by The Parkus Empire » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:35 am
by Xomic » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:37 am
by Chemaki » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:39 am
The Parkus Empire wrote:Speaking hypothetically, what if all recognized governments (as in, recognized by the UN) collapsed overnight? What do you think would be the immediate effects? What about twenty years down the road? How would the disappearance of government-backed currencies affect corporations and the wealthy? Without government, would killing be reduced due to the lack of drug laws and massive, organized war, or would it increase do to an obviously under-equipped police force?
by Sucrati » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:40 am
George Washington wrote:"If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
by Great Nepal » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:48 am
by The Parkus Empire » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:51 am
by Great Nepal » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:53 am
by The Parkus Empire » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:54 am
Great Nepal wrote:Immediate effect?
Military or a person living down the road with large friends will take over.
Effect in 20 years?
Same thing as there is today: just with different leaders, form of government, may be names etc. Most likely military dictatorship through out the world.
by Sucrati » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:56 am
George Washington wrote:"If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
by Turmoilandia » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:18 am
by The Parkus Empire » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:22 am
Turmoilandia wrote:as did the "Wild" West. Neither the Iceland of the Sagas or the "Wild" West were as wild as the myths say.
by Lackadaisical2 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:22 am
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Proud member of the Vile Right-Wing Noodle Combat Division of the Imperialist Anti-Socialist Economic War Army Ground Force reporting in.
by Big Jim P » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:40 am
by Lackadaisical2 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:43 am
Big Jim P wrote:It would merely level the playing field for the next set of would be world conquerors. The anarchists would shit themselves, first in ecstasy at the end of government, then in terror as new governments were formed.
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Proud member of the Vile Right-Wing Noodle Combat Division of the Imperialist Anti-Socialist Economic War Army Ground Force reporting in.
by The Parkus Empire » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:48 am
Big Jim P wrote:It would merely level the playing field for the next set of would be world conquerors. The anarchists would shit themselves, first in ecstasy at the end of government, then in terror as new governments were formed.
by Big Jim P » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:56 am
The Parkus Empire wrote:Big Jim P wrote:It would merely level the playing field for the next set of would be world conquerors. The anarchists would shit themselves, first in ecstasy at the end of government, then in terror as new governments were formed.
It would probably take a fucking long time before any government could control things on the level current ones do, though. Possibly over a hundred years.
by Hypparchia » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:57 am
by The Parkus Empire » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:57 am
Big Jim P wrote:True, it might take a hundred years, it might take a thousand, but new governments are inevitable.
by The Parkus Empire » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:58 am
Hypparchia wrote:Governments usually have a set of subordinate power structures - police, military, intelligence services.
"Toppling a government" usually means removing the power source that runs the entire state, which leaves these power structures at will to do whatever they want - in case a new and strong leadership does not appear soon enough. That's what has basically happened in almost every "democratic revolution". Eastern Europe after 1989 and Myanmar are quite the examples.
Should all world governments fall overnight, it won't be long enough before they get replaced by military dictatorships or oligarchies run by former cops and intelligence agents.
by Hypparchia » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:03 am
The Parkus Empire wrote:Hypparchia wrote:Governments usually have a set of subordinate power structures - police, military, intelligence services.
"Toppling a government" usually means removing the power source that runs the entire state, which leaves these power structures at will to do whatever they want - in case a new and strong leadership does not appear soon enough. That's what has basically happened in almost every "democratic revolution". Eastern Europe after 1989 and Myanmar are quite the examples.
Should all world governments fall overnight, it won't be long enough before they get replaced by military dictatorships or oligarchies run by former cops and intelligence agents.
You forget how much money those subordinate structures require to run.
by The Parkus Empire » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:05 am
by The Parkus Empire » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:09 am
by Hypparchia » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:17 am
The Parkus Empire wrote:Hypparchia wrote:
Finance that was formerly under government control ?
Finance that is nearly impossible without government-backed currencies, regardless of whose government is backing it. Even without tax funding, most militaries could just rob banks or something, but without that it is extremely difficult to keep the required ammunition and fuel supplies up or to communicate with other units or have proper integration of expertise, ect. I don't think you quite realize the implications of the abolishment of government-backed currencies.
by Mr Bananagrabber » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:22 am
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