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Postby Dakini » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:21 pm

Kiryu-shi wrote:
Dakini wrote:Why do the Mormons hate the gays?


Do gay Mormons hate themselves?

Are gay Mormons allowed to admit that they're gay without being kicked out of the church?

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Postby Underium » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:21 pm

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Underium wrote:They are legally deciding store hours on sundays or making them pay a large fine. And number 1 My eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That's not an endorsement of religion though.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Also, your eyes is not good enough.

Ok ask any true mormon and they will tell you, if you ask them, "Do you convert dead people." They will msot likely say something along the lines of, we babtise them to save their souls from damnation, i dare you!!!

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:21 pm

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So if Jesus talked to himself, he'd be talking to Yahweh? :p


Well, it's part of the Trinity belief system.

God also talks to the numerous co-founders in the Bible.
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Postby Underium » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:21 pm

Dakini wrote:
Kiryu-shi wrote:
Do gay Mormons hate themselves?

Are gay Mormons allowed to admit that they're gay without being kicked out of the church?

No.

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Postby Mosasauria » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:22 pm

Dakini wrote:
Kiryu-shi wrote:
Do gay Mormons hate themselves?

Are gay Mormons allowed to admit that they're gay without being kicked out of the church?

If they treat themselves with anti-homiotic, then act as if they have a disease that God can cure.
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Postby Mosasauria » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:22 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
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Well, it's part of the Trinity belief system.

God also talks to the numerous co-founders in the Bible.

Interesting.
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Postby Wilgrove » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:22 pm

Underium wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
That's not an endorsement of religion though.



Also, your eyes is not good enough.

Ok ask any true mormon and they will tell you, if you ask them, "Do you convert dead people." They will msot likely say something along the lines of, we babtise them to save their souls from damnation, i dare you!!!


It can only be the fastest growing religion if it's among LIVING people, dead people don't fill our census forms.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:22 pm

Dakini wrote:
Kiryu-shi wrote:
Do gay Mormons hate themselves?

Are gay Mormons allowed to admit that they're gay without being kicked out of the church?

Yes. I believe so, anyway.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:23 pm

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>implying that death isn't a problem

Of course it isn't. Death is more of an absence of life. No problem.

That's a problem for me. Means I can't smoke.
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Postby The Corparation » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:23 pm

Dakini wrote:
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Do gay Mormons hate themselves?

Are gay Mormons allowed to admit that they're gay without being kicked out of the church?

No, but a lot of churches are like that so you can't get mad at just them for it.
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:23 pm

Dakini wrote:
Kiryu-shi wrote:
Do gay Mormons hate themselves?

Are gay Mormons allowed to admit that they're gay without being kicked out of the church?

Yes they are. There is an openly Gay member of the Arizona State Congress I believe who is still part of the Church. Can't remember his name for the life of me though.
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Postby Deus in Machina » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:23 pm

I actually spent some time talking to some Mormon missionaries a few years back. I eventually cut them loose because I couldn't stand disappointing the poor dears anymore. They were trying so hard to convert me and I hated to see them wasting their time.

Anyway, it's not that different to any other sect. They're somewhat more insular, even isolationsist, than you'll find in most modern religions. And they're very serious about 'conventional family values'.
There's a juicy undercurrent of sexism running through their dogma and a fairly condescending attitude towards other Christian denominations. On the other hand, every Mormon I've met has been extremely polite and friendly.

It's not the most open-minded or modernistic of religons. I can certainly see people taking issue with some Mormon beliefs (as I do), but I don't think hatred is warranted.

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Postby Wilgrove » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:23 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Harata wrote:
Well, it's part of the Trinity belief system.

God also talks to the numerous co-founders in the Bible.


Well he "inspires" them, however since man did hold the pen during the initial writings and the various translation and editing since the initial writings, some of the inspiration got lost in the editing process.

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Postby Mosasauria » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:24 pm

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Mosasauria wrote:Of course it isn't. Death is more of an absence of life. No problem.

That's a problem for me. Means I can't smoke.

There's fire and a ton of drugs in hell, and being in heaven feels like a constant high.
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Postby Dakini » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:26 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
Dakini wrote:Are gay Mormons allowed to admit that they're gay without being kicked out of the church?

If they treat themselves with anti-homiotic, then act as if they have a disease that God can cure.

And then end up committing suicide because they're told that they're evil and wrong for their entire lives?

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Postby Wilgrove » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:26 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:That's a problem for me. Means I can't smoke.

There's fire and a ton of drugs in hell, and being in heaven feels like a constant high.
Either way, you're made.


Eh from what The Bible describe, if you get into Heaven, then the only thing you're allowed to do is stroke Yahweh's Ego. You basically get to worship him for eternity. I'd rather be in Hell.

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Postby Dakini » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:26 pm

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Dakini wrote:Are gay Mormons allowed to admit that they're gay without being kicked out of the church?

Yes they are. There is an openly Gay member of the Arizona State Congress I believe who is still part of the Church. Can't remember his name for the life of me though.

Let me guess: he's celibate?

Or "celibate".

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Postby Caninope » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:27 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:I know, right?

Nice people, really.


I actually never conversed with a Mormon, but if they're nicer than Southern Baptist, then I may find their company enjoyable.

I like to think I'm a nice Southern Baptist.
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Postby Dakini » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:27 pm

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Dakini wrote:Are gay Mormons allowed to admit that they're gay without being kicked out of the church?

No, but a lot of churches are like that so you can't get mad at just them for it.

Oh, I'm not. Trust me. I get mad at people who are homophobic no matter what their reason. Well, unless it's just plain ignorance, which can be overcome.

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Postby Wilgrove » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:28 pm

Caninope wrote:
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I actually never conversed with a Mormon, but if they're nicer than Southern Baptist, then I may find their company enjoyable.

I like to think I'm a nice Southern Baptist.


There are some nice Southern Baptist, but the majority of ones I've met tends to be annoying and ignorant. It gets kinda old when you live in the Southern Baptist Belt and all you hear from them is how you're going to Hell and how they're better than you because they worship Jesus the right way, or how they worship Jesus and you don't.

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Postby Mosasauria » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:29 pm

Dakini wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:If they treat themselves with anti-homiotic, then act as if they have a disease that God can cure.

And then end up committing suicide because they're told that they're evil and wrong for their entire lives?

:palm:
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:31 pm

Dakini wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:Yes they are. There is an openly Gay member of the Arizona State Congress I believe who is still part of the Church. Can't remember his name for the life of me though.

Let me guess: he's celibate?

Or "celibate".

He is but there is a tide within the Church already to change policy on this. Recently a Church Leader said something that was rather derogatory of homosexuals and it has led to open backlash from Members. I think people assume Mormons are like some kind of hivemind that do not question church stances couldn't be farther from the truth. I would love to see a change of policy but I doubt it will happen even though at this point they are purposefully ignoring scientific evidence that sexuality isn't a choice and are causing themselves a major backlash amongst the membership with their backwards views.
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Postby Dakini » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:32 pm

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Dakini wrote:And then end up committing suicide because they're told that they're evil and wrong for their entire lives?

:palm:
PLEASE tell me you interpreted the sarcasm.

I'm not sure which part was sarcasm there. The earlier linked criticisms of LDS page mentions some cases where gay Mormons commit suicide because of constant homophobia in the church that just kills them inside (so they then complete the job).

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Postby Mosasauria » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:32 pm

Dakini wrote:
Mosasauria wrote: :palm:
PLEASE tell me you interpreted the sarcasm.

I'm not sure which part was sarcasm there. The earlier linked criticisms of LDS page mentions some cases where gay Mormons commit suicide because of constant homophobia in the church that just kills them inside (so they then complete the job).

Th entire thing. It was a mocking of many christian's homophobia.
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