effort in pursuit of his beliefs and ideology to be commendable from one so young, this is strengthened by the fact that he does it so well

Which is fine, but it doesn't make him any more right or wrong.

It dosn't make him any more right and wrong, but it shows that the ageism so prevalent in this community is based out of sheer ignorance (not insinuating that you yourself are an ageist).

[Grave_n_idle]

With no disrespect meant towards Mery, I could make a blog about international law, something I'm interested in, but that doesn't mean I'm particularly knowledgeable about the subject. This is especially true in this setting, where we don't really recognise each others' age, just the content of the post.

Having read his blog, I can assure you, that it is pretty high quality
It's clear, that despite his detractors, Meryuma has "Done the Research"

I find such concerted effort in pursuit of his beliefs and ideology to be commendable from one so young, this is strengthened by the fact that he does it so well

I don't care if Manson put decades of research into the Tate murder, you don't commend things just because people put a lot of thinking into it.

[GeneralHaNor]

Having read his blog, I can assure you, that it is pretty high quality
It's clear, that despite his detractors, Meryuma has "Done the Research"

Also having read his blog, I can tell you it's alright.

I find such concerted effort in pursuit of his beliefs and ideology to be commendable from one so young, this is strengthened by the fact that he does it so well

Which is fine, but it doesn't make him any more right or wrong.

But does make the charge of "oh your 14? that explains everything" to be both asinine and insulting.

[Buffett and Colbert]

Also having read his blog, I can tell you it's alright.

Which is fine, but it doesn't make him any more right or wrong.

It dosn't make him any more right and wrong, but it shows that the ageism so prevalent in this community is based out of sheer ignorance (not insinuating that you yourself are an ageist).

Mery is an to an otherwise pretty sound rule. I have no problem being called an ageist, in that I believe children/teenagers are not as capable of making good decisions or being mature as adults on a general basis.

[Meryuma]

Grave, stop ignoring the three different arguments I posed.

[Buffett and Colbert]

Also having read his blog, I can tell you it's alright.

Which is fine, but it doesn't make him any more right or wrong.

But does make the charge of "oh your 14? that explains everything" to be both asinine and insulting.

Not really. The fact that he's fourteen definitely indicates why he feels so strongly in favour of youth rights.

[Meryuma]

But does make the charge of "oh your 14? that explains everything" to be both asinine and insulting.

Not really. The fact that he's fourteen definitely indicates why he feels so strongly in favour of youth rights.

14 + egoist pretty surely = youth liberationist.

[Buffett and Colbert]

Not really. The fact that he's fourteen definitely indicates why he feels so strongly in favour of youth rights.

14 + egoist pretty surely = youth liberationist.

Hmm?

[GeneralHaNor]

Having read his blog, I can assure you, that it is pretty high quality
It's clear, that despite his detractors, Meryuma has "Done the Research"

I find such concerted effort in pursuit of his beliefs and ideology to be commendable from one so young, this is strengthened by the fact that he does it so well

I don't care if Manson put decades of research into the Tate murder, you don't commend things just because people put a lot of thinking into it.

I wouldn't care what mason had to say because I don't respect anything he's done

but ask me to chose between say you, and meryuma, on the topic of freedom, liberty, individualism, anarchy, and all the things I find important.
Well I'm choosing him, He's done his research.

[Meryuma]

I am an egoist, I do things out of self-interest, and I'm 14. You can guess my position on youth issues.

[Trotskylvania]

It's in response to "Capitalismus sine modo, via ad prosperitatem" in the sigs of ancaps. That (in theory) says "free-market capitalism, path to prosperity". Mine says "free-market socialism, path to prosperity".

Well, if it's any consolation, theirs is dog latin too.

Try "Forum liberum et socialismus est via fortunae."

The best I can come up with so far. Literally, "a free market and socialism is the way of good fortune"

[Grave_n_idle]

I don't care if Manson put decades of research into the Tate murder, you don't commend things just because people put a lot of thinking into it.

I wouldn't care what mason had to say because I don't respect anything he's done

but ask me to chose between say you, and meryuma, on the topic of freedom, liberty, individualism, anarchy, and all the things I find important.
Well I'm choosing him, He's done his research.

Choose away. That's your prerogative.

I'm not commenting on Meryuma's research, blog, or opinions on anarchy or whatnot - only this 'it's okay to fuck kids' agenda.

If you want to agree it's okay to fuck kids, that's your right. Unless you actually act on it.

[Buffett and Colbert]

I don't care if Manson put decades of research into the Tate murder, you don't commend things just because people put a lot of thinking into it.

I wouldn't care what mason had to say because I don't respect anything he's done

but ask me to chose between say you, and meryuma, on the topic of freedom, liberty, individualism, anarchy, and all the things I find important.
Well I'm choosing him, He's done his research.

No, he's done research that has led him to conclusions you agree with.

[Grave_n_idle]

Grave, stop ignoring the three different arguments I posed.

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be ignoring. Link it, or tell me what I missed.

[Buffett and Colbert]

I am an egoist, I do things out of self-interest, and I'm 14. You can guess my position on youth issues.

So you agree that ageism isn't entirely invalid?

[Meryuma]

Grave, stop ignoring the three different arguments I posed.

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be ignoring. Link it, or tell me what I missed.

Here you go:

1.I didn't say the papers themselves commit a fallacy. Reread my post.
2. How many of the papers about child sex abuse are relevant to fully consensual sex? How does one get from "teenagers aren't as mature" to "teenagers can't consent"? How does the one about "understanding brain development in young children" saying that most brain development in several areas is between birth and age twelve support TCT's conclusions?
3. Quitting a debate based on an ad hominem. Skillful.

I am an egoist, I do things out of self-interest, and I'm 14. You can guess my position on youth issues.

So you agree that ageism isn't entirely invalid?

No, I just acknowledge and accept the role of self-interest in shaping my beliefs.

[Buffett and Colbert]

So you agree that ageism isn't entirely invalid?

No, I just acknowledge and accept the role of self-interest in shaping my beliefs.

Then what's wrong with saying, "Oh, it's a fourteen year old, no wonder?"

[Grave_n_idle]

2. How many of the papers about child sex abuse are relevant to fully consensual sex? How does one get from "teenagers aren't as mature" to "teenagers can't consent"? How does the one about "understanding brain development in young children" saying that most brain development in several areas is between birth and age twelve support TCT's conclusions?

This seems to be the only part that might be worthy of a response, but it looks like all the answers are self-evident.

If kids can't consent, sex abuse is entirely relevant.

If teenagers aren't mature, they can't consent.

The last sentence, I'm not sure what you're even trying to say... the parts of the brain that deal with the ability to apply repercussions to actions don't mature until the 20's, so 'kids' certainly can't give 'informed' consent, because they can';t fully understand the implications of their choices.