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Postby Meryuma » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:59 am

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Jalanat wrote:Georgian, seriously so many consonant clusters, how the hell are you ever supposed to normally pronounce žblnknutie?

hebrew has no vowels at all...


:palm: It doesn't usually write the vowels, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
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Postby Ayreonia » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:00 pm

The Araucania wrote:in europe the strangest mainstream language is finnish

Yes. I'm part Finn, and Finnish is weird even to me.
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Postby Jagalonia » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:01 pm

Maltropia wrote:English. Seriously; it's a mishmash of everything else.

They even stole Smithereens from Irish "smidiríní." How uninspired!


Both words derived from Latin...Hmmmm...
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Postby Breitkreuzonia » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:02 pm

the african click languages
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Postby NewHyperborea (Ancient) » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:06 pm

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NewHyperborea wrote:Српски је онако ,није баш да је чудан али ако га не 3наш тешко се снађеш


Very nice, I'm sure. So what exactly does "Srpski ye onako, niye basch da ye chudan ali ako ga ne znasch teschko se cnadjesch" mean? And shouldn't that "3" be a "з", or is it a proper noun?

It means ,serbian is not strange but if you dont know it(or cyrillic) it can be confusing.

and yes that 3 should be a letter z in cyrillic but it seems my keeyboard is having some problems so i improvised

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Postby Maltropia » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:06 pm

Jagalonia wrote:
Maltropia wrote:English. Seriously; it's a mishmash of everything else.

They even stole Smithereens from Irish "smidiríní." How uninspired!


Both words derived from Latin...Hmmmm...
Derivations are at least better than open theft.
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Postby Howling Spears » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:10 pm

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In shock i have to agree, im English myself, but sometimes i get soo confused.... :palm:

In an combination of scotish and irish, with a hint of London cockney: Come laddies, time to go down the apples and pairs to feel us out some Fiddlesticks! :shock:
I don't see what of that was Irish.


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Postby Esternial » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:10 pm

Xhosa seems rather peculiar...

Xhosa is spoken by approximately 7.9 million people, 18% of the South African population. Like most Bantu languages, Xhosa is a tonal language, that is, the same sequence of consonants and vowels can have different meanings when said with a rising or falling or high or low intonation. One of the most distinctive features of the language is the prominence of click consonants; the word "Xhosa", the name of the language itself, begins with a click.

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Postby Jagalonia » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:12 pm

Maltropia wrote:
Jagalonia wrote:
Both words derived from Latin...Hmmmm...
Derivations are at least better than open theft.

If you'll be kind enough to search around, you'll notice that most languages in the westtern world derive from Latin...Mainly because Rome had it's cock all over Europe.
Tokyoni wrote:Hitler's mustache looks weird. Adam Smith was a drunken fatass. There, I've just pwned fascism and capitalism by such "logic".
Edlichbury wrote:OOC: If Knootoss can claim alcohol is a biological weapon, I can claim sentient Milk-People.
Senestrum wrote:Russians took the maximum allowable missile performances from the ABM treaty as design goals.
lolz ensued
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Computer Land wrote:I don't want someone hacking my fridge :meh:

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sysout("I'm melting! I'm meeeeelting! Oh what a world, what world!");
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Postby Luna Amore » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:13 pm

Afrikaans strikes me as strange. It just sounds so damn unpleasant.

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Postby Maltropia » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:19 pm

Jagalonia wrote:
Maltropia wrote:Derivations are at least better than open theft.

If you'll be kind enough to search around, you'll notice that most languages in the westtern world derive from Latin...Mainly because Rome had it's cock all over Europe.
I study Latin, so I know enough about the Romance languages. No need to think I don't.
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Postby Novograd IV » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:20 pm

Novan (2nd Family Text), because it's a half created Conlang with 40 characters, 30 of which actually have assigned sounds. It does, however, look like I can make it into something
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Postby Cyborg Holland » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:21 pm

I think the Wierdest language is Basque (Andorra & Pyrennees) It has no roots in any other language and their are only about 100 speakers who aren't natives

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Postby Sun Aut Ex » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:25 pm

Meryuma wrote:If it is, the clicks definitely aren't. If they were primordial, they'd probably be a lot more common instead of being nearly exclusive to Africa.


Actually, languages that are more complex are generally older.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:44 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:I'm disappointed. So far, I regret to say, most the choices in this thread (at least when I started writing this post) have been fairly uninspired - largely restricted to mainstream European and Asian languages; though I'll give Angleter mod cookies for Manchu (Islamic Hazarastan only gets half a mod cookie, for failing to recognise that there are at least nine distinct living Sami languages, even if only two of them have over 1000 speakers, and only one has over 10,000 speakers).

But one of the strangest languages has to be Hixkaryana. Spoken by some 500 indigenous Brazilians deep in the Amazon rainforest, it was the first Object-Verb-Subject (OVS) language ever described. In other words, where English speakers say "the jaguar ate the man", Hixkaryana has to take the word order "the man ate the jaguar" (or rather "toto yonoye kamara" - male person eat [past tense] jaguar); but with the same meaning as in English.

OVS is the rarest of possible sentence word orders. There are other languages which occasionally permit OVS (though even highly inflected languages with complex case systems that can hypothetically permit any word order often prefer a more common specific order - see Russian), but the number which require OVS is vanishingly small, limited to three or four indigenous languages of the Americas, none of which have over 5000 speakers.


I think I recall you mentioning Hixkaryana not too long ago, on another thread about languages too. For me, one of the strangest is Piraha, believed to be the only surviving example of the Mura (Muran) language family. Funny enough, Piraha is also spoken by indigenous people in Brazil, along the Maici River.
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Postby Anogen Dys » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:50 pm

Howling Spears wrote:
Bitchkitten wrote:Agreed. And it borrows from every language it's ever come in contact with. Someone sais something along the line of "Some languages borow from other languages. English follows them down the alley, mugs them and rifles through their pockets." Oscar Wilde, maybe?



In shock i have to agree, im English myself, but sometimes i get soo confused.... :palm:

In an combination of scotish and irish, with a hint of London cockney: Come laddies, time to go down the apples and pairs to feel us out some Fiddlesticks! :shock:

If you think English is a hard language, then you ain't seen nothing.

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Postby Angleter » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:59 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:I'm disappointed. So far, I regret to say, most the choices in this thread (at least when I started writing this post) have been fairly uninspired - largely restricted to mainstream European and Asian languages; though I'll give Angleter mod cookies for Manchu (Islamic Hazarastan only gets half a mod cookie, for failing to recognise that there are at least nine distinct living Sami languages, even if only two of them have over 1000 speakers, and only one has over 10,000 speakers).

But one of the strangest languages has to be Hixkaryana. Spoken by some 500 indigenous Brazilians deep in the Amazon rainforest, it was the first Object-Verb-Subject (OVS) language ever described. In other words, where English speakers say "the jaguar ate the man", Hixkaryana has to take the word order "the man ate the jaguar" (or rather "toto yonoye kamara" - male person eat [past tense] jaguar); but with the same meaning as in English.

OVS is the rarest of possible sentence word orders. There are other languages which occasionally permit OVS (though even highly inflected languages with complex case systems that can hypothetically permit any word order often prefer a more common specific order - see Russian), but the number which require OVS is vanishingly small, limited to three or four indigenous languages of the Americas, none of which have over 5000 speakers.


I think I recall you mentioning Hixkaryana not too long ago, on another thread about languages too. For me, one of the strangest is Piraha, believed to be the only surviving example of the Mura (Muran) language family. Funny enough, Piraha is also spoken by indigenous people in Brazil, along the Maici River.


Hoí+Hói=Hoí?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:01 pm

Angleter wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I think I recall you mentioning Hixkaryana not too long ago, on another thread about languages too. For me, one of the strangest is Piraha, believed to be the only surviving example of the Mura (Muran) language family. Funny enough, Piraha is also spoken by indigenous people in Brazil, along the Maici River.


Hoi+Hoi=Hoi?


Pretty much. It is very simple phonologically too.
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Postby Meryuma » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:03 pm

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Meryuma wrote:If it is, the clicks definitely aren't. If they were primordial, they'd probably be a lot more common instead of being nearly exclusive to Africa.


Actually, languages that are more complex are generally older.


I know that, I study linguistics as a hobby. I don't see how that's relevant, seeing as clicks aren't "complex" in any real way.
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Postby Antilon » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:49 pm

Latin. Noun conjugation? How strange....

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Postby Johz » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:59 pm

Polish. Crazy stuff there.

Although, obviously, English. But that's just 'cos I am English...
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Postby UCUMAY » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:04 pm

Antilon wrote:Latin. Noun conjugation? How strange....

You have a point Latin is a lil strange.
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The Truth and Light wrote:I'd have to say Russian. It's words are really long and it sounds very alien to my ears. Behind that is Mandarin, because it is very off base comparted to European languages.


Russian, at least, is an Indoeuropean language... I'd guess it would sound more familiar to an Indoeuropean-speaker than Chinese. Weird.

Anyway, of those I've heard, Basque.
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Postby Astralsideria » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:06 pm

Antilon wrote:Latin. Noun conjugation? How strange....


Declension is used in many other languages, such as German, Romanian, Hungarian. Indeed, I would say it could be argued that the difference between "I", "me", and "my" are a vestigial form of English declension, and the same with French "je"/"moi"/"mon/ma/mes", and their cognates in many languages. We are more dependent on word order, but it's still there. Just my view on it; other "gentlemen philologists", or whatever hobby-studiers of language like to call themselves, feel free to shoot me down in flames :)
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:06 pm

Risottia wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:I'd have to say Russian. It's words are really long and it sounds very alien to my ears. Behind that is Mandarin, because it is very off base comparted to European languages.


Russian, at least, is an Indoeuropean language... I'd guess it would sound more familiar to an Indoeuropean-speaker than Chinese. Weird.

Anyway, of those I've heard, Basque.


That's an odd one too, euskera.

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