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Neo Rom
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Postby Neo Rom » Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:35 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Norfsex wrote:If Satan, who, as I understand, rules, create, and controls all that is evil and is said to be worshiped by various heathen groups and witches, doesn't that make him, more or less, a god himself?
Merriam-Webster's Definition of god-
"a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship; specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality "


Wow....ok, well I think you should actually learn what Heathens and Witches actually worship rather than what you've learned from your Pastor when he was playing with you in his rectory.

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While I do agree with you that NOT every witch worships Satan, in fact the far majority do NOT... we do have to accept there are those who pracice magic and call themselves witches who do admit they do. Just saying. We can also go out and say, "Well just because they 'say' they're witches and warlocks, doesn't make them such. That has its points... however, that would be like me, as a Catholic saying just because a Baptist claims he's a Christian, doesn't mean he is... because he is not following my particular ideals of faith. The fact is he, like I am, is a Christian.

Also the idea that the other guy above said, about Satan controlling and ruling evil is also in err, as in Christian traditions, he was the first sin, thus the first to give into rebellion and sin. Hench, you could say he is subject to evil... not the other way around. Doesn't make him any less a douche.

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Postby Wilgrove » Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:38 pm

Neo Rom wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
Wow....ok, well I think you should actually learn what Heathens and Witches actually worship rather than what you've learned from your Pastor when he was playing with you in his rectory.

Wicca for Beginners
Paganism: Introduction to Earth Centered Religions

Those are two good books that should get you started. In the future, please educate yourself before you come here and spout off insultingly ignorant ideas.



While I do agree with you that NOT every witch worships Satan, in fact the far majority do NOT... we do have to accept there are those who pracice magic and call themselves witches who do admit they do. Just saying. We can also go out and say, "Well just because they 'say' they're witches and warlocks, doesn't make them such. That has its points... however, that would be like me, as a Catholic saying just because a Baptist claims he's a Christian, doesn't mean he is... because he is not following my particular ideals of faith. The fact is he, like I am, is a Christian.

Also the idea that the other guy above said, about Satan controlling and ruling evil is also in err, as in Christian traditions, he was the first sin, thus the first to give into rebellion and sin. Hench, you could say he is subject to evil... not the other way around. Doesn't make him any less a douche.


No where in Paganism does Satan come up, I'm sorry but Satan is a Abrahamic faith deity, NOT a pagan one. There are dark gods, yes, Hel every gods have their dark side. However, that doesn't make them Satan. To say otherwise is exposing your ignorance of the subject.

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The Murtunian Tribes
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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:04 am

Wiccans are silly anyway.

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Pracab
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Postby Pracab » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:15 am

Satan is Gods Representative on Earth.
After a man like Jesus, who always talked about himself as "Son of Man" is worshipped as a God, it would be only fair to worship Satan as well!
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GothicLust
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Postby GothicLust » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:16 am

The God of the Bible does not claim to be the only one. He wants to be the best.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=NIV

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Postby Pracab » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:19 am

GothicLust wrote:The God of the Bible does not claim to be the only one. He wants to be the best.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=NIV


Wrong. On several occasions He says, that all other gods are of wood and stone, but He is the real and only God.

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Postby GothicLust » Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:05 am

Pracab wrote:
GothicLust wrote:The God of the Bible does not claim to be the only one. He wants to be the best.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=NIV


Wrong. On several occasions He says, that all other gods are of wood and stone, but He is the real and only God.

A god of stone is still a god.

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Postby Izandai » Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:10 am

Hagstromia wrote:If satan was enemies with God, wouldn't he want to spite him by instead of punishing people in hell, he makes it better then heaven? I mean if god wants them to be punished, Satan would want opposite in theory, right?

BTW I don't believe in any of this shit

That's the problem with religion. It's all very holy. *bu-dum-tish*
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The Murtunian Tribes
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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:10 am

GothicLust wrote:
Pracab wrote:
Wrong. On several occasions He says, that all other gods are of wood and stone, but He is the real and only God.

A god of stone is still a god.


Uhhh...no, its a rock.

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Postby GothicLust » Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:33 am

The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
GothicLust wrote:A god of stone is still a god.


Uhhh...no, its a rock.

It's a rock to you. It's a god to someone else. One man's rock is another man's treasure.

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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:37 am

The point being that it, at least in the Judeo-Christian sense, does not qualify as a real god. The whole made of wood and stone bit was dramatic effect. Operative clause in that sentence being "but He is the real and only God"

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