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Postby Saurisisia » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:05 pm

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Saurisisia wrote:Pretty sure they're WAY nicer than Westboro Baptists. :/


EVERYONE is way nicer than Westboro Baptist.

True! :P
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>implying that death isn't a problem

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Postby The Corparation » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:05 pm

I don't I find there beliefs regarding the plates Smith never showed to anyone, and when asked to retranslate something said god wouldn't let him translate it again. Major holes. Not that other religions don't have them, ours just aren't as recent or blatantly obvious. That said it doesn't matter what they believe as they're generally decent folks. I am of course referring to the more mainstream Mormonism and not to those creepy polygamist cultists.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:05 pm

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I think he means that he finds it laughable that Yahweh talked to Joseph Smith. I don't think God talked directly to Jesus, but I could be wrong on that.


Well, God was Jesus, so...

And he talked to himself according to the Bible.
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Postby Saurisisia » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:06 pm

I think I know why most people hate Mormons these days, because they like showing up at your door and telling you about their religion. Kinda like the door-to-door salesmen and the telemarketers of the religious world.
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Postby Harata » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:08 pm

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Well, God was Jesus, so...


So if Jesus talked to himself, he'd be talking to Yahweh? :p


Well, it's part of the Trinity belief system.
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Postby The Corparation » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:08 pm

Saurisisia wrote:I think I know why most people hate Mormons these days, because they like showing up at your door and telling you about their religion. Kinda like the door-to-door salesmen and the telemarketers of the religious world.

I feel bad for them, mostly cause they're usually my age and their parents make them go door to door preaching to people who don't want to be preached to, rather then hanging out with there friends.
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Postby Wilgrove » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:08 pm

Saurisisia wrote:I think I know why most people hate Mormons these days, because they like showing up at your door and telling you about their religion. Kinda like the door-to-door salesmen and the telemarketers of the religious world.


So? Other Christian Denomination televise their sermon on TV. Hel some of them have fundraiser for their little programming. I'm just glad the TV network airs it in the middle of the night.

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Postby Saurisisia » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:09 pm

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Saurisisia wrote:I think I know why most people hate Mormons these days, because they like showing up at your door and telling you about their religion. Kinda like the door-to-door salesmen and the telemarketers of the religious world.

I feel bad for them, mostly cause they're usually my age and their parents make them go door to door preaching to people who don't want to be preached to, rather then hanging out with there friends.

Yeah, must suck, wouldn't it?
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Postby Underium » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:10 pm

I dont Hate mormons no.

However I do strongly dislike a lot of mormon practices.

1: when you put in your ancestors int heir church to find them, the next month they will be babtised into the mormon church, even if they are dead. thats why its the fastest growing religion in the world.

2: They do not believe in eqaulity for all people, of course thats why i hate almost every religion.

3: They invade the utah state government!!! it specifically says for a complete separation of government and religion.

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Postby Wilgrove » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:11 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Saurisisia wrote:I think I know why most people hate Mormons these days, because they like showing up at your door and telling you about their religion. Kinda like the door-to-door salesmen and the telemarketers of the religious world.

I feel bad for them, mostly cause they're usually my age and their parents make them go door to door preaching to people who don't want to be preached to, rather then hanging out with there friends.


MOST churches like to use young children and old people when trying to convert the unbelievers, which I think is a dirty underhand trick. I mean how can I, in good conscious, rip a child or an elderly person a new one?

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Postby Panzerjaeger » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:11 pm

Underium wrote:I dont Hate mormons no.

However I do strongly dislike a lot of mormon practices.

1: when you put in your ancestors int heir church to find them, the next month they will be babtised into the mormon church, even if they are dead. thats why its the fastest growing religion in the world.

2: They do not believe in eqaulity for all people, of course thats why i hate almost every religion.

3: They invade the utah state government!!! it specifically says for a complete separation of government and religion.

Utah has always been a borderline Theocracy it isn't an invasion when it is a domestic view. :?
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Postby The Corparation » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:12 pm

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The Corparation wrote:I feel bad for them, mostly cause they're usually my age and their parents make them go door to door preaching to people who don't want to be preached to, rather then hanging out with there friends.


MOST churches like to use young children and old people when trying to convert the unbelievers, which I think is a dirty underhand trick. I mean how can I, in good conscious, rip a child or an elderly person a new one?

Its not their fault though. Problem is you can't be nice to them or the word spreads and such door knocker will come to your house in swarms.
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Postby Wilgrove » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:12 pm

Underium wrote:I dont Hate mormons no.

However I do strongly dislike a lot of mormon practices.

1: when you put in your ancestors int heir church to find them, the next month they will be babtised into the mormon church, even if they are dead. thats why its the fastest growing religion in the world.

2: They do not believe in eqaulity for all people, of course thats why i hate almost every religion.

3: They invade the utah state government!!! it specifically says for a complete separation of government and religion.


Ehhh actually on that last one, unless the Utah government start endorsing the Mormon faith, they are not violating the First Amendment. Politicians can be whatever religion they want to be, they just can't have the government officially endorse a religion. Also a source on #1 please.

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Postby Lacadaemon » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:13 pm

Gauthier wrote:And I'm sure Jews are thrilled with the Mormons posthumously converting Holocaust victims too.


I sure as hell am.
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Postby Underium » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:13 pm

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Underium wrote:I dont Hate mormons no.

However I do strongly dislike a lot of mormon practices.

1: when you put in your ancestors int heir church to find them, the next month they will be babtised into the mormon church, even if they are dead. thats why its the fastest growing religion in the world.

2: They do not believe in eqaulity for all people, of course thats why i hate almost every religion.

3: They invade the utah state government!!! it specifically says for a complete separation of government and religion.

Utah has always been a borderline Theocracy it isn't an invasion when it is a domestic view. :?

Your right its not a invasion if they were founded on these principles. Every year they force, and i mean legally force stores to open later and close earlier on sundays, when asked why they cant explain with anything other then religion.

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Postby Wilgrove » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:14 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
MOST churches like to use young children and old people when trying to convert the unbelievers, which I think is a dirty underhand trick. I mean how can I, in good conscious, rip a child or an elderly person a new one?

Its not their fault though. Problem is you can't be nice to them or the word spreads and such door knocker will come to your house in swarms.


Eh I can't be mean to children or old people. Children don't know any better and old people are probably going senile anyways, so it's not like you can tear down their faith until they run away crying. I usually just ignore them or tell them I'm not interested.

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Postby Mosasauria » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:15 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
The Corparation wrote:I feel bad for them, mostly cause they're usually my age and their parents make them go door to door preaching to people who don't want to be preached to, rather then hanging out with there friends.


MOST churches like to use young children and old people when trying to convert the unbelievers, which I think is a dirty underhand trick. I mean how can I, in good conscious, rip a child or an elderly person a new one?

It is a dirty trick, ingenious though.
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Postby Wilgrove » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:16 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
MOST churches like to use young children and old people when trying to convert the unbelievers, which I think is a dirty underhand trick. I mean how can I, in good conscious, rip a child or an elderly person a new one?

It is a dirty trick, ingenious though.


Very true. I'm just glad they haven't been offering plates of brownies yet. Mmmmmm brownies.

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Postby Underium » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:17 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Underium wrote:I dont Hate mormons no.

However I do strongly dislike a lot of mormon practices.

1: when you put in your ancestors int heir church to find them, the next month they will be babtised into the mormon church, even if they are dead. thats why its the fastest growing religion in the world.

2: They do not believe in eqaulity for all people, of course thats why i hate almost every religion.

3: They invade the utah state government!!! it specifically says for a complete separation of government and religion.


Ehhh actually on that last one, unless the Utah government start endorsing the Mormon faith, they are not violating the First Amendment. Politicians can be whatever religion they want to be, they just can't have the government officially endorse a religion. Also a source on #1 please.

They are legally deciding store hours on sundays or making them pay a large fine. And number 1 My eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby Mosasauria » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:17 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:It is a dirty trick, ingenious though.


Very true. I'm just glad they haven't been offering plates of brownies yet. Mmmmmm brownies.

That's genius! That's how to convert people!
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Postby Wilgrove » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:18 pm

Underium wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
Ehhh actually on that last one, unless the Utah government start endorsing the Mormon faith, they are not violating the First Amendment. Politicians can be whatever religion they want to be, they just can't have the government officially endorse a religion. Also a source on #1 please.

They are legally deciding store hours on sundays or making them pay a large fine. And number 1 My eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That's not an endorsement of religion though.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Also, your eyes is not good enough.

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Postby Panzerjaeger » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:18 pm

Underium wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:Utah has always been a borderline Theocracy it isn't an invasion when it is a domestic view. :?

Your right its not a invasion if they were founded on these principles. Every year they force, and i mean legally force stores to open later and close earlier on sundays, when asked why they cant explain with anything other then religion.

Eh no. I don't know where you are getting that but it isn't true. Stores stay open all hours on Sundays even in Southern Utah. You might be confusing it with State Liquor Stores.
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Postby Wilgrove » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:20 pm

Mushet wrote:Because they don't know how magnets work, I keep on asking them they never answer, I tell them I own a horse and they never act impressed, they just leave


I don't get the whole "Own a Horse" meme, can someone explain it?

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