Constantinople or Istanbul what do you call it?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

It's Istanbul, everyone's moved on.

*looks at poll*

Except for like 2/3 of NSG…god.

The poll is somewhat flawed in that it doesn't mention context. If I'm writing for an examination or paper, I'll use what is period appropriate. If I'm talking about the modern city, I'll use Istanbul. While the OP does say "in modern times" he doesn't specify what context, which makes all the difference.

Of course it's flawed. Have you read the OP's answers in this thread?

[Zhenghou]

The poll is somewhat flawed in that it doesn't mention context. If I'm writing for an examination or paper, I'll use what is period appropriate. If I'm talking about the modern city, I'll use Istanbul. While the OP does say "in modern times" he doesn't specify what context, which makes all the difference.

Of course it's flawed. Have you read the OP's answers in this thread?

But it is Constantinople, here is proof: http://www.sephardicstudies.org/istanbul.html

[Lenyo]

How dare the Turks rename Constantinople!

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Of course it's flawed. Have you read the OP's answers in this thread?

But it is Constantinople, here is proof: http://www.sephardicstudies.org/istanbul.html

For the last time, it is not Constantinople. It is Istanbul.

[Dacius]

I'm not excusing this kind of behavior, if that's what you think. But it is understandable that they wish to do this. It doesn't make it right.

Well, the Turks were just some nomads who got lucky with a succession of good leaders

Er... your point?

On topic- I call it Isanbul. I don't see why anyone would call it anything else when referring to the modern turkish city.

[Zhenghou]

Well, the Turks were just some nomads who got lucky with a succession of good leaders

Er... your point?

On topic- I call it Isanbul. I don't see why anyone would call it anything else when referring to the modern turkish city.

well, who founded it?

[Oterro]

How dare the Turks rename Constantinople!

Oh dear...

I hate to be the one to tell you this, friend but...

Roma cecidit!

I know, I know. I'll give you a moment to come to terms.

Er... your point?

On topic- I call it Isanbul. I don't see why anyone would call it anything else when referring to the modern turkish city.

well, who founded it?

Thracians according to R:TW.

[Rokartian States]

Er... your point?

On topic- I call it Isanbul. I don't see why anyone would call it anything else when referring to the modern turkish city.

well, who founded it?

Who controls it now?

[The Deleted Chris]

Er... your point?

On topic- I call it Isanbul. I don't see why anyone would call it anything else when referring to the modern turkish city.

well, who founded it?

Some Greeks in the first millenium B.C.?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

well, who founded it?

Who controls it now?

He's going to tell you that the infidels do. That's his answer, all the time.

[Zhenghou]

well, who founded it?

Some Greeks in the first millenium B.C.?

Correct, who expanded the city and made it his capital?

[Oterro]

Some Greeks in the first millenium B.C.?

Correct, who expanded the city and made it his capital?

A Roman called Constantine.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Some Greeks in the first millenium B.C.?

Correct, who expanded the city and made it his capital?

And who controls it now?

[Oterro]

Correct, who expanded the city and made it his capital?

And who controls it now?

Infidels, herr derp derrrr!

[Dacius]

Er... your point?

On topic- I call it Isanbul. I don't see why anyone would call it anything else when referring to the modern turkish city.

well, who founded it?

Seriously? Do you realize how many cities in history were founded by someone and eventually controlled by someone else? That's just how the world works. It's been about five hundred years, move on.

[Serrland]

Er... your point?

On topic- I call it Isanbul. I don't see why anyone would call it anything else when referring to the modern turkish city.

well, who founded it?

That's like saying we should call New York City Nieuw-Amsterdam, because that's what it was called when it was founded.

[The Deleted Chris]

Correct, who expanded the city and made it his capital?

A Roman called Constantine.

Actually, there's reasonable evidence that Constantine's adoption of the city as a permanent residence was a response to its having been Licinius' capital before his 324 defeat.

And it was never his "capital". Constantinople developed the political, institutional, social, economic, and architectural accretions of a pre-eminent imperial residence throughout the fourth and fifth centuries: Constantine left it as a monument to his own glory. Constantius II equipped it with a senate equivalent to that in Rome. Only with Theodosius, Arcadius, Theodosius II and later eastern emperors did the city become a default and fixed imperial residence in the fashion of Rome before the third century crisis. For most of the fourth century, Antioch was a favoured imperial residence, and certainly the more prudent, given the legitimate prioritisation of the Persian frontier as Rome's strategic priority in the east.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

well, who founded it?

Seriously? Do you realize how many cities in history were founded by someone and eventually controlled by someone else? That's just how the world works. It's been about five hundred years, move on.

Thank you for saying that.

[Coccygia]

I respect your point of view, and you make a great arguement, but I am afraid the city's Western name is Constantinople.

Nope. The West recognizes it as Istanbul. I can understand your frustration, Constantinople's been a long time gone after all. Why, I once had a date in Constantinople and missed it because I didn't realize she was waiting in Istanbul! On the plus side, it is a Turkish delight, especially on moonlit nights.
To answer the underlying concern, I don't know why they changed it. Perhaps it's like in the case of New Amsterdam, which has since become Old New York (as people preferred.) But why, specifically, did Constantinople get the works? I suppose that's nobody's business but the Turks.

It's Istanbul, not Constantinople...

[Zhenghou]

Correct, who expanded the city and made it his capital?

A Roman called Constantine.

Correct! so therefore it is constantinople

[Republicke]

Man, this has generated a goodly deal of interest.

Somebody should make a "best Emperor" style thread or something (seeing as you're all so knowledgeable).

[The Deleted Chris]

A Roman called Constantine.

Correct! so therefore it is constantinople

I really would give up now. Friendly warning.

[Rokartian States]

A Roman called Constantine.

Correct! so therefore it is constantinople

Should we also call Mexico New Spain?

[Oterro]

A Roman called Constantine.

Correct! so therefore it is constantinople

Poster above disagrees. He's probably right, he looks like he knows what he's talking about. Definitely moreso than me.

[Call to power]

Why can't we just call it Candy Land so that everyone can win?