Why do people hate Mormons?

[Prussia LOL]

They don't know how magnets work.

Aha. No, really. I feel like it's because they knock at your front door. Perhaps people feel it is true intrusive.

[Black Storefront]

because they're insane people that followed a filthy pervert and their entire religion is about fucking small girls so that you will become god in a universe.

[Troglodites of Yore]

People hate mormons? It seems to me that most people don't give a shit about mormons in the first place.

[The Corparation]

because they're insane people that followed a filthy pervert and their entire religion is about fucking small girls so that you will become god in a universe.

Go back one page and look at DLN's post. Pretty much sums it up.

[Black Storefront]

Atheist here.
Because they're annoying as hell, on all levels.

Examples based on people I've met:

Christians in general: Yeah I went to church this weekend, it was meh, but there was this new chick there, and man, she was so fine. But anyways, let's hurry up and smoke this dub.

Mormons: I went to the temple and it was the greatest experience of the week and my life and I felt the holy lords spirit flowing through me and hey you should come to the temple with me cause we teach good values and stuff and I used to masturbate to that's so raven but through the spirit of the lord I've stopped my urges and you should come to the temple with me and black people are the descendants of people who sided with Satan and Indians are descended from the people that killed the Israelites that came to America and blah blah gold plates blah blah blah blah polygamy blah blah blah blargity blah.

you forgot blah blah blah sex with minors blah blah magic underpants blah blah blah blah

[Hegstoria]

because they're insane people that followed a filthy pervert and their entire religion is about fucking small girls so that you will become god in a universe.

I don't get all the hate for Mormons nowadays. It's an antiquated hate from the 19th century, it really has no place in a modern setting. Just look at DLN, a well respected member of the NS community (not to mention a mod) and she's a Mormon.

Also, DLN, do you actively call yourselves Mormons or do you prefer to be called the Church of Latter Day Saints? Just curious.

[The Corparation]

Atheist here.
Because they're annoying as hell, on all levels.

Examples based on people I've met:

Christians in general: Yeah I went to church this weekend, it was meh, but there was this new chick there, and man, she was so fine. But anyways, let's hurry up and smoke this dub.

Mormons: I went to the temple and it was the greatest experience of the week and my life and I felt the holy lords spirit flowing through me and hey you should come to the temple with me cause we teach good values and stuff and I used to masturbate to that's so raven but through the spirit of the lord I've stopped my urges and you should come to the temple with me and black people are the descendants of people who sided with Satan and Indians are descended from the people that killed the Israelites that came to America and blah blah gold plates blah blah blah blah polygamy blah blah blah blargity blah.

you forgot blah blah blah sex with minors blah blah magic underpants blah blah blah blah

So you're going to judge an entire religion on a few crazy pervert cults. Right by your logic all Baptist are out protesting funerals cause we ain't actively hunting down homosexuals.

[Hegstoria]

you forgot blah blah blah sex with minors blah blah magic underpants blah blah blah blah

So you're going to judge an entire religion on a few crazy pervert cults. Right by your logic all Baptist are out protesting funerals cause we ain't actively hunting down homosexuals.

Baptist church is cool, your service actually looks fun. I'd say it's high time Papa Benedict made some reforms in the church to make it a bit less boring, or speed it up at the very least.

[Voltronica]

Because Mormons aren't people they're aliens from another planet. Silly posters...

[The Corparation]

So you're going to judge an entire religion on a few crazy pervert cults. Right by your logic all Baptist are out protesting funerals cause we ain't actively hunting down homosexuals.

Baptist church is cool, your service actually looks fun. I'd say it's high time Papa Benedict made some reforms in the church to make it a bit less boring, or speed it up at the very least.

I'm not Baptist, I'm catholic. But all baptists are ebil gay haters liek WBC, like all Mormons are creepy perverts like those creepy pedophile polygamist cults.

[Black Storefront]

Because Mormons aren't people they're aliens from another planet. Silly posters...

that's right how could we all forget their connections to the moon nazis and time gate.

[The Corparation]

Because Mormons aren't people they're aliens from another planet. Silly posters...

that's right how could we all forget their connections to the moon nazis and time gate.

In other news Timegate guy was back. Arguing with people that the manned mars landings never happened and where faked. He argued that they had been faked. We argued they hadn't been faked, and that furthermore they was never a landing or program in the first place to base the conspiracy from. My conclusion. He is Troll-gate

[Black Storefront]

that's right how could we all forget their connections to the moon nazis and time gate.

In other news Timegate guy was back. Arguing with people that the manned mars landings never happened and where faked. He argued that they had been faked. We argued they hadn't been faked, and that furthermore they was never a landing or program in the first place to base the conspiracy from. My conclusion. He is Troll-gate

oh troll-gate

[Panzerjaeger]

Whaaa DLN is a Mormon as well? That explains all her hate of me.

[Cannot think of a name]

Mostly it's the whole coming to your door thing. Other than that, their beliefs aren't really any nuttier than the rest (I mean, c'mon, the Catholics practice ritual cannibalism. I can't help but think if Jesus was real he'd be screaming, "Haven't you fuckers ever heard of metaphors?")

[Jagalonia]

Mostly it's the whole coming to your door thing. Other than that, their beliefs aren't really any nuttier than the rest (I mean, c'mon, the Catholics practice ritual cannibalism. I can't help but think if Jesus was real he'd be screaming, "Haven't you fuckers ever heard of metaphors?")

I have the same problem with jemimas witnesses.....

[Panzerjaeger]

Mostly it's the whole coming to your door thing. Other than that, their beliefs aren't really any nuttier than the rest (I mean, c'mon, the Catholics practice ritual cannibalism. I can't help but think if Jesus was real he'd be screaming, "Haven't you fuckers ever heard of metaphors?")

I have the same problem with jemimas witnesses.....

JWs are hilarious they have Afro-Jesus Pamphlets. I didn't know Jesus was a 6'5" Harlem Globetrotter.

[Jagalonia]

I have the same problem with jemimas witnesses.....

JWs are hilarious they have Afro-Jesus Pamphlets. I didn't know Jesus was a 6'5" Harlem Globetrotter.

Clearly you didn't see it.
I won't explain it to you

[Panzerjaeger]

JWs are hilarious they have Afro-Jesus Pamphlets. I didn't know Jesus was a 6'5" Harlem Globetrotter.

Clearly you didn't see it.
I won't explain it to you

I did but I really wanted to discuss the Jehovah Witnesses Kareem Abdul Jabaar Jesus Pamphlets.

[Jagalonia]

Clearly you didn't see it.
I won't explain it to you

I did but I really wanted to discuss the Jehovah Witnesses Kareem Abdul Jabaar Jesus Pamphlets.

You're lucky I can't find the clip I was looking for xD

[Phillippanoa]

Ok. Mormons do not hate gays. Individuals may very well, but that is not or should not be representative of the church as a whole. I’ve never heard that taught or supported. Plenty of Christian sects don’t believe that the gay lifestyle/choice/tendency/preference is a ‘moral’ path, this isn’t anything out of the ordinary that way. Which doesn’t mean I’ve always agreed with some of the choices made that way.

I don’t find our religion sexist either – and I’m both a woman, and a rather independent one at that who isn’t easily lead around by the nose.

No one has been posthumously converting Jewish victims of the holocaust either (or anyone else), in spite of claims to the contrary. Baptisms for the dead are not an ‘automatic conversion’, it is a service offered to those who didn’t have a chance to make the choice in this life. Whether or not they accept the work done for them on the other side is anyone’s guess – it’s our belief they have that choice. Yes, we believe in an afterlife. No, you don't have to agree with it. Either way, no harm done - we don't have the ability to 'force' belief or membership on anyone. The rites are offered by proxy in accordance with our belief that everyone should have the opportunity to choose. It's as simple as that.

We don’t hate other religions for what they do or don’t think of us – at least we sure aren’t supposed to. We're supposed to be accepting of folks, we're supposed to love our neighbors (platonically you sickos), not berate, condemn, hate, or otherwise be asses to folks who don't believe the same way we do.

We don’t preach ‘get me converts, or else’. When you have a good thing, it’s natural enough to want to share it with others who might benefit from it. Freedom of choice – you certainly don’t have to listen.

Being Christian is a matter of having a belief in Christ as savior, which we have and maintain – so like it or not, Mormons are not ‘pretenders’ in that regard. As others have pointed out, we believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost - same as a number of other Christian sects.

Claiming that the Mormon church is ‘just as bad as Scientology’ is both irresponsible and baseless.

I have absolutely –no- idea what you’re on about with the fundie polygamist groups ‘falling under the Mormon umbrella’ – because they are not a part of our religion, and we do not condone them, or claim them.

Nor do I get this ‘weird combines’ and the ‘Starlight and Moonbeam’ names claim. Never heard of anything like that, no idea what you’re on about with it.

Big Love is a tv show which is not to be confused with reality. It's in it for the ratings, not for showing folks 'how it is'.

No one ‘makes’ missionaries go out – it’s supposed to be a choice, even if it’s encouraged as a service to God. My husband didn't go on one. He's not ostracized or otherwise shunned on account.

We do not discourage equality in any way I’ve ever been taught. Quite the opposite.

Invading the government? So … one can’t be involved in government if one has a religion now? Really. Having lived in Utah as well, I can guarantee you the Mormon church does not run everything. There are loads of non-Mormons who are very vocal and active in politics, and if things were run as a one-religion theocracy, there would be hell to pay.

We don’t use little kids to spread religion. 18 or older for missionaries. Sorry to burst the illusion.

I now live out in the Midwest, and I’ve found store hours in many cases to be more restrictive here than they were in Utah. Go fig.

I don’t believe you’re kicked out of the church just for being gay, no. It takes a lot to be excommunicated.

If we were ‘banned’ or made to leave over using our freedom of choice (something that is huge in our religion) music, I’d have been kicked out years ago. Same with the restrictions on things like alcohol, smoking, the caffeine thing, what have you. Again ... these are guidelines set down to follow for a healthier happier life. No one forces you to stick to them strictly.

I can’t speak for the claims of suicide, because I’m not familiar with all the particulars. Good morals are strongly encouraged – which basically means no messing around with sex and the like regardless of gender or preferences. I can see how kids, who already are under a lot of pressure, could end up feeling pretty alone on account. Then again, there’s kids all the time, like it or not, who end up committing suicide over various factors. It’s a rough time, and without the right support … it’s a sad thing regardless of the causes.

I don’t get the ‘abusive’ claims either. No one forces me to go, forces me to agree with everything, forces me into any particular role, gender or otherwise, or forces me into anything I don’t want to do in fact. So claiming my religion is a threat to your human rights, given it can’t force you into anything any more than it can force me, as a member, leaves me a bit perplexed as to your reasoning. While individuals in any organization can be capable of a number of terrible things - the sex scandals, abuse, etc, they are in no way indicative of what the religion as a whole supports or believes. These sorts of things are disgusting, and a breach of trust that should never be tolerated. Regardless of who's responsible.

And … wait, what on the polygamy on the other side? Polygamy is hell not a central key element of mainstream Mormon theology, and I have no idea what you’ve been smoking to believe that. As people so often say on NSG - source? Preferably an official one, not one of these anti-Mormon sites that are clearly biased, nor Wikipedia which is ... well, not reliable.

Old west and killing folk? Would that be after the extermination order was laid out against them here in the Midwest and they were forced to flee and protect themselves? Not that all actions historically can be supported that way, I realize. People are people, and sometimes people suck - Mormon or otherwise.

The US government was racist and supported segregation and all that. But when a religion makes the correct choice to get with the program and be the inclusive accepting group they’re supposed to be, it’s a ‘racket’? *grins* That’s ok. We won’t get into how accepted social norms have always had a hand in how groups, religious or otherwise, have made choices.

I do find it interesting that people are free to go around saying that anyone who believes in religion is stupid, delusional, idiotic, psychotic, etc, etc, etc. And this is commonly accepted as ok. Not inflammatory, not trollish, not out of line. When people of a religious bent make the mistake of choosing poorly and stooping to the same level of insulting insinuation, you’d think it’s the end of the world and they are the most horrible people on earth for daring to claim thinking, reasoning people can’t make their own choices. Wait …

Because Mormons like to have sex with twelve-year-old girls in giant complexes in the desert near the Arizona - Utah Border.

--- get your facts straight, these people are not Mormons, and that sort of thing going on is utterly reprehensible.

Crosses on or in the churches? Uh, no. We don’t worship that symbol like other Christian faiths do, and they are not displayed on or in our churches. So I question your veracity there, Ceannairceach.

If you want a website where everything is laid out, try here. Not Wikipedia where anyone and everyone can tweak with things, and ‘truth’ is relative.

Anyways, quick bits after looking through this. And I’m not going to stick around and argue ad nauseum the way these things tend to go, because when it comes down to it, people will believe what they want to believe, it’s always easier to attack what you either don’t understand, like, or care to be tolerant of, and these ‘discussions’ always wind down into nastiness and circular rawring over two or three points that have little to do with the overall picture of things. Going on 8 years on this site, and it is always the same in the end, and it has all been done, to death.

Take it for what you will. Bottom line is, hate gets us nowhere. Hate is not something we as Mormons are supposed to be encouraging or engaging in, whatever folks may or may not have against us. Something about God being able to forgive who he will, but we’re supposed to forgive everyone. So I suppose I’ll start with having given answer, and letting the rest of it go. Because just like hate, contention isn’t going to do us any good either.

*slow clap*

[Dazchan]

I can't stand them because they financed the Prop 8 campaign.

This. Which is a shame, because any religion featuring magical underwear usually gets my respect.

[Bottle]

Big Love is a tv show which is not to be confused with reality. It's in it for the ratings, not for showing folks 'how it is'.

For anybody who is interested, there's an excellent blog that has been doing recap/reviews of Big Love for quite some time. The blog author is a former Mormon who offers a different perspective than DLNs. She feels that Big Love does capture a lot of accurate elements about Mormonism, as well as capturing a lot of accurate elements of fundamentalist LDS, although she notes many places where the show stumbles.

Here's a link to her Big Love posts:
http://stoney321.livejournal.com/tag/big%20love

[F1-Insanity]

The US government was racist and supported segregation and all that. But when a religion makes the correct choice to get with the program and be the inclusive accepting group they’re supposed to be, it’s a ‘racket’? *grins* That’s ok. We won’t get into how accepted social norms have always had a hand in how groups, religious or otherwise, have made choices.

The point was that the mormon church had a 'magic revelation' just in time for the Civil Rights Bill, not because the church itself thought it was a good idea to do so. Had nothing to do with 'getting with the program', more about fear of the consequences. And besides, bans on black 'clerics' remained until at least 1979.

I do find it interesting that people are free to go around saying that anyone who believes in religion is stupid, delusional, idiotic, psychotic, etc, etc, etc. And this is commonly accepted as ok. Not inflammatory, not trollish, not out of line. When people of a religious bent make the mistake of choosing poorly and stooping to the same level of insulting insinuation, you’d think it’s the end of the world and they are the most horrible people on earth for daring to claim thinking, reasoning people can’t make their own choices. Wait …

Centuries of persecution, murder, slavery, expulsion, genocide, mysogyny etc... all pretty much done in the name of religion has had an effect on people. Unfortunately, to this day in many areas of the world, take for example Pakistan's Western Frontier provinces or many areas in Africa, this sort of thing continues to this very day.

But what do you think which label should be given to people who believe in something that is patently false and for which never any serious attempt has been made at providing even the smallest itsybit of evidence? And of course the 'holy' books that are full of inconsistencies, calls to murder/subjugation and of course the supremacist attitude of abrahamic monotheist religion? As in 'you are going to be tortured in hell for all eternity if you do not share our beliefs' and that sort of thing? And lets not forget the tons of nonsensical claims made by the various branches of religion?

I don't take people seriously who profess 24/7 that they think the easter bunny is real, so why should it be different for this 'god' who is equally not real?

[Risottia]

...mostly because they stop me in the street and try to convert me. But I wouldn't say that I hate them. I'm annoyed by them.

which means you also are annoyed by Greenpeace, Jehovah's witnesses, WWF, Hare Krishna's, phone companies.... anyone who tries to spread a message.

Yes. I'm EXTREMELY annoyed by those who try to spread their message in such an aggressive way. Want to hand me a leaflet? That's ok, but don't insist if I say "no thanks" and don't try to stop me by placing yourself in front of me or, even worse, by touching me and spouting propaganda.
I must say that the Hare Krishna, or the WWF, never tried to stop me in the street. But I'm extremely annoyed by Greenpeace activists trying to get me to give them money - and same goes for the JW. As for the phone companies, they aren't allowed to phone me anymore (thanks to the privacy and tlc authorities), but I used to be annoyed when they did (and they did quite often).