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Postby The Corparation » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:39 pm

Deep Fried Salmon wrote:Atheist here.
Because they're annoying as hell, on all levels.

Examples based on people I've met:

Christians in general: Yeah I went to church this weekend, it was meh, but there was this new chick there, and man, she was so fine. But anyways, let's hurry up and smoke this dub.

Mormons: I went to the temple and it was the greatest experience of the week and my life and I felt the holy lords spirit flowing through me and hey you should come to the temple with me cause we teach good values and stuff and I used to masturbate to that's so raven but through the spirit of the lord I've stopped my urges and you should come to the temple with me and black people are the descendants of people who sided with Satan and Indians are descended from the people that killed the Israelites that came to America and blah blah gold plates blah blah blah blah polygamy blah blah blah blargity blah.

First example: Who the hell goes to mass to pick up chicks? Church events maybe but not the regular weekly mass.
Second example: WTF. I can guarantee that guy is not the typical Mormon.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:41 pm

Having been a Mormon for about a year or two, I can answer this rather simply:

Because they are fucking annoying! At least my other religions gave me wine and bread, and had some neat decorations.

Allow me to describe a Mormon church. You walk in to a rather bland building, perhaps with a nice steeple atop and a cross on the outside. As you look around, you await the pleasant aroma of wine, or perfumes of the other attendees. But there is nothing. Not coffee or wine. Not cookies for the kiddies. Nothing. The glass is plane, with no decoration or ornaments. Barely any crosses dotted the building. The pews were rock hard. They served water and stale bread. The priest looked like Mr. Rogers.

Finally you go home. You settle into your couch, and turn on the... Oh, the door! Who is it? Well, your friendly neighborhood Mormon missionaries of course! They teach you about Jesus, "complain" about there horrible living conditions, are polite, eat your food, and leave. This happens about twice a weak.

Some time later, its time to get baptized! You expect the usual water-on-head, but noooo. They sit you, fully clothed, in a pool with a glass window so everyone can see you. With barely any warning they throw you back and submerge you in the water, baptizing you.

Maybe this was only my experience. But I hated it. Mormons are lovely, but I have a good dislike for Mormonism.

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Postby Mediterreania » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:45 pm

Now I feel guilty about trolling the Mormon.org chat.

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Postby The Corparation » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:50 pm

Mediterreania wrote:Now I feel guilty about trolling the Mormon.org chat.

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Magic. How is that trolling? :)
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Postby Deep Fried Salmon » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:57 pm

The Corparation wrote:First example: Who the hell goes to mass to pick up chicks? Church events maybe but not the regular weekly mass.
Second example: WTF. I can guarantee that guy is not the typical Mormon.


No one, but is it wrong to notice an attractive women?
oh well.

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Postby Coccygia » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:02 pm

Deep Fried Salmon wrote:
The Corparation wrote:First example: Who the hell goes to mass to pick up chicks? Church events maybe but not the regular weekly mass.

No one, but is it wrong to notice an attractive women?

YES, IT IS! IMPURE THOUGHTS ARE A MORTAL SIN! YOU WILL BURN IN HELL FIRE! REPENT SINNER! REPENT!
Or at least that's what the nuns told us. :meh:
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Postby Mgalekgolo » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:03 pm

Better question, why do they hate everyone?

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Postby Gauthier » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:05 pm

Mgalekgolo wrote:Better question, why do they hate everyone?

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Because they're Godly? After all, the Phelpses keep telling us God Hates Everything. :D
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:05 pm

Deep Fried Salmon wrote:
The Corparation wrote:First example: Who the hell goes to mass to pick up chicks? Church events maybe but not the regular weekly mass.
Second example: WTF. I can guarantee that guy is not the typical Mormon.


No one, but is it wrong to notice an attractive women?
oh well.

No, I'm just saying its a bit wierd that someone would go to church and then talk about a hot girl he'd seen there.
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Postby Deep Fried Salmon » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:06 pm

Coccygia wrote:
Deep Fried Salmon wrote:No one, but is it wrong to notice an attractive women?

YES, IT IS! IMPURE THOUGHTS ARE A MORTAL SIN! YOU WILL BURN IN HELL FIRE! REPENT SINNER! REPENT!
Or at least that's what the nuns told us. :meh:

ruh roh :(

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Postby Conchobar Macnessa » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:06 pm

Mgalekgolo wrote:Better question, why do they hate everyone?

/thread


BECAUSE EVERYONE TROLLS OUR F*ING CHAT ROOMS
hahahahahah :rofl:
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Postby Conchobar Macnessa » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:07 pm

Deep Fried Salmon wrote:
Coccygia wrote:YES, IT IS! IMPURE THOUGHTS ARE A MORTAL SIN! YOU WILL BURN IN HELL FIRE! REPENT SINNER! REPENT!
Or at least that's what the nuns told us. :meh:

ruh roh :(


I'm with you mate. Ima go to hell now :(
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Postby Deep Fried Salmon » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:08 pm

The Corparation wrote:
Deep Fried Salmon wrote:
No one, but is it wrong to notice an attractive women?
oh well.

No, I'm just saying its a bit wierd that someone would go to church and then talk about a hot girl he'd seen there.

Yes, I do believe some people would find that quite odd indeed.

Edit: well to be fair though, I have met some Mormons that I liked.
They where pretty legit people.
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Postby Isworld » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:10 pm

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Lackadaisical2 wrote:Because they're heathens subverting the word of God. I guess.

I hate them because they don't drink. Maybe I should love them instead...


Hey, it means more booze for you. You don't have to share! :)

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Postby GOLTZBORG » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:10 pm

I have neighbors who are Mormons, and they are as friendly and neighborly as any of my other
neighbors; in fact, if they hadn't told me that they were of the Mormon faith, I would never be
able to tell, since they look and act just like all of the other average people in my community.
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Postby Mgalekgolo » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:20 pm

Oh yeah, I also once had a Mormon friend, I ditched him after firstly, he BLATENTLY insulted our mutual friend (his mom's a lesbian) and told him flattly that she was going to hell, like he knew it. I severed it there, and about a month later, I spotted him hanging out with the "cool" kids (bunch of fucktard creationists) wearing a hoody and backwards hat. He got converted to douchebagism.

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Postby Coccygia » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:22 pm

I don't actually know any Mormons, and AFAIK I have never met one...but there's something a bit Stepford Wivey about them. They seem too damn clean.
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Postby Conchobar Macnessa » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:28 pm

Mgalekgolo wrote:Oh yeah, I also once had a Mormon friend, I ditched him after firstly, he BLATENTLY insulted our mutual friend (his mom's a lesbian) and told him flattly that she was going to hell, like he knew it. I severed it there, and about a month later, I spotted him hanging out with the "cool" kids (bunch of fucktard creationists) wearing a hoody and backwards hat. He got converted to douchebagism.


Pisses me off when my comrades do that garbage
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Postby Augarundus » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:30 pm

'Cause they're dirty Satan worshippers, like Catholics, Jews, non-Protestants, and anyone living east of Greenwich.

If you don't know, I'm trololo'ing. I have Semitic heritage, was born Catholic.

Can't make an excuse for my blatant anti-Mormon hate mongering. I suppose I've listened to a certain famous Mormon TV commentator (Don't feed the trololo)... my hatred of Mitt Romney, however, shows my disgusting, amoral prejudice for what it is, I suppose.
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Postby Coccygia » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:16 pm

Augarundus wrote:... my hatred of Mitt Romney, however, shows my disgusting, amoral prejudice for what it is, I suppose.

An entirely reasonable reaction to a Republican creep? :roll:
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:37 pm

Ok. Mormons do not hate gays. Individuals may very well, but that is not or should not be representative of the church as a whole. I’ve never heard that taught or supported. Plenty of Christian sects don’t believe that the gay lifestyle/choice/tendency/preference is a ‘moral’ path, this isn’t anything out of the ordinary that way. Which doesn’t mean I’ve always agreed with some of the choices made that way.

I don’t find our religion sexist either – and I’m both a woman, and a rather independent one at that who isn’t easily lead around by the nose.

No one has been posthumously converting Jewish victims of the holocaust either (or anyone else), in spite of claims to the contrary. Baptisms for the dead are not an ‘automatic conversion’, it is a service offered to those who didn’t have a chance to make the choice in this life. Whether or not they accept the work done for them on the other side is anyone’s guess – it’s our belief they have that choice. Yes, we believe in an afterlife. No, you don't have to agree with it. Either way, no harm done - we don't have the ability to 'force' belief or membership on anyone. The rites are offered by proxy in accordance with our belief that everyone should have the opportunity to choose. It's as simple as that.

We don’t hate other religions for what they do or don’t think of us – at least we sure aren’t supposed to. We're supposed to be accepting of folks, we're supposed to love our neighbors (platonically you sickos), not berate, condemn, hate, or otherwise be asses to folks who don't believe the same way we do.

We don’t preach ‘get me converts, or else’. When you have a good thing, it’s natural enough to want to share it with others who might benefit from it. Freedom of choice – you certainly don’t have to listen.

Being Christian is a matter of having a belief in Christ as savior, which we have and maintain – so like it or not, Mormons are not ‘pretenders’ in that regard. As others have pointed out, we believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost - same as a number of other Christian sects.

Claiming that the Mormon church is ‘just as bad as Scientology’ is both irresponsible and baseless.

I have absolutely –no- idea what you’re on about with the fundie polygamist groups ‘falling under the Mormon umbrella’ – because they are not a part of our religion, and we do not condone them, or claim them.

Nor do I get this ‘weird combines’ and the ‘Starlight and Moonbeam’ names claim. Never heard of anything like that, no idea what you’re on about with it.

Big Love is a tv show which is not to be confused with reality. It's in it for the ratings, not for showing folks 'how it is'.

No one ‘makes’ missionaries go out – it’s supposed to be a choice, even if it’s encouraged as a service to God. My husband didn't go on one. He's not ostracized or otherwise shunned on account.

We do not discourage equality in any way I’ve ever been taught. Quite the opposite.

Invading the government? So … one can’t be involved in government if one has a religion now? Really. Having lived in Utah as well, I can guarantee you the Mormon church does not run everything. There are loads of non-Mormons who are very vocal and active in politics, and if things were run as a one-religion theocracy, there would be hell to pay.

We don’t use little kids to spread religion. 18 or older for missionaries. Sorry to burst the illusion.

I now live out in the Midwest, and I’ve found store hours in many cases to be more restrictive here than they were in Utah. Go fig.

I don’t believe you’re kicked out of the church just for being gay, no. It takes a lot to be excommunicated.

If we were ‘banned’ or made to leave over using our freedom of choice (something that is huge in our religion) music, I’d have been kicked out years ago. Same with the restrictions on things like alcohol, smoking, the caffeine thing, what have you. Again ... these are guidelines set down to follow for a healthier happier life. No one forces you to stick to them strictly.

I can’t speak for the claims of suicide, because I’m not familiar with all the particulars. Good morals are strongly encouraged – which basically means no messing around with sex and the like regardless of gender or preferences. I can see how kids, who already are under a lot of pressure, could end up feeling pretty alone on account. Then again, there’s kids all the time, like it or not, who end up committing suicide over various factors. It’s a rough time, and without the right support … it’s a sad thing regardless of the causes.

I don’t get the ‘abusive’ claims either. No one forces me to go, forces me to agree with everything, forces me into any particular role, gender or otherwise, or forces me into anything I don’t want to do in fact. So claiming my religion is a threat to your human rights, given it can’t force you into anything any more than it can force me, as a member, leaves me a bit perplexed as to your reasoning. While individuals in any organization can be capable of a number of terrible things - the sex scandals, abuse, etc, they are in no way indicative of what the religion as a whole supports or believes. These sorts of things are disgusting, and a breach of trust that should never be tolerated. Regardless of who's responsible.

And … wait, what on the polygamy on the other side? Polygamy is hell not a central key element of mainstream Mormon theology, and I have no idea what you’ve been smoking to believe that. As people so often say on NSG - source? Preferably an official one, not one of these anti-Mormon sites that are clearly biased, nor Wikipedia which is ... well, not reliable.

Old west and killing folk? Would that be after the extermination order was laid out against them here in the Midwest and they were forced to flee and protect themselves? Not that all actions historically can be supported that way, I realize. People are people, and sometimes people suck - Mormon or otherwise.

The US government was racist and supported segregation and all that. But when a religion makes the correct choice to get with the program and be the inclusive accepting group they’re supposed to be, it’s a ‘racket’? *grins* That’s ok. We won’t get into how accepted social norms have always had a hand in how groups, religious or otherwise, have made choices.

I do find it interesting that people are free to go around saying that anyone who believes in religion is stupid, delusional, idiotic, psychotic, etc, etc, etc. And this is commonly accepted as ok. Not inflammatory, not trollish, not out of line. When people of a religious bent make the mistake of choosing poorly and stooping to the same level of insulting insinuation, you’d think it’s the end of the world and they are the most horrible people on earth for daring to claim thinking, reasoning people can’t make their own choices. Wait …

Because Mormons like to have sex with twelve-year-old girls in giant complexes in the desert near the Arizona - Utah Border.
--- get your facts straight, these people are not Mormons, and that sort of thing going on is utterly reprehensible.

Crosses on or in the churches? Uh, no. We don’t worship that symbol like other Christian faiths do, and they are not displayed on or in our churches. So I question your veracity there, Ceannairceach.

If you want a website where everything is laid out, try here. Not Wikipedia where anyone and everyone can tweak with things, and ‘truth’ is relative.

Anyways, quick bits after looking through this. And I’m not going to stick around and argue ad nauseum the way these things tend to go, because when it comes down to it, people will believe what they want to believe, it’s always easier to attack what you either don’t understand, like, or care to be tolerant of, and these ‘discussions’ always wind down into nastiness and circular rawring over two or three points that have little to do with the overall picture of things. Going on 8 years on this site, and it is always the same in the end, and it has all been done, to death.

Take it for what you will. Bottom line is, hate gets us nowhere. Hate is not something we as Mormons are supposed to be encouraging or engaging in, whatever folks may or may not have against us. Something about God being able to forgive who he will, but we’re supposed to forgive everyone. So I suppose I’ll start with having given answer, and letting the rest of it go. Because just like hate, contention isn’t going to do us any good either.

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Wow DLN....I was wandering by and got whacked by that paper.....
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:24 pm

Jagalonia wrote:Wow DLN....I was wandering by and got whacked by that paper.....

Unpossible. Mod hat off. I have to put the paper down when I'm just participating. >_>

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Postby Jagalonia » Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:32 pm

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:
Jagalonia wrote:Wow DLN....I was wandering by and got whacked by that paper.....

Unpossible. Mod hat off. I have to put the paper down when I'm just participating. >_>

Well....You hit me with something....lol.
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Postby Zirconim » Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:36 pm

I have a good friend that's a Mormon. Nobody hates him for it. He doesn't hate anyone because of it.
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