Constantinople or Istanbul what do you call it?

[Baltenstein]

And even if nationalism is one of the reasons behind linguistic conservatism in nomenclature - something which is hardly unique to Greeks (Turks, after all, still refer to the Crimean city of Simferopol by its Tartar and Ottoman name Akmescit) - that's still not ignorance per se; and nor, as I keep pointing out, is it in any way linguistically unprecedented.

I just remembered: The Turks also call Greece "Yunanistan", a term that was never used by the Greeks themselves as a name for their country at any time.

[Nobel Hobos]

Out of religion and its rejects is born ... chess club in the science labs.

Crap what does that say about me? Being in both the religion classes and playing chess at school either I was the weird kid or had the best of both worlds.

Best of both worlds.

There wasn't a chess club in my school before that. Not one of us was fanatical enough about chess to start a club for lunchtime, we just needed something to do in the non-religion class. Some of us got interested enough in the game to give up lunch-time as well.

There really wasn't much support for clubs in my school. You could use a class-room in lunchtime, or for a while after school IF there was a staff member working after hours. But no staff tutor except for sporting clubs (who got staff AND travel funding to go play).

[Sebytania]

And even if nationalism is one of the reasons behind linguistic conservatism in nomenclature - something which is hardly unique to Greeks (Turks, after all, still refer to the Crimean city of Simferopol by its Tartar and Ottoman name Akmescit) - that's still not ignorance per se; and nor, as I keep pointing out, is it in any way linguistically unprecedented.

I just remembered: The Turks also call Greece "Yunanistan", a term that was never used by the Greeks themselves as a name for their country at any time.

And there's plenties of examples for that. Many European languages have separate names for every city and area that matters.

And I don't hear Germans complaining about people calling their country Germany, Allemande, Saksa et cetera et cetera, even though they prefer to use Deutschland themselves.

But that's when using different languages. The English name for Deutschland is Germany, the English name for Lygos/Byzantium/Augusta Antonina/Alma Roma/Konstantinopolis/Konstantiniyye/Stambul/Islambol/et cetera is Istanbul. So, when using English, one should refer to them as such.

Not saying it's a good thing though, I remember attempting to find Böhmen in various English maps, until I realized to check for translations.

[Kazomal]

but nationalism need not necessarily be ultranationalism.

Quite so

[Coccygia]

All I know, I'm not calling Burma Myanmar as long as the junta is in power.

[Baltenstein]

But that's when using different languages. The English name for Deutschland is Germany, the English name for Lygos/Byzantium/Augusta Antonina/Alma Roma/Konstantinopolis/Konstantiniyye/Stambul/Islambol/et cetera is Istanbul. So, when using English, one should refer to them as such.

Indeed. And since the Greek name for Istanbul is Konstantinoupoli, it's only natural that Greeks use that name when refering to the city.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

No, I don't. I find it humourous you have the arrogance to claim that I do, or will.

I belives you are ignorant to call a city or country something besides it's actual name given by its countrymen.

The Turks were calling Constantinople "Istanbul" before 1453.

My claim is just as legitimate as theirs.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Are we still beating this dead horse? Wow NSG, you're... persistent.

[Wamitoria]

Are we still beating this dead horse? Wow NSG, you're... persistent.

Your bistro has reached page 282 pages. Who's persistent now?

[Waldo followers]

Constantinople sounds better
Instanbul sounds like a turkey

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Are we still beating this dead horse? Wow NSG, you're... persistent.

Your bistro has reached page 282 pages. Who's persistent now?

I have no idea what that has to do, if at all, with this topic, but w/e.

[Wamitoria]

Your bistro has reached page 282 pages. Who's persistent now?

I have no idea what that has to do, if at all, with this topic, but w/e.

[Harata]

I say Constantinople.

[Katganistan]

Istanbul.

[Christantle]

Istanbul.

Why Istantbul?

[Rokartian States]

Istanbul.

Why Istantbul?

Why Mexico? Why America? Why Russia?

[Christantle]

Why Istantbul?

Why Mexico? Why America? Why Russia?

Chill man, chill. Those are countries, not cities

[Wamitoria]

Why Mexico? Why America? Why Russia?

Chill man, chill. Those are countries, not cities

Why New York, and not New Amsterdam?

[Christantle]

Chill man, chill. Those are countries, not cities

Why New York, and not New Amsterdam?

Americans and Brits have that weird thing to name everything to fit "their" needs

[The Corparation]

Chill man, chill. Those are countries, not cities

Why New York, and not New Amsterdam?

Why they changed I can't say
People just liked it better that way...

[Rokartian States]

Why Mexico? Why America? Why Russia?

Chill man, chill.

I am chill.

Those are countries, not cities

How does that change anything?

[Christantle]

Chill man, chill.

I am chill.

Those are countries, not cities

How does that change anything?

We are talking about a country with a CITY.

[Rokartian States]

I am chill.



How does that change anything?

We are talking about a country with a CITY.

I don't see why that matters. The same concept applies.

[New Korongo]

I say Constantinople because for some reason it seems easier to say to me

[North Suran]

I say Constantinople because for some reason it seems easier to say to me

Istanbul is six letters and two syllables shorter. Not to mention being actually correct.